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#1 Apr 24 2007 at 9:45 AM Rating: Good
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I bought the collector's edition (special edition, whatever) because it's just what I do. Any game I am interested in that has one for launch or expansion, I get it. No reason other than because I can. That said, I was wondering if anyone else has managed to fiddle with the goodies yet. I like some stuff and am kinda (not much because I am so excited about launch) disappointed with others.

    Offcial Game Soundtrack
- CD. This was in the wrong sleeve. No biggie. I thought I was going to be viewing 'The Making of the Game' so there was some minor confusion when I got audio but no video. But after figuring it out and remembering to breath, I was quite relieved to be hearing audio from an audio disk and not seeing video from an audio disk. If that makes any sense. The sound is deliciously clear and the first track I listened to was 'The Shadows of Angmar' and it had that ominous voice over that starts with 'Our worst fears have come to pass ...'. Who is that guy? His voice combined with the music gives me shivers. Then came the beautious music of 'The Hills of the Shire'. /sigh

    The Making of the Game
- DVD. Forty-five minutes later ... I am torn between watching the DVD and waiting for my bf to get home from work to watch it with him. Well, watching one clip won't hurt, right? Right! ... Two hours later ... Some interesting stuff on the development of and vision for the game! I didn't watch it all but the clips I did see were very well done.

    Quick Reference Card
- Typical over-sized post card. Shiny and new. One side has a map of Middle Earth and the other has the default key bindings. But ... meh. I never use these cards after giving them a once over to see what, if anything, I don't already have memorized. It's a nice-to-have rather than a must-have. I display the map side on my cork board.

    Map of Middle Earth
- Wtf? It's paper, small, and featureless except for microscopic print for some place names. My bad. I had visions of a glorious cloth map I could use as a reference or perhaps a tea towel. Something I could display proudly. But no ... this gets immediately stuffed back in the box and stays there. It's useless.

    Game Manual
- Shiny. New. Full-color. Smells delicious. I'll read that from cover to cover. I'm a geek like that. I spend the next few minutes snorting that new manual smell.

    Product & Buddy Key Card
- One side has the keys and instructions for installation. The other side has a pic of a hot (oops! wrong game) orc against a backdrop of a frightening looking fortress. After activating my product key, I'll slap this up on the cork board, too. I notice that the buddy key instructions state I have to lend my disks to my friend. Lame. The vast majority of people I game with don't even live by me. Am I supposed to mail my disks off? I'm hoping they'll change the restrictions on this to allow downloads of the launch client online. Why didn't they just do that in the first place? I haven't really looked into it so maybe they have. Dunno. Will check into it more later.

Installing now ...
#2 Apr 24 2007 at 9:56 AM Rating: Decent
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my soundtrack and DvD was in the wong sleeve to. and the map was just a wast of paper. I thought it be bigger.
#3 Apr 24 2007 at 12:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Putting a data disk in your stereo can fry your speakers, at least that used to be true. I wonder if their mix-up will result in class action hoopla. Or do stereos reject DVD's outright?
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Ok I just opened the box, I feel like I have been cheated. Even more so after talking to Nobby! Smiley: mad

Everything was cheaply done. Disks are in cardboard wrappers. Map << a joke! All it is is the back side of the key map thingy.

I am so tempted to order the EU box just so I can get the goodies!
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#6 Apr 24 2007 at 2:16 PM Rating: Good
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Yea, some of the special edition stuff is less then stellar... The game manual is nice, but it would have been better in hardback like the EU one for the SE/CE. Soundtrack/making of DvDs will be nice, but cardboard sleeves? I knew the map would be a little disappointing when it was said it'd be on parchment, but man this one really could have been better. Well, on the plus side, it does look sort of like something you'd find in the books so hardcore fans will probably be happy Smiley: lol

All in all, it was only 10 bucks more, and most soundtracks would run at least that. But then you get some extra things on top of it. Compared to the EU extras we did get shafted, but it was Midway's choice to make these poor extras. I wouldn't say i'm totally satisfied, but you get what you pay for right? For 10 bucks more it's a bargain heh.
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#7 Apr 24 2007 at 3:02 PM Rating: Good
Production costs on the DVD & CD won't be covered by the 10 increase and everything else is gravy... weak, watery gravy but gravy none the less.

Also, I'm sure the reasoning behind cardboard sleeves on the CD/DVD is cost & shipping weight. You can put it in any kind of plastic box you'd like when you get it home (they're all available on the cheap) but shipping those boxes takes up additional room and costs money.
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#8 Apr 24 2007 at 3:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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My map doesn't look lik something found in a book, it looks like it was last minute, taken from the game and slapped on the back for the keymap card... I am highly disappoined.
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#9 Apr 24 2007 at 8:22 PM Rating: Decent
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I've been burned by so called 'special editions' many times. That being said, the only thing that kept me from buying the special edition was I was a little short on money. I guess a sucker doesn't need to be born every minute with people like me around.
#10 Apr 24 2007 at 9:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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I guess I am just spoiled with CE's b/c of Blizzard. Theirs are awesome!
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#11 Apr 24 2007 at 10:03 PM Rating: Good
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Mistress Darqflame wrote:
I guess I am just spoiled with CE's b/c of Blizzard. Theirs are awesome!


