Was working my way through the Dragonmaw dailies and had to kill the shaman - located him easily enough so popped bear form and laid into him. As I'm tearing away a troll druid comes running up and starts helping - invite and he accepts - kewl, we'll blaze through this guy in no time.
Then the problem begins - despite there being a heroic bear going full berserk and a kitty of unknown quality going to town on this guy, not only isn't his health bar moving down, it's beginning to refill and despite no healing totem being up and him casting offensive spells - great, the NPC is bugged.
I figure we can still burn through him there being two ferals and then I notice an ally standing off to the side frantically casting but with no targets for him to attack, a priest to be specific. I make a leap of intuition and target what turns out to be a human priest decked out head to toe in a combination of raid and team PvP grade gear and sure enough he's got our quest mob targeted and is healing him like a tank on a raid.
The shaman is an 85 elite and that combined with the priest buffs and non-stop healing made it a no-win proposition for me - I was running out of health and CDs long before this loser was going to run out of mana.
The other druid then shares with me that this loser and another ally priest from a different guild had been griefing all night on this NPC.
I'd like to say that my reporting him and having as many guildies who were on doing the same might have had some effect, sadly, I got a canned response before I'd even turned in my other quests - yup, no GM contact at all, just the standard "sorry, we can't tell you what we did" response. I can tell you what they did - nothing - I flew back and loitered for a bit and the two of them were still there happily griefing anyone who tried to complete the quest.
Gotta wonder if that kind of behavior would stop if Blizz took a more aggressive approach to dealing with it.
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PvE server I assume? I would think healing an NPC would flag him. Its been years since I rolled PvE so I'm not sure how that works now. If so, call in reinforcements to burn his ***. That wouldn't fly on a PvP server however. Gotta love em. Anyway, jerks will be jerks I guess.
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PvE server I assume? I would think healing an NPC would flag him. Its been years since I rolled PvE so I'm not sure how that works now. If so, call in reinforcements to burn his ***. That wouldn't fly on a PvP server however. Gotta love em. Anyway, jerks will be jerks I guess.
Healing a flagged character will flag you, but the NPC shaman isn't flagged.
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If he really wants to waste his play time healing an NPC, just to stop Hordies doing one quest, I'd just leave him to it. Go and do something else productive, safe in the knowledge that you're getting a lot more out of your evening than he is.
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If he really wants to waste his play time healing an NPC, just to stop Hordies doing one quest, I'd just leave him to it
Pretty much this. I wouldn't let myself be griefed for his enjoyment. I'd just /slap him and skip that daily. You could try calling for reinforcements and out-dps his healing, but these days it's hard to find people who care.
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I wonder what would happen if you could get an Alliance player to help. Wouldn't an attack on the NPC cause him to flag, also flagging anyone with HoTs on him?
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Ask in General for 2-3 people to come, there's got to be a point where this guy can't handle any more DPS on the target.
As for someone who has a Mortal Strike or close-to to come along, that automatically takes a slice off of his healing.
He might have good Mana Regen, but he doesn't have infinite mana, especially if you have 3-4 geared players beating this guy down. Surely with the fact that it is a daily quest, you'd think there'd be multiple people in the zone wanting that guy dead for their quest, make a 5-man group and see just how long this priest can handle that.
Get an Arms Warrior... maybe even a DK or two for a pile of zombies.... he can't last forever. Drag the stupid guy over to Warlord Halthar, have him help too.
Or better yet, drag him to Blood Gulch. If the priest follows, he will get flagged and he will very promptly DIE. Actually, if the priest puts a HoT up on the shaman, and the shaman gets attacked by the guards, that should flag the priest when the priest gets aggro from the guards, even if the priest tries standing out of range. Have a hordie or two wait to ambush the priest before they can fly away (they should still be in combat until the shaman dies).
Tell your kitty friend to go to healer and keep you alive while you drag the mob over to BG.
