Not me, but I think I just saw it. A largish group had just finished the entire battle of gnomer quest line, only to get back to IF and find a yayhoo sitting his mammoth on the king gnome, so that no one can do the quest line turn in. He's there bragging and taunting the group about how he's going to make sure very few get the achievement. So, a lot of people start reporting him for griefing. Then, all of a sudden, he and his mammoth vanish. I tried to look him up in the armory (to see if he was in a guild, so I could tell a guild master), but his name didn't show up. It's as if that toon doesn't exist. Did a GM ban his sorry tail feathers? I sure hope so!
Edited, Sep 8th 2010 2:19am by ohmikeghod
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Old age and treachery will always overcome youth and enthusiasm!
Aside from the deep and complex parts, WoW is not deep and complex. Jordster
There are only 2 types of goldsellers in these parts. Dead ones, and dead ones that don't know it yet... Dread Lörd Kaolian
Stop hanging out with morons. That's probably impossible though because there are tons of morons out there. Mentalfrog
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And all those reporters didn't have the brain do just target the name plate?
You just have to press V or was it control+V? Pretty simple.
I would be very amused, and sad, if blizzard actually would perma ban somebody for this. It's not like he cut off the one and only way they could target him...
Maybe a warning would have been in order, as I don't agree with what he did, but perma-ban?
You just have to press V or was it control+V? Pretty simple.
I would be very amused, and sad, if blizzard actually would perma ban somebody for this. It's not like he cut off the one and only way they could target him...
Maybe a warning would have been in order, as I don't agree with what he did, but perma-ban?
Kazzak-EU
They might ban him, if it's not his first second or even third offense and he's already been warned. How do you know what the reporters did or didn't do? Were you there? I know I got my achieve before he left (or was removed), but I still reported him for disruption of game play, which is an offense (normally the player is given a short time out, but not disappeared). As far as I can tell, it's as if the toon was removed. Whether it was removed by a GM, or deleted by the player, I won't venture to guess. I suppose that he could be ashamed enough of what he did to suicide the toon, but players don't usually terminate Level 80 characters like that.
--- Mike ---
Old age and treachery will always overcome youth and enthusiasm!
Aside from the deep and complex parts, WoW is not deep and complex. Jordster
There are only 2 types of goldsellers in these parts. Dead ones, and dead ones that don't know it yet... Dread Lörd Kaolian
Stop hanging out with morons. That's probably impossible though because there are tons of morons out there. Mentalfrog
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Old age and treachery will always overcome youth and enthusiasm!
Aside from the deep and complex parts, WoW is not deep and complex. Jordster
There are only 2 types of goldsellers in these parts. Dead ones, and dead ones that don't know it yet... Dread Lörd Kaolian
Stop hanging out with morons. That's probably impossible though because there are tons of morons out there. Mentalfrog
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ohmikeghod the Venerable wrote:
How do you know what the reporters did or didn't do? Were you there?
I didn't state it as a matter of fact, I put it up as a question.
Anyway, I wouldn't put away the possibility he suicided. I know many emo wow players that get mad easily.
I still think a perma-ban would have been too harsh, but you are right about maybe having prior warnings.
Kazzak-EU
It's also possible he got a short term suspension along with a forced name change if the GM that dealt with it noticed a name violation, though I can't say for sure that would disappear from the armory right away.
Edit: Have you tried a forced URL lookup, Mike? I think those still show up on the armory for a while after a name change even when searching for a name doesn't have any results.
Edited, Sep 8th 2010 4:20am by Poldaran
Edit: Have you tried a forced URL lookup, Mike? I think those still show up on the armory for a while after a name change even when searching for a name doesn't have any results.
