I have already read the FAQ and a previous thread on Drain Tanking. But what I want to know is what level do you start doing this at effectively. And what some key talents are. If you have a build please link. But I'm not asking for one so don't tell me create your own build. I just want to know if it is kind of like Mages AoE grinding. And if it is only effective with the right talents and past a certain level.
Thanks for tips in advance.
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Basicaly you need two things: Drain Life spell (at level 14) and Fel Concentration Rank 5 talent (affliction, need 15 points spent).
So, you will need be at least level 24 to get Fel Concentration rank 5 and start drain tanking effectively (70% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while channeling the Drain Life).
Edited, Feb 13th 2007 8:59am by phabyo
So, you will need be at least level 24 to get Fel Concentration rank 5 and start drain tanking effectively (70% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while channeling the Drain Life).
Edited, Feb 13th 2007 8:59am by phabyo
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thats not effective tho.. thats crap. u r giving crap reply that everyone should know alrdy and should be rated down for wasting ppls time in reading ur mess.
to op, when you get dark pact and can freely get more mana, then your drain tanking becomes easier. if you start off at any lvl using +dmg gear, u will be playing in that style of drain tanking... so dont compare it to how you would play a sta/int lock. i would say get +dmg gear as early as u can to get the feel of how u will need to be playing with less mana and less sta to other builds. if you go sta/int and then switch out at some point late in the 40s to 50s, thats cool too but u might be sitting there thinking bout ur loss of stats.
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thats not effective tho.. thats crap. u r giving crap reply that everyone should know alrdy and should be rated down for wasting ppls time in reading ur mess.
He asked since when he could drain tanking. Everyone knows to be efficient you need lots good equip and higher levels, that's common sense. And at level 24 he'll be able to drain tank mobs of his level, unless he's naked.
rockdisco wrote:
to op, when you get dark pact and can freely get more mana, then your drain tanking becomes easier. if you start off at any lvl using +dmg gear, u will be playing in that style of drain tanking... so dont compare it to how you would play a sta/int lock. i would say get +dmg gear as early as u can to get the feel of how u will need to be playing with less mana and less sta to other builds. if you go sta/int and then switch out at some point late in the 40s to 50s, thats cool too but u might be sitting there thinking bout ur loss of stats.
The implication that you need + damage gear or dark pact to drain tank is a load of tosh. You can start drain tanking very well from level 24 onwards. With improved drain soul and an appropriate macro to ensure you get the KB instead of your pet, it'd Dark Pact which you don't absolutely need for efficiency. Stick to +sta gear first, below level 40ish there's little point in sacrifying stamina for + damage as the bonuses you can get are far from impressive.
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I don't have too much to add to the other comments here that have effectively answered your question... but I'd like to point out this great macro that is perfect for the drain tank build...
It is as follows:
/petattack
/castsequence reset=combat/target Corruption, Curse of Agony, Life Tap, Drain Life, Shoot
Basically... the macro will send in your pet... cast corruption, CoA, LT, DL, and then shoot wand to finish off mob... all utilizing the same button macro
Enjoy Good Luck
--Rxram
It is as follows:
/petattack
/castsequence reset=combat/target Corruption, Curse of Agony, Life Tap, Drain Life, Shoot
Basically... the macro will send in your pet... cast corruption, CoA, LT, DL, and then shoot wand to finish off mob... all utilizing the same button macro
Enjoy Good Luck
--Rxram
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thats not effective tho.. thats crap. u r giving crap reply that everyone should know alrdy and should be rated down for wasting ppls time in reading ur mess.
Oddly, I rated Phabyo up, his statment was correct, not inflamatory, and even when somebody expolded in a flamish format he kept his cool, God job.
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i dont know what the **** im saying. my dog, lil bro, or my moms ate my brain.
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Rxrams wrote:
I don't have too much to add to the other comments here that have effectively answered your question... but I'd like to point out this great macro that is perfect for the drain tank build...
It is as follows:
/petattack
/castsequence reset=combat/target Corruption, Curse of Agony, Life Tap, Drain Life, Shoot
Basically... the macro will send in your pet... cast corruption, CoA, LT, DL, and then shoot wand to finish off mob... all utilizing the same button macro
Enjoy Good Luck
--Rxram
It is as follows:
/petattack
/castsequence reset=combat/target Corruption, Curse of Agony, Life Tap, Drain Life, Shoot
Basically... the macro will send in your pet... cast corruption, CoA, LT, DL, and then shoot wand to finish off mob... all utilizing the same button macro
Enjoy Good Luck
--Rxram
I separated it out into two macros, rather than one:
/Dismount
/Petattack
/Cast Amplify Curse
and
/Dismount
/Castsequence reset=... etc.
The reason for this is that it takes time for the pet to reach the target and gain aggro (unless you really want to get hit!?!), and the first macro allows you to allow for that time. It can also be used to cause your pet to switch targets, while you continue smacking the first one with the second macro.
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I rated Phabyo up too for the same reasons. Good job.
I also rated others up - esp. for the macro advice. Macro advice is always handy - I just can't get my old-school brain around it and need help w/ em. Thx!
I also rated others up - esp. for the macro advice. Macro advice is always handy - I just can't get my old-school brain around it and need help w/ em. Thx!
