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Well I'm not that big on survival..

I go for the classic 0/21/30. Keep in my that I have a PvE build and frame of style.

Your build, my opinion.

Effiency: waste of points, basically just one extra sting; one sting is normally not going to make that much of a difference
Barrage: ya helps Multi-shot but cant use it sometimes in instances, or breaks sheeps/stuns/traps; and honestly how often are you called in for Volley when Mages or Warlocks can AoE?!?!
Your Survival is a good build for PvP or PvE. Might look into Entrapment, Killer Instinct and Lightening Reflexes.

My build.

Marksmanship

Improved Concussion 5/5: comes in handy
Lethal and Mortal Shots 5/5: add to your crit % and dmg
Aimed shot: for dmg
Scatter shot: got for interrupts/stuns when needed

The other four points put on Improved Hunter's mark and/or Hawk Eye, cant remember /shrug. Play around with it.

Survival (this build is to keep ppl away and cause some dmg.)

Monster Slaying 3/3: for dmg when grinding
Humanoid Slaying 2/3: does not effect PvP, just a filler for me
Deflection 5/5: Parry is good.
Entrapment 5/5: helps keep ppl and mobs in range
Trap Efficieny 2/2: I use traps alot, might as well make then more effective (w/ frost in large mob group, e.g Scholo, i can get entrapment to proc maybe 3x on just one frost trap; good for CC)
Deterrence: dont get in much melee but good to have when I do.
Counterattack:[/b] same as deterrence, good CC as well in instance and PvP to get into range; like another scatter shot to some degree
Killer Instinct 3/3: helps with crits
Lightening Reflexes 5/5: mmm, 15% is very nice, adds to dodge, crit % and dmg, and increases DPS
(e.g. if you simply have 400 agi base, 15% is 60, that is basically 2x BSH with +15 agi)

Once again this is all just my opinion and fits my style.

I understand your opinion. I like the Crowd Control that Improved Concussion offers in PvP and running mobs (so that they don't bring back adds). But both are an either/or talent talent. In the some of the endgame stuff your concussion does even matter as well as some stings on certain mobs/bosses.



This is true. Crowd Contol is a big issue. In some higher instance (helping guildies), I dont want to pull sapped/sheeped/freeze trapped mobs. But in endgame instances if you dont have CC do begin with your Multi-shot is pulling mobs is just a small problem. =P My real question is if you are a 0/21/30 how do you add points in Barrage? do you not have Scattershot? or do you mean for a 0/30/21 specc?

As far as my other 4 points in survival, I have to take a look and post later.

for me, this is one of the only discussion columns where people HAVEN'T PRIVILEGED the Beast master path. It's quite easy to imagine what a good build would be though: ignore all the speed and movement rubbish unless you have very speciofic needs, and concentrate on giving your pet better armour, better dps and better crits...by then you'll have enough for the last abilities like the frenzying etc WHICH IS JUST REALLY SWEET (I'm currently rather regretting putting most points in Marksmanship...especially since i think the final ability where your pet doubles in size is just wicked).... i actually think the only reason more people don't put a lot of points here must be ego....because you're upgrading your pet and not yourself, and therefore your hunter may become less important in the equation, but there are definitely some wicked powers here.

All in all, marksmanship may be overrated (except for aimed shot and concussive shot which i consider to be necessities for the hunter)