Edited, Sep 8th 2010 4:20am by Poldaran
That reminds me of rogue that spent his afternoon killing off the auctioneers in Stormwind and remain hidden until they respawned then kill them again. Wouldn't have been a big deal if he was doing that to provoke people into attacking but he was doing that to pull a **** move. Just like the guy on the mammoth. I watched him do it around five times before my Queue popped and when I came back he was no where to be found. Before the Queue popped I made sure to inform everyone in general chat who the rogue was, how to spell his name (had a ê in it), and to open a ticket to punish said person for their behavior.
While a perma-ban for this rogue and the person on the mammoth would be a fairly harsh punishment (under the assumption that it was a first time offense) a 72 hour ban seems more than reasonable.
While a perma-ban for this rogue and the person on the mammoth would be a fairly harsh punishment (under the assumption that it was a first time offense) a 72 hour ban seems more than reasonable.
#swaggerjacker
I hate those damn mammoth sitters. And what they choose to park their big butts on is not always targetable other than by clicking. (If there's another way to open mail than by clicking the box, someone tell me and I shall be happy to blush.) I mean honestly, how many times can they possibly continue thinking this is funny for? Do they still tell **** jokes and giggle?
I doubt the guy was permanently banned for it unless, as has already been said, this was the last in a long of offenses. But I wouldn't shed any tears if he was.
I doubt the guy was permanently banned for it unless, as has already been said, this was the last in a long of offenses. But I wouldn't shed any tears if he was.
Scroll your camera all the way in and enter the mammoth.
Edited, Sep 8th 2010 1:59pm by Mimickins
Edited, Sep 8th 2010 1:59pm by Mimickins
Or use a different mailbox (to teacakes concern on mailbox sitters) there's TONS of mailboxes throughout the capitals now to minimize the effects.. if one's covered just use another. I can't say for horde side but alliance... in SW there's a mailbox RIGHT outside the AH now, one at the base of the bank steps as always but to the right of them there's another and you trip over them on your way to the docks. I'm sure horde side is similar.
I had this problem with people on large mounts outside of IF at Steelgrill's Depot while doing the quest. As it was said, you can use the control + V to show namesplates to help. I would have loved for them to make those quests gnomes gigantic, to solve the problem. Invasion of the 50 ft gnomes /nod
EbanySalamonderiel wrote:
I am going to have to retrain my reflexes away from "Ohh shiny lights! EXORCISM!"
I am going to have to retrain my reflexes away from "Ohh shiny lights! EXORCISM!"
Mimickins wrote:
Scroll your camera all the way in and enter the mammoth.
Okay, you are awesome.
Gwenorgan wrote:
Or use a different mailbox (to teacakes concern on mailbox sitters) there's TONS of mailboxes throughout the capitals now to minimize the effects
Yeah, I agree that after they added all those mailboxes my once legitimate complaint was reduced to whiny QQ. It's just the principle of the thing. I don't like childish, nasty behavior unless it's on my own part.
teacake wrote:
I mean honestly, how many times can they possibly continue thinking this is funny for? Do they still tell **** jokes and giggle?
C'mon now, farts will always be funny!
That being said, unless it it was a long-time offender I can hardly imagine a person being banned, especially when it is as simple as shift+v and being able to see friendly nameplates. The guy was being a ****, no doubt about it (same as Mammoth mailboxers, etc), but a perma-ban is a bit much in my opinion.
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I'm going to buck the current and say perma ban is a fine choice:
There is a level of idiocy that needs to be terminated with extreme prejudice. The language quoted shows that he was deliberately trying to mess with folks trying for the achievement. You know those guys who think it is funny to ninja stuff? Yeah, same level of humor. He made a deliberate choice to act with malice and should pay the price.
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He's there bragging and taunting the group about how he's going to make sure very few get the achievement.
There is a level of idiocy that needs to be terminated with extreme prejudice. The language quoted shows that he was deliberately trying to mess with folks trying for the achievement. You know those guys who think it is funny to ninja stuff? Yeah, same level of humor. He made a deliberate choice to act with malice and should pay the price.