Tell me about it, they did some great stuff. Really, midway should have taken a page from their book and worked with Turbine to provide some nice bonuses like Codemasters did.... even if it cost like 20 bucks more then the normal, people would still buy it.
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#12 Apr 25 2007 at 3:20 AM Rating: Good
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I had visions of a glorious cloth map I could use as a reference or perhaps a tea towel.


I heard that and went..."nice"
#13 Apr 25 2007 at 4:57 AM Rating: Decent
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The map you could get with the purchase of the pre-order was better then the crappy one we got with the special edition. Basically everything that came with it was disappointing to me. With the exception of the soundtrack/dvd. Oh well, I hope they do something better if they release a special edition of the first expansion.

Edited, Apr 25th 2007 9:08am by FaustianIdeals
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#14 Apr 25 2007 at 5:02 AM Rating: Good
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http://community.codemasters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175504

Fun little read (the first post at least)

To sum it up, codemasters screwed up too... of course, their extras were always better from the start, and the screwup with the special edition here started from the beginning when they finalized the extras.
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#15 Apr 25 2007 at 5:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, the map was the biggest disappointment for me.

The in-game item was a letdown too. Adds 1 to hope for 5 minutes, with a 2 HOUR cooldown. <sigh>

The DVD and soundtrack were nice - worth the extra $10 IMHO.
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#16 Apr 25 2007 at 6:41 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, the map was the biggest disappointment for me.

The in-game item was a letdown too. Adds 1 to hope for 5 minutes, with a 2 HOUR cooldown. <sigh>

The DVD and soundtrack were nice - worth the extra $10 IMHO.


Yea, I mean jewelers (I think it is them at least) can make similar items that last for 30 minutes iirc. Consumable but easy to make from what I understand. It would have been a lot better if it was just like a pocket item that was always active.

On a slightly different note...

From a post on the o-forums

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Ya its not paper towl, its like vynal but its disapointing its so small and flimsy. That isnt what upsets me most however.

Ok, I pre-order 1 month before pre order beta starts. They announce special edition, I run to gamestop, change my pre order, pay more.

I get a cruddy little item that you can use 1 time every 2 hours that gives me like 7 more hp for 5 minutes....

Now, im like well oh well i got it, then a guy in the kinship goes ohhh my JUNE edition of pc gammer is here....he gets a cloak thats meh not that great but probably looks better than the pre order one...and A POCKET ITEM THAT HAS 1.5 MORALE REGEN IN COMBAT.

OH im not happy about that.
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#17 Apr 25 2007 at 7:06 AM Rating: Decent
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There is a free cloak in the June edition of PC Gamer? :D
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Actually it's 15 minutes, but still, yeah. Also, we can make them at freaking apprentice level with a few ingredients that aren't hard to find. PLUS, the item works on the whole party, not just yourself (not sure if the trinket does that).

Sounds like Turbine really dropped the ball on the CE extras. Sorry guys


The crit version lasts 30 minutes and is very easy to make.
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#20 Apr 25 2007 at 9:46 AM Rating: Decent
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The in-game item was a letdown too. Adds 1 to hope for 5 minutes, with a 2 HOUR cooldown.


Wow, and I always thought we europeans were the ones that get shafted on special/collector editions. Our in-game item is a cloak pretty much identical to the one you got in the pre-order packs just in a golden yellow colour.

We also got:

Making of DVD
Hard-back version of the manual (looks like a copy of the books)
Figure of the Witch-king
Map of Angmar (pretty useless really)

Edited, Apr 25th 2007 1:51pm by RogalDorn
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#22 Apr 25 2007 at 11:10 AM Rating: Good
For just a moment can we take a look at what we're getting disappointed about here?

For myself, even when buying a special or collector's edition (which I often do), I ultimately place very little value in the extras. Primarily, I look at it as paying more for the same steak with a little extra sizzle.

Lets examine each of the items;

Game manual - no matter how nice it is, I'm only gonna need it till I learn the game mechanics then it goes back in the box and up on the shelf, never to be seen or perused again. Would I keep it out and display it if it were a "nicer" version (read this as hard bound). No!

DVD/CD - The making of DVD has a wow factor of about 4.5 for me. I'll watch it once and maybe show it to my brother or a friend if I think it will help get them hooked into the game. The CD has a bit more value to me since I really like the game music and will probably burn a copy for the car as well as ripping it to MP3s to listen to at work.

Game map - I have no available real estate on my computer desk for this or any game map. In addition, I have no available wall space for this or any game map (framed or not). I have lived in my current home for many years and the available wall space (including the bathroom walls) is already covered in framed prints, theatrical one sheets and various objects de' art. Would I ever hang the ME map cloth or parchment, large or small... No!

In game items - While useful at first, no item is forever and so this stuff is of limited usefulness at best.

In box trinkets - I have tons of trinkets and gee-gaws acquired in the purchase of other games and expansions. These include a handful of keychains from EQ1 boxes. dozens of paper and cloth maps, several DVDs & soundtrack CDs, an interesting miniature figure or two, several desktop items like paperweights and even 2 or 3 numbered "gold" coins from EQ2 LE packages.

None of these things are particularly memorable or valuable. They're just swag! Freebies included in the package to sweeten the deal. Even something "useful" like a coffee mug or a pad of post-it notes would have limited value to me because I already have plenty of that stuff.

Bottom line (for me anyway) is, don't place too much stock in what you're getting as bonus material... good, bad or indifferent, look it over, put it back in the box and move on! There is a whole world out there for us to discover and it will take that much longer if we all focus on the map and the manual!

just my 2 cents...
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