Tradeskill?Follow

Im leveling my Rogue past twink level 29. My main is 70 hunter and I have not problem getting money. What Tradeskill will better serve my rogue? Tailoring for armor? or will I engineering be better? Ive seen the slick level 70 engineering eyepiece. Any advice would be great.

Edit: Yeah sorry typed Tailoring but was thinking Leatherworking.

Edited, Aug 20th 2007 12:49:51am by Ragnark

Perhaps I misunderstood but did u say tailoring for armor? If you were gonna do anything for rogue armor it would have to be LW.

The Primalstrike Set looks nice. Of course I guess you can buy it from someone but the extra +40AP(?) is nice.

At least I hope so since I'm LW.

Allow me to copy-paste my reply from another thread:





Enchanting a waste of money you say? It might be the single best profession for a rogue.

Contestants are:


Blacksmithing - The only thing in blacksmithing worth getting for a rogue is the T3 one hand mace Dragonstrike. But there are a few cons:

1) Getting to 375 blacksmithing in the first place is costly as hell.
2) To make the T3 mace you need to make T1 and T2 first which is ALSO very costly.
3) In order to finally get the T3 mace, you NEED a guild that runs either SSC or The Eye and be lucky with Nether Vortex rolls and/or spend dkp on it. Lots of professions needs these vortexes too.

Alternatively, you can buy the vortexes off of the AH if your servers PvE progression is relatively healthy (meaning people farming SSC and eye reguarly). If you got 5000-10.000g to burn, then go for it.

4) The T3 mace is good for PvP, but it's only slightly better than the S2 arena mace anyway (one might argue that S2 is better because of the resilience)
Furthermore, using combat maces in PvE is selling yourself short.

5) The highlight about Dragonstrike was the haste proc. In patch 2.2 (which is supposed to air in 2 days), is nerfing haste rating for rogues.

In conclusion: Dragonstrike is VERY expensive and VERY hard to get, and it "sucks" for PvE. For PvP the S2 mace (which is far easier to get) is just as good anyway.
A giant haste rating nerf is also incoming in the next patch.

Don't pick blacksmithing




Engineering: Good for the Deathblow goggles (which is T5 equilevant in quality) but is only worth taking for this particular item (and then ofc for bombs).

Engineering (a.k.a "Gogglecrafting") is a good proffesion for rogues.




Leatherworking - sucks. Short and to the point. All the BoP epics you can make are easily replaceable as soon as like Karazhan or heroics. Primalstrike vest is the only real highlight, and it kinda sucks compared to some early raiding gear too. Don't pick Leathworking!



Enchanting - Enchanting is a very very nice profession for rogues. It allows us to take advantage of stealth to run the oldworld lvl 60 instances for shards. Some people swear to this as the best consistent moneymaker in the game. Yes, doing shardruns CAN net you around 150-200g pr hour if you know what you are doing.

Furthermore, enchanting allows you to enchant your own rings which as a unique and irreplaceable benefit. It's worth taking enchanting just because of this.

Add to that, enchanters will always have their banks full of highlevel mats from DE'ing questrewards and instance BoP's that no one needed.

I'm a rogue enchanter myself, and I got around 600 arcane dust, 120 greater planar essences and 60 large prismatic shards in the bank - and I didnt even farm for it!

So let's do a quick profession review listing the benefits for rogues:

1) Blacksmithing
- Gives you a nice (but replaceable) PvP mace.

2) Engineering
- Gives you a sweet headpiece only replaceable by T5 and above.
- Also gives you grenades and other useless toys.

3) Leatherworking
- Nothing worth mentioning here. You can make Leg armor and sell them on the AH, and thats the only real benefit.


4) Enchanting
- Gives you the benefit of enchanting your rings with extra stats
- Enables you to do shardruns in the lvl 60 instances for tons of money.
- Gives you "free" enchanting mats


If are poor go: Mining and engineering (self-supplying combo)
If you got a moderate amount of cash: Mining and Enchanting
If you are fairly rich: Engineering and Enchanting (arguably the best combo for rogues)

Now, tell me again; how exactly was enchanting worthless?

