Just thought I'd add today that I activated the 10 day free trial and all I had to download was 89mb to play. It has all the cata content as far as I know.
Verified: If you've been keeping up with patches, there's no giant download when you install Cata. If you haven't, well, expect to download updates.
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"Saying that a druid can go resto and do well in arena and saying that a hunter can't do the same doesn't make any sense whatsoever." - Wait
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"Saying that a druid can go resto and do well in arena and saying that a hunter can't do the same doesn't make any sense whatsoever." - Wait
Cunk wrote:
I have a quick question. I am hoping I am not the only one. Whenever I read something about the "WTF folder" I can't help but call it the "what the F@&%" folder in my head. Is there anyone out there that has the same problem?
I also mentally call it that, but once you look at it you can actually change some some by altering files in the Warcraft Text File folder. Mostly in the Config.wtf file, I usually hard code in max camera angle stuff and things of that nature.
The more you know.
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jaysgsl wrote:
Just thought I'd add today that I activated the 10 day free trial and all I had to download was 89mb to play. It has all the cata content as far as I know.
Verified: If you've been keeping up with patches, there's no giant download when you install Cata. If you haven't, well, expect to download updates.
Verified: If you've been keeping up with patches, there's no giant download when you install Cata. If you haven't, well, expect to download updates.
You have quite the history of missing the entire point of a thread, Jaysgsl.
You do it so frequently.
Post #1:
Lyrailis complains (nothing new) about how there shouldn't be a 7 gig download on top of the purchased game.
Answer #1:
It is said that the downloads are post disc press patches.
Lyrailis says that this isn't possible, it was for Blizzard to save money.
Answer#2:
It's confirmed that the data is nothing but patches, as a person with all current updates (and NO CATA DISC AT ALL) only downloaded less than 100mb of patch data to play.
Summary:
If you're concerned about installing the Cata disc to have to install patches, and you're a current player, just enter your CD key and keep playing without downloading a single extra MB (I was a mini-patch behind).
This could actually a valid concern if you're a current player. It's possible the Cata disc installs a previous version of the game, causing the user to download the patches they've already downloaded, but that doesn't seem likely.
Lyrailis complains (nothing new) about how there shouldn't be a 7 gig download on top of the purchased game.
Answer #1:
It is said that the downloads are post disc press patches.
Lyrailis says that this isn't possible, it was for Blizzard to save money.
Answer#2:
It's confirmed that the data is nothing but patches, as a person with all current updates (and NO CATA DISC AT ALL) only downloaded less than 100mb of patch data to play.
Summary:
If you're concerned about installing the Cata disc to have to install patches, and you're a current player, just enter your CD key and keep playing without downloading a single extra MB (I was a mini-patch behind).
This could actually a valid concern if you're a current player. It's possible the Cata disc installs a previous version of the game, causing the user to download the patches they've already downloaded, but that doesn't seem likely.
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"Saying that a druid can go resto and do well in arena and saying that a hunter can't do the same doesn't make any sense whatsoever." - Wait
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"Saying that a druid can go resto and do well in arena and saying that a hunter can't do the same doesn't make any sense whatsoever." - Wait
Quote:
Lyrailis says that this isn't possible, it was for Blizzard to save money.
Answer#2:
It's confirmed that the data is nothing but patches, as a person with all current updates (and NO CATA DISC AT ALL) only downloaded less than 100mb of patch data to play.
Answer#2:
It's confirmed that the data is nothing but patches, as a person with all current updates (and NO CATA DISC AT ALL) only downloaded less than 100mb of patch data to play.
And you've yet to prove that it wasn't just Blizzard saving money on 1 DVD per package.
Of course someone who already has the game installed only has to DL 100MB; duh.
That wasn't the point of the thread; it never was.
The point of the thread, is someone who IS a new player (or an existing player who has an HDD failure, computer failure, had to buy a new computer, what-not), someone who buys Cata from a brick and mortar, and buys the license for the previous expansions online.
Given that Patch 4.0 completely redid the file structure, I think it is safe to say that installing anything 3.x or earlier doesn't really do one much good -- the Cata DVD is going to have to throw all of that out anyways (hence why we had to download 5.7GB way back in what was that, October?).
