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#27 Jan 26 2011 at 1:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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...is about like accusing Juicy Fruit of being a gateway drug.

Oh, but it is.
It starts off innocently, one here and there. Then you go to a party and try your first Starburst. They keep you going for a while but, before long, you're hitting the hard stuff - Jolly Rancher. Slowly your life spirals out of control, and your family seeks professional help the night they find you crying in your bed at 2AM, muttering "I just need a taste.. just a taste, man.. a taste.. of the rainbow."
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This is a perfect example of why Freud ultimately concluded that cocaine isn't healthy. Try posting something when you're not completely ****** out of your gourd.
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Look what you did now you angried up the Projections! Is that music? Oh **** here comes the kick...
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This is a perfect example of why Freud ultimately concluded that cocaine isn't healthy. Try posting something when you're not completely @#%^ed out of your gourd.


Where's the fun in that?
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This is a perfect example of why Freud ultimately concluded that cocaine isn't healthy.

Rick James said it best. "Cocaine's a hell of a drug."
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Sorry, I was combining prosac with alchool consumption.

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This is a perfect example of why Freud ultimately concluded that cocaine isn't healthy. Try posting something when you're not completely @#%^ed out of your gourd.


Using big names, especially ones that taught entire societies that you can subliminally control and condition sentient beings by a punishment / reward system of conscious behaviors and actions make you the biggest bigot of all time.

Cocaine is unhealthy because it is ingested by a mammal who doesn't have a nervous system impervious to lesions, which you have many apparently.

Using Freud, Cocaine and ****** out of your gourd fails. It is all invalid.
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ZAM - The only place where you would be considered normal.

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Using big names, especially ones that taught entire societies that you can subliminally control and condition sentient beings by a punishment / reward system of conscious behaviors and actions make you the biggest bigot of all time.


Freud wasn't a behaviorist, from what I've been told. I think you might be referring to Pavlov and Watson?
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a full-blown booty-call


I didn't catch all the details, but from what I gathered the tank he had take his place never showed; so he called off the meet and greet. Poor guy has his priorities a little messed up. Smiley: rolleyes

Unfortunately I have no details on the attractiveness of the booty.

Doesn't matter how attractive the booty call was.

If I got a call/text saying I have one free shot down at the bar, I'm logging out that second and grabbing my keys and my coat.

If there's potential *** involved, I may not even bother grabbing my coat.

If you pass up anything that's enjoyable IRL for something in WoW, you need help. Smiley: schooled
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If there are a small minded people out there that are hopelessly addicted to World of Warcraft (and I know there are), this is not Blizzards fault. Blizzard made games for two purposes: 1: To make money and 2: To entertain people. What those people do with their time, energy, life, etc., etc., while playing the game has nothing to do with Blizzard Entertainment.

Your post is saying Blizzard knowingly produces a game that will get people addicted and this is simply not true.

What's next: Blaming McDonalds for a Big Mac addiction and gaining 300lbs then having a heart attack and dying? Oh wait, that's been done already in the United States. Carry on!

However, I'm still waiting for the day that some parent somewhere files a lawsuit against Blizzard Entertainment cos they let their children play all day, all night, for years, and said child became grossly obese with health problems. This of course is Blizzards fault right? It certainly can't be the parents or even the child's fault?

Edit: For typo

Edited, Jan 30th 2011 8:58am by Seculartwo
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But those kinda a girls are soooooo much fun in bed!
#40 Jan 30 2011 at 9:55 AM Rating: Good
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Your post is saying Blizzard knowingly produces a game that will get people addicted and this is simply not true.
Addiction might be a strong word but Blizzard definitely made the game in a way that will make players come back for more.
And they sure as hell knew that there were going to be players who would play WoW 24/7 when they made it and they also knew that the better they made their game the more of those people there would be.
They also really didn't mind because those people equal money for Blizzard and money is what they make games for.
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Addiction might be a strong word but Blizzard definitely made the game in a way that will make players come back for more.


Of course! They want players to play their game or it wouldn't exist. The OP clearly stated though that Blizzard has some kind of conspiracy to "addict" players. This is false IMO and the point of my reply. It's the same as Pizza Hut: They want to make good pizzas to get people to come back for more at some point. It's business, not a conspiracy. Now if they used heroin as a secret topping, then lets talk addiction and conspiracy.

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And they sure as hell knew that there were going to be players who would play WoW 24/7 when they made it and they also knew that the better they made their game the more of those people there would be.


At $15 a month for someone who plays 1 hour a day or 24 hours a day, I don't think it really matters to Blizzard as long as they have a high player base to pay the bills and employees that work on WoW. The so called 24 hour-a-day players use more bandwidth from Blizzards servers so they probably make more money off of the hour a day players overall; this is speculation on my part of course. :)

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They also really didn't mind because those people equal money for Blizzard and money is what they make games for.