Edited, Aug 20th 2007 7:18:22am by Flagermusen

Opinions on alchemy? Anyone? I'm a gatherer, but thinking of picking up a real trade eventually. I'm thinking either engineering or alchemy.

The maces are incredibly easy to upgrade. With me playing very few hours a week right now, I'll be upgrading to Dragonmaw by next week and Dragonstrike a few weeks after that. For those that don't have access to BT/Hyjal drops, Dragonstrike is the best MH outside of Talon/MG Slicer.

And those are only better because of sword spec.

Engineering goggles aren't better than T4 helm, btw. Helm and gloves are the easiest pieces to get, and if you think that 2 piece T4 isn't better than the engineering goggles, you need to get your head checked.

BTW, the ring enchants are not a reason to take enchanting. Trust me, I dropped 360 enchanting with AQ40 recipies (15 Agi to glove, threat cloak, fire gloves, healing gloves, etc) for BS. 6 DPS isn't worth a dead-end profession. Unless you're the guild enchanter who gets ******** of business, the profession really doesn't offer you anything besides DEing BoP gear.

I find it funny that you're trying to say this kind of stuff to someone who's seen more of the game, both pre-BC and post, and who's had both professions to at least 360.

Really, professions don't make a huge difference. If you're interested in taking professions to make your class better and are looking to both do well in arena and PvE, I'd suggest mining/BS maces.

You really need to focus on gear from each individual part of the game (PvE vs PvP) to do well in each--my PvP gear is at 10.4k HP, 183 resilience, 84 hit, and ~1200 AP versus 8k HP, 1500 AP, and 234 hit in my PvE gear--so focusing on getting T4 or T5 then going PvP isn't really going to allow you to do that much better, unlike pre-BC when my T2 gear and CTS/Maladath owned face.

If you don't mind your professions not supporting your character, I'd go with two gathering professions. Herbalism/Mining would be my two choices for the most gold.

I made the mistake of not getting my epic flying when I was close, and instead focused too hard on getting to 375 BS. Epic flying honestly makes farming that much easier if you've got a gathering profession, like my priest alt does (she has epic flying; she was my first 70).

Actually, adding to this, I would never go Alchemy or Enchanting unless I was the guild Alchemist/Enchanter, or unless I was doing it on an alt (like my alt for transmutes: my priest). There's no money in those professions, really, unless you're getting the dropped patterns that scrub alchemists/enchanters won't have, like Mongoose, Sunfire, etc.

Being the guild alchemist will also get you more discorveries if people pot/flask like they should be for raids. Just make sure you go potion spec alchemy.

Take it from someone who was a guild enchanter in a Naxx guild; it's just not any good for you unless your guild is taking care of you for taking one of the ******** professions.

Yeah, I spent about 1500g from 360-375 BS.

That's pretty funny, if you've never seen my old avatar.

I used to have a pretty awesome avatar of House.

Primalstrike is pretty easily replaced. Every epic from Karazhan will be an upgrade over them, which is pretty easy to do casually.

The BS mace is nice if you're not going to be a high end mace spec rogue in arena (i.e. 1900+), since you can get a 91 DPS mace with a haste proc for basically nothing as far as PvP goes. The 2000+ arena points that you'll save are pretty key, thought you'll miss out on some stam/resilience as far as actual stats go, though IMO it's made up for with the haste proc.

It almost looks like they put it back to where it was pre-haste buff, but that might just be me.

I'm not sure why Theo is so adamant that epics from Kara are better than the Primalstrike set.

Chest gives same DPS than the Conniver.
Bracers are considerably better than Maliciousness. God, even Veteran's Bracers are better than Maliciousness.
Waist isn't as good as Treachery, but the 3 piece bonus more than makes up for this.

I actually powerelevelled LW to 375 recently specifically for the Primalstrike set (and to save DKP for better items in Gruul's / SSC / Eye).

Note that the Primalstrike set is BoP, so you have to be abe to craft it yourself. In addition, some of the best items in the game are BoP LW - Belt of Deep Shadow, Swiftstrke Bracers, Swiftstrike Shoulders.....

I would advise a Rogue to go Engineering / LW or Blacksmithing / LW.

Well **** me. I was praying on the slim hope it wouldn't happen. Bleh.