Edited, Jan 31st 2011 7:33am by Lyrailis
As for someone who has a Mortal Strike or close-to to come along, that automatically takes a slice off of his healing.
He might have good Mana Regen, but he doesn't have infinite mana, especially if you have 3-4 geared players beating this guy down. Surely with the fact that it is a daily quest, you'd think there'd be multiple people in the zone wanting that guy dead for their quest, make a 5-man group and see just how long this priest can handle that.
Get an Arms Warrior... maybe even a DK or two for a pile of zombies.... he can't last forever. Drag the stupid guy over to Warlord Halthar, have him help too.
Or better yet, drag him to Blood Gulch. If the priest follows, he will get flagged and he will very promptly DIE. Actually, if the priest puts a HoT up on the shaman, and the shaman gets attacked by the guards, that should flag the priest when the priest gets aggro from the guards, even if the priest tries standing out of range. Have a hordie or two wait to ambush the priest before they can fly away (they should still be in combat until the shaman dies).
Tell your kitty friend to go to healer and keep you alive while you drag the mob over to BG.
Edited, Jan 31st 2011 7:33am by Lyrailis
Yeah, if that would have happened to me, I would have gotten guildies or other people in the zone to come help kill the shaman. Even with two jerks healing the shaman, if you get enough people attacking him, he'll go down eventually.
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We were working on learning BWD tonight. Some horde were at the stone after a wipe.
We took a PvP break.
I'm with Aeth on this one.
We took a PvP break.
I'm with Aeth on this one.
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We were working on learning BWD tonight. Some horde were at the stone after a wipe.
We took a PvP break.
I'm with Aeth on this one.
We took a PvP break.
I'm with Aeth on this one.
'Cause griefing folks of the other faction without even enabling your own PvP is a PvP break, amirite?
Griefers are a bit like trolls. Essentially they accomplish the same, but the first one doesn't require any skill and can be achieved by standing somewhere and facerolling your keyboard. I don't respect that.
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That's what I like about PvP servers.
If someone tries to grief me, I attack them and either win or die. None of that griefing going on.
If someone tries to grief me, I attack them and either win or die. None of that griefing going on.
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Mazra wrote:
That's what I like about PvP servers.
If someone tries to grief me, I attack them and either win or die. None of that griefing going on.
If someone tries to grief me, I attack them and either win or die. None of that griefing going on.
Griefing of this type is very rare, and is usually the result of an exploit that usually gets patched fairly quickly and might even result in the banning of those responsible for exploiting it.
This will get fixed in time, if too many people are doing it.
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We were working on learning BWD tonight. Some horde were at the stone after a wipe.
We took a PvP break.
I'm with Aeth on this one.
We took a PvP break.
I'm with Aeth on this one.
'Cause griefing folks of the other faction without even enabling your own PvP is a PvP break, amirite?
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Lyrailis wrote:
Griefing of this type is very rare, and is usually the result of an exploit that usually gets patched fairly quickly and might even result in the banning of those responsible for exploiting it.
This will get fixed in time, if too many people are doing it.
This will get fixed in time, if too many people are doing it.
Hardly an exploit to heal a friendly NPC. I'm guessing the GM response would be something along the lines of "Get some friends and out-DPS his HPS."
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Mazra wrote:
Lyrailis wrote:
Griefing of this type is very rare, and is usually the result of an exploit that usually gets patched fairly quickly and might even result in the banning of those responsible for exploiting it.
This will get fixed in time, if too many people are doing it.
This will get fixed in time, if too many people are doing it.
Hardly an exploit to heal a friendly NPC. I'm guessing the GM response would be something along the lines of "Get some friends and out-DPS his HPS."
Most non-PvP flagged NPCs are not heal-able, I'm assuming for that reason.
AFAIK, the only healable NPCs that I know of, are escorts and neutral NPCs. NPCs that can be healed that are friendly to 1 faction but not the other are usually flagged for PvP, so if you heal the NPC, you get flagged yourself.