Not really because again, an hour a day player pays the same as a 24 hour-a-day player. Though I imagine an all day player may be more opt to buy store pets and mounts equaling more money for Blizzard and Co. I'm willing to bet though that casuals still make up the higher population of players, thus they make Blizzard more money overall.
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The people who play 24/7 are however the loyal fanbase that's been playing since beta and will be playing until the last servers are closed down, possibly on multiple accounts too.
The guy who plays 1 hour a week is much more likely to just quit for a few months or quit altogether because he's lost interest.
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The people who play 24/7 are more likely to have WoW as their primary source of entertainment, making things like the TRH and the companion pets seem like good purchases. They are also more likely to be more emotionally invested in their characters, increasing the likelihood of them making use of services like server transfers.

That is why devoted players mean alot more money for Blizz.
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If there are a small minded people out there that are hopelessly addicted to World of Warcraft (and I know there are), this is not Blizzards fault.


Did you just call addicts small-minded?

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Did you just call addicts small-minded?


No, not all addicts, just World of Warcraft addicts. In my reply post you quoted.

I feel when it comes to video game addiction (like WoW), that's more of a small minded type of thing to let a video game run and/or even ruin your life. When you see some of the posts on the O-boards on a Tuesday when the servers are not up on time, the small minded addicts come out in droves.

I am not referring to drug, ***, food, alcoholics, etc., etc., because most of that is a disease. Totally different topic and situation. Though, they to have their share of small minded people as well.
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Addiction isn't to a specific thing. It's just 'addiction.'
A person who becomes 'addicted to a video game' will become addicted to another thing in place of the video game. The same applies to EVERYTHING with an addiction, though certain chemicals are more likely to be addictive (Tobacco's active ingredients, alcohol).
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Did you just call addicts small-minded?


No, not all addicts, just World of Warcraft addicts. In my reply post you quoted.


And how would you define a "World of Warcraft addict"? Someone who craves the game enough to think about it while at work? Someone who craves it enough to write on a website about it? Someone who quit the game and came back?

Because that pretty much describes every single one of us. Including you.
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And how would you define a "World of Warcraft addict"?


Pretty much the same way I'd define a crack addict: Someone that would give up friends, family, health, life, work, money and even food to get their WoW fix. Destroying their marriages etc.,etc,. If they don't work and have to steal to pay the $30 bucks for a game card. People have done all those things and more when it comes to WoW, just as they've done the same exact thing with cocaine, heroin/morphine. Bright promising students have dropped or been kicked out of collage due to their addiction to WoW. If you cannot control your need to play WoW, then you have to consider the possibility that it's becoming unhealthy and quite frankly, you need to quit.

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Someone who craves the game enough to think about it while at work? Someone who craves it enough to write on a website about it? Someone who quit the game and came back?


No, not at all! You're reading way too much into my post and what addiction is: A disease! Making a website doesn't mean they are an addict. Nor does quitting and coming back. And you're wrong, all this doesn't describe all of us, far from it.

I'm not trying to insult anyone, but face it, there are people (probably some on this forum), that are addicts to the point of it being unhealthy and even controlling their lives. Just as cocaine or heroin does to people. Crack addicts can work, but they work for crack. Same could be said for some WoW addicts. Remember, WoW does stimulate our brains and for some people, that stimulation is more intense than most people. Just like drugs: There's plenty of cocaine users out there that are not addicted, just as the majority of WoW players are not addicted. But none-the-less, there are addicted WoW players and it could turn very bad for them and their families if they don't get it under control.

But with this said, this is not Blizzards doing (as the OP suggests) it's the person that got themselves to that point in their lives. And like it or not, many of them are small minded simpletons to have been pulled into an addiction to a pixelated fictional world.


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Edited, Jan 30th 2011 10:51pm by Seculartwo
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I still don't get why people addicted to a video game are simpletons. Why is a video game addiction different from any other addiction?

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Why is a video game addiction different from any other addiction?
The obvious difference of course is that WoW doesn't have a physical aspect to it, unlike drugs such as cocaine, heroin etc.

Also if you're playing WoW so much that it starts to take over your life I don't think quitting is going to magically make everything better and I think you'd be better off asking yourself why you're playing WoW/what you are missing in real life that makes WoW so attractive.
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The physical addiction might be a form of endorphin or adrenaline addiction. Commonly seen in people who work out a lot ("runner's high"), or enjoy extreme sports. You're not addicted to the activity itself, but rather the drug your body releases whenever you're doing the activity.

My point, however, is that addictions are addictions, and one is not necessarily a simpleton because one is addicted to a video game instead of cocaine.
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