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#1 May 03 2010 at 9:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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Elune be naaru :\?

http://www.wow.com/2010/05/01/know-your-lore-tfh-edition-elune-is-a-naaru/

These guys arent ussually wrong..but this does seem questionable [both if its true and if its just speculation].

"photo taken in the temple of the moon"

ya when or what context? beta alpha omega? blizz provided, sneak peak, pre game test testing? what?

While the elune = naaru bit certainly worked to pull us into the article, the rest of it is philosophy on the naaru and the Holy Light. Which is interesting and well written.

Edited, May 3rd 2010 3:56pm by Tenjen
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#2 May 03 2010 at 10:06 AM Rating: Good
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Druids worship nature deities, Elune being the Moon.

I really don't want to dwell too much on the idea that Druids are worshiping one of those Naaru guys. Blizzard already messed up enough with the trans-dimensional space pirates story of The Burning Crusade. If they turn Elune into a bloody Naaru, I'm going to kill a dude.
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I was under the impression that Elune was in actuality Ysera. But I guess being a naaru isn't too far fetched considering how similar Tyrande's description of Elune's power is to say Uther or Turalyon's descriptions of the Holy Light. And Blizzard never did mention what Elune was in any of the books or quests.

If you keep thinking about it, the only deity-like beings tend to fall into one of 3 catagories. Titan, Old god, and Naaru.

It's possible Elune could be a Titan but Titans have always seemed neutral and more focused on the big picture than individual races. All they really care about is if the world gets too corrupted and if it is, they destroy it and move on. Not exactly the caring Goddess figure the Night Elves worship.

I think it's safe to say she isn't an old god.

So the only logical choice would be a Naaru. And it's likely, when dealing with a primitive people it approached them in a form they could relate to, for example a night elf. From there the old stories likely morphed into what we know today.

It does fit into the lore Blizzard built without them having to add an entire pantheon of deities. Since it's rather odd that only Night Elves and Tauren worship a 'god'. The other races either worship nature itself, titans, old gods, or the holy light(Naaru).

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#4 May 03 2010 at 11:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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WOW, that's a bombshell to lore. It all makes a twisted kind of sense. It makes me wonder how a windchime mated with a stag demi-god to have Cenarius. Also if Elune is NOT a true deity, then where did the demi-gods come from? Are they all children of Naaru as well?

My... my head hurts.
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Also, I'm wondering what the larger picture of the Tauren and the Naaru on the third page shows. If the camera went out to max distance, would we see the name An'she? Hmmmm!
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#6 May 03 2010 at 12:17 PM Rating: Good
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If Elune is a Naaru then we'll have to assume that Naaru are gods, or something close to it. Then why the hell are they getting pwned by mortals over and over again?
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Mazra wrote:
If Elune is a Naaru then we'll have to assume that Naaru are gods, or something close to it. Then why the hell are they getting pwned by mortals over and over again?


Well, the Burning Legion isn't exactly "mortal." And Kael'Thas is probably more than mortal too.

... besides Kure and M'uru, I can't think of other naaru getting pwned.
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I thought m'uru had sort of 'chosen' his fate.
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Well, the Burning Legion isn't exactly "mortal." And Kael'Thas is probably more than mortal too.

... besides Kure and M'uru, I can't think of other naaru getting pwned.


Kael is mortal, or was, until he died and stuff.

The whole 'Blood Knights capturing a Naaru to suck its power because they're vampire space pirates' theme, you know.

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again though, that seems to have been at least partially M'uru's choice.
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I was under the impression that Elune was in actuality Ysera. But I guess being a naaru isn't too far fetched considering how similar Tyrande's description of Elune's power is to say Uther or Turalyon's descriptions of the Holy Light. And Blizzard never did mention what Elune was in any of the books or quests.


That Elune/Ysera thing is a common lore misconception due to Malorne and Cenarius. Elune saves Malorne during the Great Hunt, and he fathers Cenarius. Then Malorne returns to earth and hooks up with Ysera, who is as caring and protective of Cenarius as if she were his real mother.
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m'uru allowed himself to be captured so set off the chain of events leading to the blood elf player factions redemption and reignite the sunwell.

plus he's gonna be back in a few hundred millennia, naaru go through a cycle like that naturally anyway.

ysera is not elune. seperate entities. That confusion mostly happened because of cenarius, ysera took care of cenarius, didnt give birth to him.

i assume E'lune will come into the picture somehow because of her lover boys return [malorn]

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Titan, Old god, and Naaru.


there are the eternals [who are the same as the ancients?]. Though they can die, they do eventually come back after an age. [same as the old gods and naaru, not sure about titans]

It could be interesting how thye manage to explain this if its true. It can work out well but theres a narrow gap for it and a wide gap for ***** ups [people are gonna go up in arms a lot either way unfortunately].