This is the only example of an NPC that is hostile to one faction, friendly to another, NOT flagged AND heal-able.
Probably an accidental oversight.
Edited, Feb 2nd 2011 6:41pm by Lyrailis
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Mozared wrote:
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We were working on learning BWD tonight. Some horde were at the stone after a wipe.
We took a PvP break.
I'm with Aeth on this one.
We took a PvP break.
I'm with Aeth on this one.
'Cause griefing folks of the other faction without even enabling your own PvP is a PvP break, amirite?
I've been flagged since I rolled my toon. I have never and will never play on a PvE server.
Lyrailis wrote:
This is the only example of an NPC that is hostile to one faction, friendly to another, NOT flagged AND heal-able.
I'm sure they will make healing the NPC flag the healer. As I agree that does seem like an oversight and not something they intended.
Still the answer to the problem does have a PvP solution.
If its red its dead. Works every time.
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I'm sure they will make healing the NPC flag the healer. As I agree that does seem like an oversight and not something they intended.
The problem is, though, is that if they PvP-flag the NPC, then members of the opposite faction who need to kill him for the daily quest, will get flagged too.
Nah, it sounds like the easiest thing to do in this case, is to make the NPC not heal-able like 99% of all other mobs like him.
The NPC in question does not give out any quests, is not needed for any quests (except for the quest/achievement to kill him), so there's no reason players need to be able to heal/buff the mob in question.
Lyrailis wrote:
The NPC in question does not give out any quests, is not needed for any quests (except for the quest/achievement to kill him), so there's no reason players need to be able to heal/buff the mob in question.
Except for him being friendly.
It's the PvP monster me surfacing here, so don't mind it. If I had my way, Blizzard would implement FFA servers.
Oh, the carnage. Oh, the fun.
First on my kill list would be that idiot who parked his huge *** dragon on the Reforge NPC.
Edited, Feb 3rd 2011 4:39pm by Mazra
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Mazra wrote:
First on my kill list would be that idiot who parked his huge *** dragon on the Reforge NPC.
Edited, Feb 3rd 2011 4:39pm by Mazra
Edited, Feb 3rd 2011 4:39pm by Mazra
APrince wrote:
PvE server I assume? I would think healing an NPC would flag him. Its been years since I rolled PvE so I'm not sure how that works now. If so, call in reinforcements to burn his ***. That wouldn't fly on a PvP server however. Gotta love em. Anyway, jerks will be jerks I guess.
No. Horde can also do the same to the Orc Boss that Alliance has to fight for the Thundermar Dwarves (Wildhammer faction)
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Mazra wrote:
First on my kill list would be that idiot who parked his huge *** dragon on the Reforge NPC.
Edited, Feb 3rd 2011 4:39pm by Mazra
Edited, Feb 3rd 2011 4:39pm by Mazra
You can take mounts into the enchanting trainer offices in Org. That hole is tiny, I counted 13 ppl in there one nite, 3 with mounts.
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Mazra wrote:
First on my kill list would be that idiot who parked his huge *** dragon on the Reforge NPC.
Edited, Feb 3rd 2011 4:39pm by Mazra
Edited, Feb 3rd 2011 4:39pm by Mazra
You can take mounts into the enchanting trainer offices in Org. That hole is tiny, I counted 13 ppl in there one nite, 3 with mounts.
Edited, Feb 3rd 2011 2:24pm by Poldaran
People use Org? Ever since the redesign, I vomit a little every time I see it.
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People use Org? Ever since the redesign, I vomit a little every time I see it.
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jaysgsl wrote:
People use Org? Ever since the redesign, I vomit a little every time I see it.
Psh, gosu players set their Hearthstone to the Valley of Strength inn.
That way, assuming your computer is a couple of years old, you'll have about 30 seconds of 2 FPS every time you hearth there.
I have my HS set to Orgrimmar because the bank, zeppelins, auctioneers and trainers are all relatively close to each other. Not to mention the portals.
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