In Chinese: glasses are yanjing; eyes are yanjing, and the beer of Beijing is Yanjing. When speaking, the difference is in the tones. Did I just order a glass of beer or a glass of eyes?
Only on the Zam forums will you find a long time poster giving the advice to enter the mammoth. Reminds me of a scene from Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls involving a mechanical rhino, one freaky assed hairdo, some big teeth and the wonders of childbirth.
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devzzz wrote:
And all those reporters didn't have the brain do just target the name plate?
You just have to press V or was it control+V? Pretty simple.
I would be very amused, and sad, if blizzard actually would perma ban somebody for this. It's not like he cut off the one and only way they could target him...
Maybe a warning would have been in order, as I don't agree with what he did, but perma-ban?
You just have to press V or was it control+V? Pretty simple.
I would be very amused, and sad, if blizzard actually would perma ban somebody for this. It's not like he cut off the one and only way they could target him...
Maybe a warning would have been in order, as I don't agree with what he did, but perma-ban?
First of all, I was one of those without brains to think of using V or Control-V to display nameplates. I was around during the great pain in the *** that was Quel'Danas. People would do the same there, because due to lack of Sanctuary, it was an easy way to annoy people into accidentally right-clicking them (causing them to attack and get pwned by guards). I learned the nameplate trick there.
Second, it's in violation of the TOS (physical harassment) and cannot be remedied using in-game mechanics. That's enough for him to not be doing it and for me to report him. No, he doesn't get perma-banned for it, unless he's got too many strikes down already.
I don't care if someone gets perma-banned for it because it was his third strike. If he has two strikes already then he's obviously not new at being a jerk and should just GTFO.
Edited, Sep 8th 2010 4:45pm by Mazra
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
Also, just an FYI... Just hitting V will suffice. No need to hit control as well unless I'm special and I'm the only one that can hit V to show nameplates. =P
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xNocturnalSunx wrote:
Also, just an FYI... Just hitting V will suffice. No need to hit control as well unless I'm special and I'm the only one that can hit V to show nameplates. =P
Most pro players rebind V to something a little more useful.
Control-V shifts between showing friendly, enemy and all nameplates, and Shift-V displays/hides them. If I remember correctly.
Edited, Sep 8th 2010 4:53pm by Mazra
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
I agree with teacake in that it's the principle of the thing.
Just because there are ways to work around these people who are intentionally trying to make things difficult for other players doesn't mean that those people who are trying to grief shouldn't get some sort of punishment. People who repeatedly go out of their way to try to make routine actions in the game difficult for others should get the more severe punishments.
Sure the nameplate thing can help but when you have several mammoths and elekks on top of the npc, even the nameplate can get hidden. Zooming the camera in and wandering into the mass of bodies will also let you find that npc eventually if you know its approximate location. The thing is that people shouldn't be forced to use work-arounds to interact with npcs and other objects in the game because one or two people think it's 'funny' to park large mounts on them. The work-arounds aren't common knowledge and it's not like people who do know the tricks are going to be standing around trying to help out every new person who comes along and runs into the griefer.
Fortunately on my servers, I didn't run into any people who seemed to be intentionally blocking npcs. It was crowded in areas but the only stupidity I ran into was people messing around and getting the High Tinker guy to bug out during the event (took me two tries to get it done) and people spamming the emotes to the drill sergeant constantly instead of waiting for him to give the order (you have to do the emote right after he tells you to to get credit).
Just because there are ways to work around these people who are intentionally trying to make things difficult for other players doesn't mean that those people who are trying to grief shouldn't get some sort of punishment. People who repeatedly go out of their way to try to make routine actions in the game difficult for others should get the more severe punishments.
