The Overwhelming Power of StupidityFollow

Well, not exactly epic fail, since I think it was entirely intentional, but I ran a random DTK yesterday with a hunter who was wearing virtually nothing but level 60 epics. He did a whopping 864 dps over the course of the dungeon and answered any criticism with gems such as "Be kind to me" and "I just dinged 80".

Given that it was DTK nobody really minded that much and we completed it with no trouble at all, but he was clearly trying a bit of LFG trolling.

Mana Tombs is pretty much the IQ check of The Burning Crusade. It's a tough place to tank and heal, and the slightest bit of fail can make everything go south.

I recall one run in there where I, the healer, had to off-tank two mobs all the time because the tank didn't use any AOE attacks at all. He'd pick up one mob, the DPS one each and I'd get the rest through my healing aggro.

The tank was a Death Knight and when I complained, he answered with "ok i hit mor" and proceeded to toss down a Death & Decay where he stood before running off to engage another group. Basically nothing got hit by his DnD, so I moved onto it with my two adds and they went back to hitting him instead for a while, causing him to fold immediately through lack of tanking knowledge (don't let the mobs stand behind you), after which I went on with just tanking everything myself. He complained a bit about me not healing him, so I resurrected him and he ran, at half health and unbuffed, into another pack of mobs. Again he wasn't using any AOE attacks, so I told him to use Pestilence after he used Icy Touch and Plague Strike. He threw Icy Touch and Plague Strike on a mob and Pestilence on another.

I was trying to cut my jugular on a shard of broken mirror by now, but had little success getting anywhere with it. I checked his buffs and noticed he had Blood Presence on. After his second death, I told the group that I wasn't going to roll with this, apologized and left group.

Why didn't I just vote-kick him? Because it takes 30 minutes to find another tank at those levels (or it did, anyway), and I'd rather they had a shot at finishing the instance than me being the cause of 30-minutes of idleness, something that usually results in premature evacuation.

Edited, Mar 31st 2010 5:43pm by Mazra

We had a rogue show up in an Occy run this week with ridiculously low HP. The healer inspected him and he was wearing all level 75-80 greys. The healer told him to suit up properly or he'd get no heals. The rogue promptly dropped.

Wonder if the 30-minute Q-ban was worth the lulz he did not receive.



You queued for healer and DPS and got DPS? Balderdash, I say! 200+ runs as DPS or healer, and I've been picked as healer every single time. You must have great luck :)

Edited, Mar 31st 2010 12:03pm by FuriousJorge

No. If it was then progression would be slow. Like, super slow. Imagine having to wear the best gear to do the raids that drop the best gear. You'd basically not go anywhere.

You need decent gear to do heroics and good gear to raid (depending on the difficulty of the raid). Normal dungeons can pretty much be done without any armor on at all.

Edit: Too many 'basically' in that post. And Jorge gets bonus points for quoting Niels Bohr.

Edited, Mar 31st 2010 6:13pm by Mazra

I'm not sure this qualifies as stupidity, but it was annoying and unnecessary.



Received Pit of Saron as my random heroic on my DK this morning; group was well geared, and efficient, we plowed right along, even using the trick of mounting quickly and by-passing most of the mobs on the hill.



So, we engage Tyrannus, and all is going smoothly, in my opinion. I get marked several times during the fight, so my DPS isn't the greatest, but still a respectable 3K+ according to my meter. Tank and healer both die at conclusion, uncertain why; and the Mage in group pops his DPS meter to the group, and makes a smarmy comment about me sucking. I politely reply that according to my meter, I was 3rd, and that he should probably grow up. This of course elicits the response of "noob" " I'm 20, bet you're really young because you can't DPS with a facerolling class". I normally ignore such nonsense, but for some reason, it bothered me; the group was doing fine, there was no reason that I could see for e-peen waggling.


Anyways, I bit my "tongue" and said thank you to the rest of the group, and told Mr. Mage to please get some maturity training....I know, not very mature myself.

Conclusion: a lot of people are pretty stupid, though also a number of people are decently enough to run heroics with. Some people are even smart.

I wish I had any proper anecdotes to share regarding the matter - it does sound quite bland like that.

Am I the only one who finds irony here?


Teasing aside...

Not sure it was trolling, but rather a group of friends who were idiots. Trolling implies they were intentionally ******** with you whereas them being idiots would mean they honestly thought you should two heal it. What most don't understand when they suggest two healing is that you reduce your DPS to two people...meaning mobs stay alive longer which depending on their abilities could be more dangerous than 3 dps rocking them down.

A few tips about mana-tombs...

1) Wyrms - as tempting as it is DO NOT AOE THEM DOWN! They explode when they die. All of them dying at once will likely kill you. Single target them down one at a time. This makes it far more manageable.

2) Interrupt the Priests...they heal.

3) Whenever a darkcaster is in a party IT DIES FIRST. They put a DoT that does 1000 damage a tick (most DPS at this level has between 3 and 5k health so a few seconds and they are dead. They also do a NASTY mana burn which will wipe out most of even a well geared healer's mana.

4) Final boss is killer. Keep a ranged on orbs and do whatever you can to mitigate the bosses spells whether its a shield or spell reflect.


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As for trolling I've witnessed it a few times. The worst one was a paladin tank who queued, aggrod the entire first hallway of DTK with us in toew then left the party immediately dropping aggro, zoning out, and leaving the mobs to maul all of us following him thinking he was doing an overly ambitious AoE pull...not cool.

Edited, Mar 31st 2010 7:03pm by ekaterinodar

As a new Warrior tank I've meet my fail share of tards. It is usually the DPS, and 9 out of 10 times it is either a Hunter or a Warlock.
Warlock using Void Walker..not turning it off to not taunt (well just using the Void Walker in the 1st place inside a group..). Hunter not turning taunt off with his pet. I know I swap targets fast, but they seem to "focus fire" targets I didn't even click on. Pets not set to follow and be on passive.
Ya'know, stuff that makes huntard and tardlocks have meaning.

BUT

I'm bad at not watching MP, and pulling big *** groups when the healer as like 10% MP.

Or like today, I ran H.CoS for my frost and did the entire run wondering why I could not get over 3k DPS.... I had on my fishing gloves (a pair of like lv47 gloves that just looked neat, so I have + fishing skill on them) and only one Axe equipped (Frost DW DK).
<.<
No one either cared or noticed.


I just left a group not too long ago (tanking is fun, I find it easy..but at the same time it is crazy) with both a hunter and a lock that only AoE and then got all lippy with me not holding hate. The healer was a Druid, after each group he would change into Cat form, and then QQ when I pulled and he had 10% or less MP "MAN I"M OOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!"...
due. I can't see that when all I see is an Energy bar...

The other day he was complaining to the OOT that we had been rating him down here.

On the other hand, very few classes can actually reliably do this right. If the mob only has one school, one interrupt will leave him hitting you which is usually a thing to avoid as it can give the healer a lot of stress. If it has two or more schools, the only class who can reliably interrupt all damage the mob can pump out while still killing it (read: sheep as interrupt doesn't count) is a rogue, who can use his stuns and gouge. And even then his job gets a lot harder if he's using deadly poison.

Not saying it can't be done or that it isn't always an annoyance, but simply very few classes can reliably 'solo' a heroic instance mob without taking heaploads of damage themselves or having to use CCs that either A) make the mob aggro more mobs (fear) or B) render the DPS unable to kill the target because they can't break the CC/the CC heals the mob (shackle undead/sheep).

Seriously?