Just because current players with game already installed only downloads 100MB doesn't prove that Blizz didn't skimp on the DVDs. Face it: The game is ~15GB; a DVD can hold at most 8-9GB. They knew they'd need 2 DVDs to hold the whole game. Simple math, really. Basically what they did was they stuck as much as they could fit on that single DVD and just make you download the rest which is not really an option for those who have limited monthly bandwidth and/or slower connections.
Fail troll is fail troll.
Edited, Dec 22nd 2010 12:56am by Lyrailis
Download the rest....
Dude, all you're buying with the box is the CD-Key and the paper materials. The DVD is something to look at as a spare tire.
I do NOT have Cataclysm. I have WotLK. I quite playing around a month before 4.0 to focus on Beta.
I can log in, thanks to a 10 day trial, without a huge download. All I've done is download patches, as I would have done if I were still playing the game, nothing special.
If I were to buy the box of the game, all I'd do is put in the CD-Key, and play. The disc would never come out of its case.
This is the average person who will be installing the game.
To make wild accusations at Blizzard because you aren't part of the majority of the player base in just about any way (judging from other complaint topics and posts) is just as ridiculous here as it is to the people doing the same in the Guild XP thread.
Dude, all you're buying with the box is the CD-Key and the paper materials. The DVD is something to look at as a spare tire.
I do NOT have Cataclysm. I have WotLK. I quite playing around a month before 4.0 to focus on Beta.
I can log in, thanks to a 10 day trial, without a huge download. All I've done is download patches, as I would have done if I were still playing the game, nothing special.
If I were to buy the box of the game, all I'd do is put in the CD-Key, and play. The disc would never come out of its case.
This is the average person who will be installing the game.
To make wild accusations at Blizzard because you aren't part of the majority of the player base in just about any way (judging from other complaint topics and posts) is just as ridiculous here as it is to the people doing the same in the Guild XP thread.
Cicorest, Mage||Das Führer, DK||Nalgas, Rogue
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1983 Mazda RX7 GSL - Rexie - My Garage
"Saying that a druid can go resto and do well in arena and saying that a hunter can't do the same doesn't make any sense whatsoever." - Wait
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1983 Mazda RX7 GSL - Rexie - My Garage
"Saying that a druid can go resto and do well in arena and saying that a hunter can't do the same doesn't make any sense whatsoever." - Wait
jaysgsl wrote:
Download the rest....
Dude, all you're buying with the box is the CD-Key and the paper materials. The DVD is something to look at as a spare tire.
I do NOT have Cataclysm. I have WotLK. I quite playing around a month before 4.0 to focus on Beta.
I can log in, thanks to a 10 day trial, without a huge download. All I've done is download patches, as I would have done if I were still playing the game, nothing special.
If I were to buy the box of the game, all I'd do is put in the CD-Key, and play. The disc would never come out of its case.
This is the average person who will be installing the game.
To make wild accusations at Blizzard because you aren't part of the majority of the player base in just about any way (judging from other complaint topics and posts) is just as ridiculous here as it is to the people doing the same in the Guild XP thread.
Dude, all you're buying with the box is the CD-Key and the paper materials. The DVD is something to look at as a spare tire.
I do NOT have Cataclysm. I have WotLK. I quite playing around a month before 4.0 to focus on Beta.
I can log in, thanks to a 10 day trial, without a huge download. All I've done is download patches, as I would have done if I were still playing the game, nothing special.
If I were to buy the box of the game, all I'd do is put in the CD-Key, and play. The disc would never come out of its case.
This is the average person who will be installing the game.
To make wild accusations at Blizzard because you aren't part of the majority of the player base in just about any way (judging from other complaint topics and posts) is just as ridiculous here as it is to the people doing the same in the Guild XP thread.
Err, dude, you realize you're doing more whining than I ever did in this entire thread?
Your "Complaint about the 'complaint'" is far worse than any "complaint" I had.
This thread was more like a warning or notification as well as maybe a huh, that's odd, you'd think they'd at least... than an actual "OMG THIS SUCKS!".
But then, I suppose you're doing your best to troll me and come out swinging with your personal attacks even though I never touched you. You're big on pre-emptive trolling and personal attacking, aren't you?
Here's a suggestion: Since you don't play WoW anymore, and since you don't actually know what is going on, outside of what you read and what your friends tell you, how about you ****** off and mind your own business for once?
Oh, and if you haven't played since the 4.0 patch, you have a lot of downloading to do: Patch 3.3.3 (I believe the last 3.x was) to Patch 4.0 had a 5.76GB download because they completely redid the file structure as I mentioned before. This wasn't counting the 7GB download right after patch day.
