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#1 Jun 25 2004 at 8:23 PM Rating: Decent
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im bored and was wonderin what do u guys think about pling? good? bad? dont care? i dont care just post
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#2 Jun 25 2004 at 8:41 PM Rating: Good
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man, we hav so many posts on this. IMO It sucks.
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#3 Jun 26 2004 at 12:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Well I think everything can be ok if people aren't asses. Don't laugh at others that didn't get it. Don't go saying well I have a 60 Necro and start challengeing. It really means nothing but a high char. Anyway just don't be a *** and do stuff like a *** and nothing will be bad. Don;t pull the whole camp, don't KS, don't get out high lvs just talk and do something fair.
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#4 Jun 26 2004 at 2:15 PM Rating: Decent
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If you dont know anything about your character...their role in the group...their spells...or how to play...then you DONT need a power level...you need to learn to play your character...

and even if you are playing a new character for the first time but have a high level char...you should still learn to play in a normal group for most of the time...

I have a monk I am learning to play...I love it..and have only stepped into a plvl at the end of a level to get the edge up over the hump to get my next spells..and have spent more of my time grouping...I know the basics of how to play my dd already..but I am not going to assume I know everything there is to know...and I think most people should choose wisely when thinking of plvling..I really do think more often than not it breeds bad players...
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#5 Jun 26 2004 at 2:39 PM Rating: Good
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every since the xp cap was put in, there really is no point in powerleveling. It may make it a little faster but not much. I think when i first started my SK i got PL at lvl 17 but that was the only time. Now im 51. It shows that you dont need power leveling to get higher.
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#6 Jun 27 2004 at 11:19 AM Rating: Decent
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every once in a while(month) its ok to do a PL, but its bad if you do them often, you wont get to know your class, and wont have as much actual experience with fighting. in the long run, although its faster to do a PL, it MUCH better to just get a grp and exp the old fashioned way :)
#7 Jun 27 2004 at 11:37 AM Rating: Good
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Power Leveling I think is acceptable for noobs and such but when you get a few characters under your belt why not try and get a decent level character with at it. The thing that comes with XP Grinding is that you get a better look at the game, you are being challenged and you will learn and get more into the game. With Power Leveling its like taking the Easy way out. Its like Example: Monday Morning: New Necromancer is Made, Sunday Afternoon: LvL 55 Necromancer Seeking group...Now please explain to me where the fun is in that.

I aint going to say that I have never been power leveled, Because yes I had my Druid Power Leveled only to delete her because of severe factions with all my coaching destinations. Now if i get Power Leveled its generally to get some quick Class Mastery points and such.

One thing thou about Power Leveling is that generally, Power Level groups camp in the places where most people have quests, and NPCs they need to kill in order to finish them. So it's inconvenant when a group has it camped and then tries to act all big and bad and say no this is our camp, Well first off chill let the one respawn, let the person get the needed kill/item and then go back to your cheating, i mean Power Leveling. It's not the end of the world and its only going to be like five minutes anyways.
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#8 Jun 27 2004 at 11:41 AM Rating: Decent
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^I agree, after you hit the 30s, you really shouldnt be trying to find a PLer
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Celynya wrote:
cheating, i mean Power Leveling.


exactly!!!!!!!!!! good points.
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#10 Jun 28 2004 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
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You know, the object of the game is NOT how many levels 60 with all their CMS you have.

The ONLY way you can have 3 or more level 60 toons with max CMs, is to PL them, never do your quests, never XP with real groups, never really play the game at all.... just PL level.... itz the only way... for lamerz that is.

Ive played this game since day 1.

You just can't put any more hours into the game than I do, unless you're an unemployed bum living off of someone elses hard earned money!

I never lack for groups, I allways have UBER groups, we allways grind our butts off for hours on end.

We allways grind smart, good XP ratio to TIME.
I have several 50's and are working on towards couple of 60s now.

Now, I for one know for a fact, you CANNOT do more 3 60s with all CMs, without PL!!!!

Now dont come back and say... well I got 2 boxs... or I got 4 boxs..... itz BS!!!!!! You know it, so do I. Dont even try to BS me.

I have some DORM buddies, they have 4 boxz, there are 7 of them that plays EQ all the time. They PL out the ying-yang 24/7/365!
They will tell ye the same thing I just said....