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to op, when you get dark pact and can freely get more mana, then your drain tanking becomes easier. if you start off at any lvl using +dmg gear, u will be playing in that style of drain tanking... so dont compare it to how you would play a sta/int lock. i would say get +dmg gear as early as u can to get the feel of how u will need to be playing with less mana and less sta to other builds. if you go sta/int and then switch out at some point late in the 40s to 50s, thats cool too but u might be sitting there thinking bout ur loss of stats.
I've been drain tanking since lv 30, im 40 atm and dont need dark pact at all or +dmg gear. I use void, send it, cast corruption and agony, life tap, drain life, life tap, drain life and at this point mob should be already dead, if not i just cast another life tap and end fight with near full hp and mana.
The imp is not needed in drain tanking. In fact, if you have your imp out, you'll be holding all the aggro. Your best bet, if you want to drain tank, is to have your voidwalker out. He needs the aggro since you'll be channeling drain life. Life tap to full mana before you start draining and when the mob dies, you should be back to nearly full health and mana.
The posts above me explained all of this well, I just wanted to reiterate that you don't want your imp out for this.
The posts above me explained all of this well, I just wanted to reiterate that you don't want your imp out for this.
Happycoil, for drain tanking, I think you want anything other than the VW. In drain tanking, you are being the tank. I use the imp and put him on passive for an infinite mana battery with dark pact and end every fight with 100% health and 100% mana (or very close to 100%).
I believe what you mentioned is called drain hunting where you want your pet to tank, IMO just as effective as you end with near full health and mana. Simply different playing styles.
I believe what you mentioned is called drain hunting where you want your pet to tank, IMO just as effective as you end with near full health and mana. Simply different playing styles.
Oops, you're right. Thanks for pointing that out.
just want to say i love the name, HappyCoil Sorry for going ot though.
Edit* wanted to say sorry for going OT
Edited, Feb 15th 2007 9:42pm by InsertRandomName
Edit* wanted to say sorry for going OT
Edited, Feb 15th 2007 9:42pm by InsertRandomName
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Right, if VW is out you are drain hunting, not drain tanking.
Same for Felg.
Happy, believe it or not, you can tank darn well w/ the imp out. Some locks prefer the imp, situationally.
If you really go fast through easy, low yellows and greens, your succy can actually run out of mana faster than you can drain her w/ DP. Oh, the imp use is w/ DP - he is your "mana battery."
The imp seems to rebuild his mana pool faster than any other pet. So, when you have the right gear (sta), and maybe some +dam - and you cut through mobs so fast you don't need a pet doing a little dps - you can actually do well drain tanking w/ the imp - in passive, phase shifted - purely as your mana battery.
If you want a pet to fight w/ you, Succubus or Felh is better.
As to other posters, why do people say they don't need Dark Pact????
I mean, yeah, you don't strictly need DP to grind, but it makes life so much better! It lets you over nuke liberally and end fights even faster - without worry of messing up your "no downtime routine" - because you can just click the mana back as you run up to loot, then run to next fight (i.e. casting nightfall procs, using siphon life every fight, etc.).
DP is really nice! I honestly don't get affliction locks who drain tank and don't get or use DP. It lets you kill much, much faster, and it smoothes out the "rough spots."
Same for Felg.
Happy, believe it or not, you can tank darn well w/ the imp out. Some locks prefer the imp, situationally.
If you really go fast through easy, low yellows and greens, your succy can actually run out of mana faster than you can drain her w/ DP. Oh, the imp use is w/ DP - he is your "mana battery."
The imp seems to rebuild his mana pool faster than any other pet. So, when you have the right gear (sta), and maybe some +dam - and you cut through mobs so fast you don't need a pet doing a little dps - you can actually do well drain tanking w/ the imp - in passive, phase shifted - purely as your mana battery.
If you want a pet to fight w/ you, Succubus or Felh is better.
As to other posters, why do people say they don't need Dark Pact????
I mean, yeah, you don't strictly need DP to grind, but it makes life so much better! It lets you over nuke liberally and end fights even faster - without worry of messing up your "no downtime routine" - because you can just click the mana back as you run up to loot, then run to next fight (i.e. casting nightfall procs, using siphon life every fight, etc.).
DP is really nice! I honestly don't get affliction locks who drain tank and don't get or use DP. It lets you kill much, much faster, and it smoothes out the "rough spots."
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honestly don't get affliction locks who drain tank and don't get or use DP
well they could be SM/Ruin locks, I know i did not get DP untill TBC was releaced and I hit 61(was never so happy to Ding). I found I do not use DP so much in PvE but in PvP or RAIDS ... wow is that a handy spell.
Well, I have to make an input.
I used my Imp strictly as a mana-battery, and yeah, it worked great. and then i swiched to a felhunter, and I only have to say, WOW! what a minion for PVE and draintanking.
It doesn't use any mana for it's battles, so you have a manabattery for your DP, and it does build it's mana quite fast.
And it helps you eat those stupid PVE casters.
so, use your Fel, instead of your Imp or Succy
I used my Imp strictly as a mana-battery, and yeah, it worked great. and then i swiched to a felhunter, and I only have to say, WOW! what a minion for PVE and draintanking.
It doesn't use any mana for it's battles, so you have a manabattery for your DP, and it does build it's mana quite fast.
And it helps you eat those stupid PVE casters.
so, use your Fel, instead of your Imp or Succy
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