The article does very very well to explain the nature of the light and naaru. SO this does make sense [indeed] in an odd sense.

A moon light based naaru seperated from its brethren for eons. hmmm


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I'm mostly against the idea of Elune being E'lune (Naaru) because I always pictured her as a hot Night Elf kinda chick.

Edit: Someone doesn't like hot NE chicks. It makes my panda cub sad.

Edited, May 4th 2010 9:41am by Mazra
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that was shimmering in the back of my mind :#

the artwork i was thinking of is a bit more nsfw though than that one.

Edited, May 3rd 2010 7:17pm by Tenjen
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Mazra wrote:
I'm mostly against the idea of Elune being E'lune (Naaru) because I always pictured her as a hot Night Elf kinda chick.


Apparently that's just how the Night Elves picture her. She's actually described as being more insubstantial, made of the collective hopes and ideas of mortal folk, blah blah blah.

Or so says the article.
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I was under the impression that Elune was in actuality Ysera


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Many fans theorize that Elune and Ysera are the same being, since they are shown as entities that care for the lesser races with compassion. However, writer Richard A. Knaak has confirmed that they are NOT the same.


http://www.wowwiki.com/Ysera

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The two Naaru who "get owned" allowed it to be so, knowing that this was necessary for the greater good.

If M'uru had not allowed itself to get captured, there would be no Blood Elf Paladins, true. Kael'thas might not have risen to power as he did, but what about the Lich King? No Blood Elf Paladins, means fewer people wielding the light, means fewer people who could fight the Lich King's Armies later.

That's only a small example.
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If you keep thinking about it, the only deity-like beings tend to fall into one of 3 catagories. Titan, Old god, and Naaru.

Malorne? Ursol/Ursoc? The bird lady (Avian? Some **** like that) we're reviving? The pig god (Agegemnon?)
ANY of those ringing a bell?
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Therenody wrote:
If you keep thinking about it, the only deity-like beings tend to fall into one of 3 catagories. Titan, Old god, and Naaru.

Malorne? Ursol/Ursoc? The bird lady (Avian? Some sh*t like that) we're reviving? The pig god (Agegemnon?)
ANY of those ringing a bell?


I think they might fall into a souped-up demi-god status, but not true deities. Malorne is seemingly described as a super powerful being that helps intelligent life on Azeroth. Aviana is just a raven that Elune transformed... which lends credence to the idea that the Naaru can simply make demi-gods, being like gods themselves.

Edit: There is more credence to the idea of Troll Gods, the animal spirits, being gods. But even they can (and almost always do) die.

Edited, May 3rd 2010 4:02pm by LockeColeMA
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If you keep thinking about it, the only deity-like beings tend to fall into one of 3 catagories. Titan, Old god, and Naaru.

Malorne? Ursol/Ursoc? The bird lady (Avian? Some sh*t like that) we're reviving? The pig god (Agegemnon?)
ANY of those ringing a bell?


I didn't count them because like Locke said they fall into demigod status. Incredibly powerful but still can be killed.

Yes, Yes Naaru can be killed too but the two that were killed did it by choice. There's the difference.

Demigods can be killed against their will/wishes. Gods can only die if they choose to.

All of the Old gods are still very much alive. The players simply killed their physical manifestations. Aegwynn and Sargeras was the same story. She didn't kill him, she killed his avatar.
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Honestly, that entire article struck me as fans trying to cross the enormous plot hole Blizzard implemented with the Burning Crusade and, specifically, the Naaru.

I never liked the giant glowing wind chimes.
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#25 May 03 2010 at 5:16 PM Rating: Good
I attempt to disbelieve!!! D:

IF the picture is real, and IF they really do this, it's a pretty big revision of lore. I'm not sure how I'd feel about it. On one hand, Elune has always been a deity of the powers of nature, and involved with things such as Malorne and such. On the other, Elune was an anomoly that didn't really fit with the overarching lore of the WoW universe. She was basically the only deity of her kind. Unless she was a rogue titan or an old god (scythe of elune? nature=curse of flesh?) her existence nor origins didn't make much sense except that they needed something for the druids to follow.

Upon thinking about it, if they decide to go with it, I think I'm ok with it. The naaru are very powerful and it felt a little weird that such an immensely powerful and overwhelmingly good race would have such a minor role in WotLK. I'd be glad if they returned to play a more prominent role in Cataclysm.

Still though, if they do go with that, I wonder how they're going to explain why E'lune is so nature focused, is she a rogue naaru?

Also, are the naaru horrified by the Ashbringer? :P "Oh hey george, look at this sword this guy's wielding, it's made out of human".
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Stop validating it! I want my hot NE goddess!


If you pay her enough she'll look however you want ;)
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