But then, of course, you might not know that if you weren't even playing WoW at the time.
Which kinda makes me wonder.... why, again, are you actively participating in threads on a forum of a game you don't even play?
--EDIT: The whole 'warning people' about this ******** is just inaccurate. Anyone who's been playing a while should be smart enough to keep up on patches. Anyone who's BRAND NEW to the game is either going to buy it digital download if they're well researched, and not have this problem, or they'll buy the Battle Chest + Cataclysm, and have to do the install. If they're just buying the Battle Chest + Cataclysm, they're COMPLETELY new to the game. Those people aren't going to be checking your whine thread ;) --
You don't listen very well at all, do you?
I stopped playing because I was concentrating on the beta, not because I 'quit the game.' I saw absolutely no reason to continue paying for outdated content.
Now that I AM playing again, I started with the 10 day free Cataclysm trial.
You know what? I explained it VERY clearly. Very, very, very, very, very clearly.
I was not playing live. *Jey not play game in live server*
I would load up my launcher whenever there was a major patch so it would download (including 4.0.x). *Jey made sure game was updated*
I activated the 10 day Cataclysm demo *Jey press shiny button to play game free for 10 suns and 10 moons*
I had to download only 89MB *Jey make little bitty download*
After downloading ONLY 89MB, I was able to play. My first action was to create a Worgen just so I knew I had ALL the game files. *Jey play furry puppy man*
The Cataclysm DVD has NEVER touched my system. *Jey no put spinny circle in noisy electrical box*
However, if I were to go buy Cataclysm RIGHT NOW I'd only have to put in the CD Key, and JUST CONTINUE PLAYING without a 7GB download *Jey buy magical spinny circle, then Jey just put numbers from inside box into magical internet location*
I've translated into complete moron in the asterisks JUST IN CASE you didn't understand again.
Edited, Dec 22nd 2010 1:30pm by jaysgsl
You don't listen very well at all, do you?
I stopped playing because I was concentrating on the beta, not because I 'quit the game.' I saw absolutely no reason to continue paying for outdated content.
Now that I AM playing again, I started with the 10 day free Cataclysm trial.
You know what? I explained it VERY clearly. Very, very, very, very, very clearly.
I was not playing live. *Jey not play game in live server*
I would load up my launcher whenever there was a major patch so it would download (including 4.0.x). *Jey made sure game was updated*
I activated the 10 day Cataclysm demo *Jey press shiny button to play game free for 10 suns and 10 moons*
I had to download only 89MB *Jey make little bitty download*
After downloading ONLY 89MB, I was able to play. My first action was to create a Worgen just so I knew I had ALL the game files. *Jey play furry puppy man*
The Cataclysm DVD has NEVER touched my system. *Jey no put spinny circle in noisy electrical box*
However, if I were to go buy Cataclysm RIGHT NOW I'd only have to put in the CD Key, and JUST CONTINUE PLAYING without a 7GB download *Jey buy magical spinny circle, then Jey just put numbers from inside box into magical internet location*
I've translated into complete moron in the asterisks JUST IN CASE you didn't understand again.
Edited, Dec 22nd 2010 1:30pm by jaysgsl
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"Saying that a druid can go resto and do well in arena and saying that a hunter can't do the same doesn't make any sense whatsoever." - Wait
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"Saying that a druid can go resto and do well in arena and saying that a hunter can't do the same doesn't make any sense whatsoever." - Wait
And you're not understanding me, so let me put it to you in "Moron Terms" (since you seem to need it yourself):
1). Some people might need to re-install the game because of a hardware failure in their computer. HDD Crash, new computer, etc. They're not going to go out and buy the freaking Battle Chest to do so.
2). Some people might have quit/stopped playing/what-not before Patch 4.0 and didn't really have any plans on playing the game and fell behind on patches, and didn't think Cataclysm was going to be all that great, and eventually got bit by the WoW bug and decided to come on back and wound up buying the Cata box from a brick and mortar.
3). Some people might have wanted to do a full re-install just to get rid of old files. Some games benefit from this, they run better, etc.
Whatever the reason, there are times when people either have to reinstall the game from scratch, or didn't have Patch 4.0 downloaded.
In Previous expansions, they didn't completely re-do the entire file structure; a full install wasn't necessary. When you pop the Cata DVD in the drive, there's this big button that says "FULL GAME INSTALL".