The MATH says you cant do more than 3 60s, with max CM, with all your quest, with only 2 boxs, since EQ first started! Just cant be done. And again, u may BS some peeps by saying, "yes you can, I have", no you can't, you can't BS me!

PL makes for a bad player....just look at bagal-head.... says he has 3 60 with maxed out CMs.... Maybe, but look at his posts! He is like a noobie, dosnt have any skillz or knowhow!!! SAD REALLY!

PL is for wussies, cheaters, lamers, lazypeeps, puffed-up-uber-wannbies! They will never have respect from uber players. Deep down, they will never have uber feeling for thier toons, why, cuz they know thier toons are worthless fruads!


Edited, Mon Jun 28 11:27:14 2004 by singforu
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#11 Jun 28 2004 at 11:50 AM Rating: Decent
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no1 has 3 60's with all cms it's not possible no matter wut u do. no 1 has ever gotten 1 character 2 60 and full cms. A pl isn't goin to help u get full cms as u can only get all 1500 cms once ur lvl 60. And the last 100 points are nearly 1 billion xp per point a pl isn't going to help.

A pl is not cheatin but I dont recomend it since you do not learn your character very well.
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#12 Jun 28 2004 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
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.just look at bagal-head.


Who is bagel-head? Do you mean Bonsey?
#13 Jun 28 2004 at 1:54 PM Rating: Decent
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No... itz that yahoo WeWantBaghinBack.

However, my theory on 3 or more 60s at max CMs with all ability Quests, still stands, even with Bonsey!!!! At least Bonsey has the good sense not to open his mouth and let out how much he really doesnt know about the game from PLing way too much!

Bagalhead however, is trying to pass himself off as somekind of training xpert, as if he could possible know something, or ANYTHING, about EQ that I or ANY average player doesn't know!

BTW, I didn'te rip into Bagalhead until he tryed to make out like training was a good thing, and that he is somekind of an elite trainer! Nope... just a pissy sissy who cant play well others, and getz frustrated playing correctly! Then, acts as if he has 3 60s max-out cms toons, which I dont think he has! THEN, to top off all that BS, he adds insult by trying to give advice and ASKING for advice!

Ye'know.... I likez BS'ers, I just don't like lying BS'ers!


Edited, Mon Jun 28 14:58:49 2004 by singforu
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#14 Jun 28 2004 at 3:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Bottom line is PLing is GAY!! ou don't learn a thing about your class from it. (i.e. if you're a power path nec, you won't know when to use ur power spells.) Blank, zip, bottom line, PLing is for n00bs.
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#15 Jun 28 2004 at 3:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Mommie's Boy here,

My Mommie says Singforu is a bad boy again, not to play with him becuz he has a potty mouth and likes to argue.

My Mommie says that bad boys will allways get thiers in the end.... I still dunno what Mommies means by that.

My Mommie says that Trainers and Liars are take a flying leep up thier *%#@!... Now my Mommie has a potty mouth too!
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#16 Jun 28 2004 at 10:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok Murrun will tell you the cold hard truth,

Power Leveling, other wise known as PL'ing, is a popular and dangerous phenomon.Once the PL'ee gets to a higher lvl, he will be lost as to his role in a group. further more, i will venture to say he will get the group killed at least once and be forced to get another PL. The vicious cycle goes on and on and on until we make and stand and say "No! This is not good!". and at this day when PL'ing is so popular is call unto you to stand against evil and injustice in the world of EQoA! Come with me to my Nonviolent march on sunday, june something, 2004. Stop the evil known as PL!