Sure the nameplate thing can help but when you have several mammoths and elekks on top of the npc, even the nameplate can get hidden. Zooming the camera in and wandering into the mass of bodies will also let you find that npc eventually if you know its approximate location. The thing is that people shouldn't be forced to use work-arounds to interact with npcs and other objects in the game because one or two people think it's 'funny' to park large mounts on them. The work-arounds aren't common knowledge and it's not like people who do know the tricks are going to be standing around trying to help out every new person who comes along and runs into the griefer.
Fortunately on my servers, I didn't run into any people who seemed to be intentionally blocking npcs. It was crowded in areas but the only stupidity I ran into was people messing around and getting the High Tinker guy to bug out during the event (took me two tries to get it done) and people spamming the emotes to the drill sergeant constantly instead of waiting for him to give the order (you have to do the emote right after he tells you to to get credit).
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Oh I certainly agree its the principle of the thing, nothing more annoying than a stack of them, for mailboxes specifically they added more boxes so you can still do stuff. But world events like the winterveil one when they all stack on the vendors in IF/quest givers... yeah. There should be a no mounts within X distance thing like automatically dismounts you when you enter buildings. Would help with some of it, or elevate the quest givers / tents so they stand taller than the tallest toons who will be interacting.
V = Enemy nameplates
Shift + V = Friendly nameplates
These are the default settings and can be changed under your key bindings interface.
People that still have issues with people standing on NPC's makes me sadface, as it is easily dealt with using built in game mechanics.
Now ANNOYING is when someone is sitting on a feast. I fixed that too by just bringing my own food, but jeebus I hate it when people do that.
Shift + V = Friendly nameplates
These are the default settings and can be changed under your key bindings interface.
People that still have issues with people standing on NPC's makes me sadface, as it is easily dealt with using built in game mechanics.
Now ANNOYING is when someone is sitting on a feast. I fixed that too by just bringing my own food, but jeebus I hate it when people do that.
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Personally, I like to Baby Spice those people. A big mammoth, like a sports car IRL, is just compensation for--ahem!--a shortcoming. Making their big hairy beast into a teeny tiny one hits them in the scarred parts of their psyches.
Plus, then everyone can see the mailbox/questgiver.
People who sit on fish feasts, I levitate.
Plus, then everyone can see the mailbox/questgiver.
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Now ANNOYING is when someone is sitting on a feast.
People who sit on fish feasts, I levitate.
Mazra wrote:
Most pro players rebind V to something a little more useful.
I'm not pro... we already know that =P
And thanks for the clarification. I guess I never really needed to do the whole shift-v thing since I had always just zoomed in when needed (like back in the day on the Isle with the daily quests... pain in the butt with a ton of people surrounding the questgiver and you can't find them to turn in your quest).
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Filterspawn wrote:
V = Enemy nameplates
Shift + V = Friendly nameplates
Shift + V = Friendly nameplates
For some reason, Control + V also toggles ALL nameplates on my end. Maybe I changed something somewhere.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
Filterspawn wrote:
Now ANNOYING is when someone is sitting on a feast.
I like to put my feasts on top of a nearby torch or other tall object that can't be jumped up on.
emmitsvenson wrote:
Personally, I like to Baby Spice those people. A big mammoth, like a sports car IRL, is just compensation for--ahem!--a shortcoming. Making their big hairy beast into a teeny tiny one hits them in the scarred parts of their psyches.
Plus, then everyone can see the mailbox/questgiver.
Plus, then everyone can see the mailbox/questgiver.
I'm going to have to start saving up my baby spice now! We have a couple on one of my servers who think it's hilarious to sit on the flight master in Dalaran. I can't imagine the appeal, honestly. Pretty boring to just sit around on your mount all night.
emmitsvenson wrote:
Blizzard IT people don't get paid $50k a month (or whatever) to make sure one guy in Bumblehump, Nebraska can kick a Murloc on Tuesday morning.
Filterspawn wrote:
V = Enemy nameplates
Now ANNOYING is when someone is sitting on a feast.
Now ANNOYING is when someone is sitting on a feast.
/e prepares a Fish Feast!
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