That makes you think that it will, in fact, install a full copy of the game. It does not. The amount of time you have to spend waiting makes it seem like it is installing a full copy of the game, but yet it doesn't.
I know you like to make yourself look all high-and-mighty, but all it makes you look like, is a jerk and a troll when you do your best to pick apart everyone else's posts trying to find ways to point at them and laugh and go "I rock and you suck!"
Seriously, the part that "I logged on and downloaded every patch" crap is nothing more than you trying to brag about how good you supposedly are. It looks pretty childish to be honest. *Shrugs*
1). Some people might need to re-install the game because of a hardware failure in their computer. HDD Crash, new computer, etc. They're not going to go out and buy the freaking Battle Chest to do so.
2). Some people might have quit/stopped playing/what-not before Patch 4.0 and didn't really have any plans on playing the game and fell behind on patches, and didn't think Cataclysm was going to be all that great, and eventually got bit by the WoW bug and decided to come on back and wound up buying the Cata box from a brick and mortar.
3). Some people might have wanted to do a full re-install just to get rid of old files. Some games benefit from this, they run better, etc.
Whatever the reason, there are times when people either have to reinstall the game from scratch, or didn't have Patch 4.0 downloaded.
In Previous expansions, they didn't completely re-do the entire file structure; a full install wasn't necessary. When you pop the Cata DVD in the drive, there's this big button that says "FULL GAME INSTALL".
That makes you think that it will, in fact, install a full copy of the game. It does not. The amount of time you have to spend waiting makes it seem like it is installing a full copy of the game, but yet it doesn't.
I know you like to make yourself look all high-and-mighty, but all it makes you look like, is a jerk and a troll when you do your best to pick apart everyone else's posts trying to find ways to point at them and laugh and go "I rock and you suck!"
Seriously, the part that "I logged on and downloaded every patch" crap is nothing more than you trying to brag about how good you supposedly are. It looks pretty childish to be honest. *Shrugs*
1. Those people would likely download the files off the website, or know they'll have to patch anyway, especially since there's been two small patches since your OP.
2. Those people will have to download the 7GB *****PATCH*****
3. Those people will also have to download all of the *****PATCHES*****
Welcome to online gaming where there are patches that you must download.
There's nothing I've seen that you LIKE about this game, so I advise you try out other ventures. I hear Super Mario Brothers doesn't have patches, or lengthy guild leveling processes. Sounds right up your alley.
Logging on to download patches isn't in any way bragging. It's something *****most other players would be doing anyway***** so, no bragging rights there.
I'm failing to see how you don't understand that the 7GB patch wasn't some conspiracy to save money. It was data *****released after the discs were pressed***** and patched into the game.
Did I add enough stars to point out the important things yet?
2. Those people will have to download the 7GB *****PATCH*****
3. Those people will also have to download all of the *****PATCHES*****
Welcome to online gaming where there are patches that you must download.
There's nothing I've seen that you LIKE about this game, so I advise you try out other ventures. I hear Super Mario Brothers doesn't have patches, or lengthy guild leveling processes. Sounds right up your alley.
Logging on to download patches isn't in any way bragging. It's something *****most other players would be doing anyway***** so, no bragging rights there.
I'm failing to see how you don't understand that the 7GB patch wasn't some conspiracy to save money. It was data *****released after the discs were pressed***** and patched into the game.
Did I add enough stars to point out the important things yet?
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"Saying that a druid can go resto and do well in arena and saying that a hunter can't do the same doesn't make any sense whatsoever." - Wait
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"Saying that a druid can go resto and do well in arena and saying that a hunter can't do the same doesn't make any sense whatsoever." - Wait
#37Mojobroho,
Posted: Dec 09 2011 at 7:00 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Guess I'll sound off about this. The patches for Wrath were about 7gb. You can go to Atomic Gamer and add it all up. Loading the game from scratch to rid your system of krap would seem logical, except you are really loading every patch ever as Vanilla is modified to BC to Wrath to Cata. You'll flush your add-ons I guess. Blizz assumes that fresh-loaders wouldn't pay the extra $50 for them to print (to order no less) and ship 5 to 7 dvds but that is not true. Just repackage the game as a single UPDATED release every time. You can use the updater to patch in-game in between. The incrimental way they do it now (loading every patch to morph the original game into cata)is whack for sure!
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