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#1 Jun 02 2006 at 5:38 PM Rating: Decent
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ive never really tried to build a dueler before but i have a 47 ogre war and would like to give it a try i have around 5/580cms what should i put tp's and cm's into anyhelp appreciated tnxs
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#2 Jun 02 2006 at 9:49 PM Rating: Decent
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I am no tank expert but here is my two cents based on observations and friends who have high lvl tanks, plus what I use. First off, wars are the worst duelers (inserted here to make every war on site say they are not lol). Shadowknights are great for damage with higher hp than most other toons. Pally's have high hp and decent damage but they also have Lay Hands which is your full HP heal (some duels allow self heals while others do not). First decide on what rules are most used on your server. Next Agi, sta, and str are gonna be your main stats for CM's and TP's. Str for damage, agi for damage taking ability, and sta for HP, also boosting sta and str will increase your power reserves for casting you abilities because they are your main (blinking) stats.

One warning though in doing this: Dueling tanks unless already 60 make horrible xp tanks. A tank is made to get beat on and let the dd's do the damage. If you waste tp on str for damage your gonna end up with alot less HP and taking more damage than a standard tank would. Most groups get mad at tanks with this dueling set up because you usually end playing pass the agro.

Best advice I can give is to either start a different tank and lvl him as a regular build till 60 then rehab him to a dueler or finish lvling your current war and rehab to a dueler at 60. That's all my best advice so hopefully between this and some people who currently have dueling tanks will post and you can determine what seems the best. Most likely you will get 50 different contradictory answers and end up having to duel a few posters or watch them duel to see who's build is best. Good luck!
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#3 Jun 04 2006 at 5:57 PM Rating: Decent
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str/sta/dex/agi

dueling tanks are not horrible xp tanks as the poster above stated... in fact they are way better than defenders/guardians/death knights in grinds. with more off mods and higher dex you can hit harder, thus making the mob die faster and generating a small amount of agro.

also many dueling tanks completely max str/sta, where as most MT's neglect str. str is a modifier in taunts and will help overall so that everyone else can do their job. i.e. dds doing more dmg, healers healing more
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#4 Jun 04 2006 at 7:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Tank duelers are easy,

1). get a **** load of CMS

2). max str out as much as you can, then get sta up at a decent amount, then mix dex and agi in there as well, DO NOT worry about wis if you plain on being a dueler and regular grind tank,it will be a waste of Tps, by resist/wis in your CMS.

3). forms...if you dont have one, go either WW BW GW,
LW isnt really a needed duleing form its good in groups if you want, it has HP, agi so its decent but not the best.

4). tags... DO NOT go defender lol, what race are you? depending on what you are most racial tags are bad *** for duelers, like me im a barb so i went berserker, i do bad *** dmg in duels(lose some) and im a god in a regular grind. but most duelers are Heros.


alright i think i got everything right? i have no clue lol, and wars arent bad duelers its just their duels last to damn long lol i love it when my wizzys duels im done within 30sec, warrs and pallys are to damn slow in duels lol.

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#5 Jun 06 2006 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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if you already maxed your str why would you get a form that adds str? besides, wars get a big str buff(33) that adds around 80str. i would go lion or rat maybe even WH since most duelers have max or near max str and sta. not many HwH wars on ppo so i dont know much about them but i hear they are good since they arent resisted but low int hurts their VS
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#6 Jun 06 2006 at 2:36 PM Rating: Decent
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not many HwH wars on ppo so i dont know much about them but i hear they are good since they arent resisted but low int hurts their VS


Yes, thats very true if your considering going hwh instead of a were id suggest putting points into int. While this is not much of a big deal with sks (since must do for procs), it can be a big problem for pallys and warriors who usually add to cha and wis. Altho their are many good hwh pallys on DH server. It really comes down to cms, gear and skill with your toon.
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#7 Jun 06 2006 at 3:27 PM Rating: Decent
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At one point I had 490 Int (w/WH buff) and my AGI was around 200, I was doing a 1800+ proc plus weapon damage with HWH Vital Strike. I never lost a duel that way. Now, since our guild raids a lot I have pumped up WIS/AGI and I now have 370 INT (w/WH buff). I also purchased all the Elemental Shields and Defenders Resolve. My toon is built great for me now. I can still solo Reds and I don't die right away when DDing at a raid. I also was able to MT Noroxus with my current build. My new Vital Strike is still pretty high (about 1200-1400 proc).

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#8 Jun 06 2006 at 4:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Nammak wrote:
if you already maxed your str why would you get a form that adds str?



well lol i didnt put much thought when i was typing it, i was just listing good dueling forms for warriors.

Nammak wrote:
if i would go lion or rat maybe



NO NO NO lol never go Rat when your a tank, its pointless to even think about going that form lol. it cannot help you lol....unless your going it just for the looks.
Rat can only help you if your a caster or maybe a melee...which im not to sure about that.




Nammak wrote:
maybe even WH since most duelers have max or near max str and sta. not many HwH wars on ppo so i dont know much about them but i hear they are good since they arent resisted but low int hurts their VS



well thats a problem with warrior HwH, they really dont get much int to do a good amount of dmg i mean they do good dmg but its nothing compared to a SK HwH. but if a war does get high int he/she is probaly taking away from str or sta or the little agi and wis that can save their *** lol.
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#9 Jun 06 2006 at 6:58 PM Rating: Decent
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(soledus,btw,its me renkotsu :P) rofl..so anyways, i got a warrior 35 gatorwere Dark Elf that is named renkotsu. he has over 160 str and sta,86 dex and 116 agi. i was thinking on getting combat sense(increases offensive mod) then buying a sta cm to balance things,so i can hit harder and last longer. i could use a bit more advice cuz i spend alot of time building the perfect,if not,strong tank.
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#10 Jun 07 2006 at 2:07 PM Rating: Decent
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oh and for some additional info,i have 360 class mastery points spent.
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