This has been Murrun, broadcasting from his computer. Have a nice evening folks.
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#17 Jun 28 2004 at 10:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I'll join yer march, when and where?
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#18 Jun 29 2004 at 11:34 AM Rating: Decent
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whoa i got alot more answers than i thought i would. and after seeing players thats must have pled cause they cant play their toon worth **** i aggree with u guys. i think pling should be stoped(dont know how that could happen) but it should. one more question sing has just caused out trainers every chance he gets and im wonderin what is a trainer and wat did they do to get people so pissed at them?
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#19 Jun 29 2004 at 11:40 AM Rating: Good
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a trainer is some one who aggros mobs and pulls them to groups. The group dies. Its jus to kill people and **** them off. Its very illegal on this game. You can be suspended forever.
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#20 Jun 29 2004 at 11:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Can some one PL me? Ill pay handsomely. I play on DH server
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OKAY! I'M SOOOO SORRY! But I must confess. I was on one weeknight w/ my mag lastweek scanning the regged LFG toons. Approx: 3 bards, 2 Wizzy's, 4 MAG's, 2 RGE's, and 1 NEC at one point. There was one Shammy about 12 levels higher than me, came on and by the time i sent inv, he was already in a group. So after almost 2 hours of LFG...<<sniffle>>....I grabbed 3 more DD's.....had guilie log in 50+ toon...<<sniffle>>...n....<<sniffle>>PL'd for 1 yellow- I'm so sorry to the powers-that-be-in-EQ, but yes, I PL'd from lvl 38.8 to 39. I know this now simply makes me a high level noob- but i'm confident: the right training, eat my vitamins, put the seat down...I can regain my former "standing-there-pressing-"O"- while-my-pet-does-all-the-work" expertise I once had.

I'll be in rehab...and may god have mercy on my soul.

Edited, Tue Jun 29 17:01:40 2004 by ArchangelKF
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#22 Jun 30 2004 at 10:06 AM Rating: Decent
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An occasional PL aint nothing, I thonk we all have done it one time or another. But habitual PL, is bad, esp for someone still new to the game!
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#23 Jun 30 2004 at 4:22 PM Rating: Good
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ya, my alts everyonce in a while get PL since i never stick with one. But i think im sticking with my ranger so ill try to get it as little as possible.
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#24 Jul 01 2004 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
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pling is ****** cool... it takes you into high lvls really quick without actually having to work for them.... jk.. on the serious side it has its good and its bad sides..
good: at low lvls when your whole role hasnt really come into play.. and maybe to just gain a few pink just to get spells or something like that.
Bad: just about any other time when u do it all the time and know nothing about the game. it pretty much stops workiing after u get to 40..

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#25 Jul 02 2004 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
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This is a game, a game is a form of entertainment, and entertainment is suposed to be fun and enjoyable. This game is online, there for players should be aware that there are other people playing that should also be having an enjoyable time. All this being said, what is it you get out of PLing? You get a high level character, haven't learned the character, may have spent training points in all the wrong places, may have bought all the wrong CM's. And what more is there to do once you are 60? The enjoyment for me in this game is talking to friends, and making a new one now and then. If I go from 1-60 in a week, can't realy build a friendship.

On the subject of enjoyable, if you are PLing, please don't take the entire camp, you may be able to survive 10 Nashiers hitting you with sticks, but that doesn't mean you have to. There are others playing that would like to share a nice sized camp that could support 2 or 3 normal groups. Also, if you are being PL'd, ask the PLer not to pull whole camp and to be consedorite of others. New players should also avoid PL's, atleast for the first 20, 25 levels. This will give them a feel for the game and the character.

Also, another problem with PL's, the majority of the PL's I do see is all Damage Dealers. What does this ocomplish? A world of 90% Damage Dealers is all I see hapening with groups like that getting PL'd. Even if you go for a PL, try to get a balanced group, at least that way it helps the balance of the archetypes. While we may never have a balanced world, the better balance, the more it helps every one find groups.

PL's aren't the best thing in the world, they aren't the worst thing in the world either. They hapen, they can be both effective and none effective. Just use some common scense when desciding to be a part of one. The choice can effect you, others in the group, and others that you don't know about.

New players do it because they don't realy care for the game and want a quick ego rush. Old players do it because they don't want to grind more characters but know how to play. End the end, it's up to the player on weither the PL was effective in what they where trying to occomplish.
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#26 Jul 02 2004 at 3:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Im ok with it. I just hate when a normal grp goes looking for a camp and cant find one cuz ppl are getting PL everywhere. gets me SOOO mad. as long as im able to XP and its not being affected by the PL then i dont giva @#%$. One thing i hate seeing is when you have a good friend around your lvl and they get PL so high where i cant grp with them any more. me and my freind both startd alts at the same time he started a mag i started my bard well we got to about 15 at the same time but the next day i logged on and he was 37 Already. He had got an all night pet PL when it still worked. got me SOOOO pyssd. well that was just my imput.
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