Idea for New Ultra-Elite ProfessionsFollow

Hello all you fellow swg'ers out there. I would just like to talk about a possible update/upgrade/what ever you wanna call it for swg. I put a post on this under the jedi forum but thought it might get more attention here. Ok, first, I was thinking about the fact that higher level Jedi's are practically invincible to other players. I have heard stories of Jedi being able to kick the asses of even MBH's and it got me thinking. I'm sure most of you are familar with the fact that the Jedi "tree" has three levels to it. You prolly also know that even the other elite professions (TKM, Carbines, etc.) all only have two levels (the novice "base" and then the full "elite" part) Wouldn't it be more fair (and cool) if the DEV team found a way in which to incorperate a Third level into any of those profs, esp with regards to BH. This would give other players, who don't want to become Jedi, a more powerful alternative.

Thanks..
-Zelo Ower, Sunrunner
P.S. don't gimme that crap about Mace Windu and Jango Fett, Fett could of outlasted Windu if his rocket hadn't been disabled and plus, Windu and Yoda were the best swordsmen in the galaxy. (and even the jedi masters in this game wouldn't compare to them)

I actually saw an interview long ago with a Dev where there was a brief mention about how they had thought about 'Elite Elite' Professions. Like you could get Master CH and then you could even go above that. They didnt say they were going to do it but the Concept had been brought up. Anyone else see that?

That is a really good point that you make about the point system, it sound like they would have to revamp the entire profession tree to accomidate for the number of skill points and the profession. It would be nice get some higher level professions, but we also dont want to down size the jedi either. They are suppost to be the stronger characters and it is suppost to be more difficult to become a jedi. Just as in the movies and books, the road to becoming a jedi is not an easy one, lets not undermind that by changing the other professions too much.

Hmmm... that's a rather different topic Ikewe. One I agree with, but still has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Dead is dead anyway... 5 seconds or 2 seconds... no difference.

Something I mentioned in my post before, if they did implement this, considering the level of power that combat professions currently have I don't think that any futher professions should provide MORE combat power... they should provide more diversity in the skill set.

Yes, but to suggest that a Novice combatant should be able to stand up to a Master TK doesn't seem to mesh. That's where I was saying, "Dead in 5 seconds or Dead in 2 seconds, what's the difference?"

The problem you were actually describing is the (rather cheap if you ask me) stalking of novice professions as they complete their low-level faction missions. That isn't a problem of profession balance, that's a problem with a system that rewards players that prey on people at a lower character development level. If a novice professions could stand up to a master profession there would be little if any reason to advance at all. The should create a way that people can play factioned without PvP. As you are already dropping to the current elite professions, anything higher becomes a moot point. It's going to drop you too.

I liked your no deathblow for TEFs idea actually and I'm truely sorry I didn't mention that in my last post. :) That WOULD take away the stalking incentive. I'm at work and got distracted... didn't complete my idea.

The only problem with your comparison in the original post about MBH vs a Master Jedi is that, although the Jedi has progressed through 3 trees (we'll ignore the fact that at the current time there can be no true master Jedi's), you still have a person who has mastered basically 3 profesions all in the same skill branch. Now, take a MBH, he's master Marksman, Scout, and BH, that's 3 in and of itself, then they have a few points left over (I know, very few) to pick up other skills. The BH still has 33 skill points to spend on what ever he wants, if my math is correct (77(mastering any novice profession) and 63 (for an elite) equals 217) to either bolster his fighting abilities (like picking up some pistoleer skills or perhaps ranger to do some traking) or support himself (i.e. Medic and Pharm 4 for Stim C use). That in itself overshadows what the jedi can accomplish, when looking at sheer advancement, and then one complete line in the jedi tree is based soley on healing and replaces itself. Then, throw in the fact that, although both can be buffed, the jedi loses out because all of his specials are force driven, nothing comes from the HAM stats. This, in effect, limits the jedi's ability to do what jedis do, and gives an advantage to the BH, since his buffs of STR, Quickness, and focus acutally do something for him besides making him spend few extra k credits for nothing. Well, enough of a rant, and I'll probably be flamed for this, but when you think of Jedi Masters, remember the only one you ever saw display his full power in the movies was the Emperor. Even with his jetpack, would you ever have given Jango even odds against THAT duel, I think not.

The whole issue od Jedis overpowering master bounty hunters shouldnt be a problem. Only the best of the best of teh best Bounty Hunters should be able to kill a Jedi. Other than that fact all the other reasons for Elite Elite are good.

Instead of making Uber Professions.. I think they should just add more quests... fun quests that happen randomly. Like, you're in the middle of running a Rebel/Imperial Mission, and a Scout of the opposing faction stops you. If you're covert, you can try to trick him into leaving you alone.. or blast him. If you're Overt, blast him. If you blast the guy, when you reach your final destination for the Mission, an army of both Factions appear, and a battle rages. That would be pretty cool, imo.