I did some talking and pulled in some favours and I get to stop raiding till Ulduar comes out.
I never want to see T7 again. Warhammer account re-activated while I wait
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bodhisattva wrote:
I did some talking and pulled in some favours and I get to stop raiding till Ulduar comes out.
I never want to see T7 again. Warhammer account re-activated while I wait
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I never want to see T7 again. Warhammer account re-activated while I wait
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Umm, you couldn't stop before? WoW is a game you know, not a 2nd [or 3rd] job.
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The obligations of being an officer in top ranked alliance guild on server and main holy paladin. I could flake out and not play, but I'd be leaving 24 people high and dry.
I was at the point with WoW where I was having no fun, more so than when I played FFXI and knew I was going to leave. Rather set something up that works than leave and force a ret pally to dust off his offset and heal while they find a replacement.
I was at the point with WoW where I was having no fun, more so than when I played FFXI and knew I was going to leave. Rather set something up that works than leave and force a ret pally to dust off his offset and heal while they find a replacement.
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Umm, you couldn't stop before? WoW is a game you know, not a 2nd [or 3rd] job.
Bodi all ready answered but he was being responsible towards his guild mates.
It would be similar to a key player of a recreational bowling team abruptly stopping with telling anyone, then when the finals came around demanding his place back on the team.
I went bowling as it seemed more Canadian.
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Drinking at home. But I could probably stand to get laid.
More Wisconsin, not more Canadian.
Hopefully Ulduar when it goes live is a completely different beast in almost all aspects than what it is now on the PTR. It sucks cause I really enjoyed TBC, did alright for myself and put a lot of time into my toon, nerded out with some cool people and wasted some free time. I just think Wotlk has been pretty lame so far, but it sucks to just ditch a toon and say goodbye because blizzard changed their design philosophy and made one aspect of the game and it doesn't agree with me.
Oh well, just a video game.
Hopefully Ulduar when it goes live is a completely different beast in almost all aspects than what it is now on the PTR. It sucks cause I really enjoyed TBC, did alright for myself and put a lot of time into my toon, nerded out with some cool people and wasted some free time. I just think Wotlk has been pretty lame so far, but it sucks to just ditch a toon and say goodbye because blizzard changed their design philosophy and made one aspect of the game and it doesn't agree with me.
Oh well, just a video game.
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More Canadian would be something like pulling the home team goalie and not telling anyone.
So where you playing on Warhammer?
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Bodi all ready answered
No, Bodi answered AFTER this guy asked his question, not before - look at the order of the postings and the time/date stamps. ;-)
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The obligations of being an officer in top ranked alliance guild on server and main holy paladin.
So if this is a top ranked guild then obviously you guys must have multiple healers and more then one holy paladin, right? Its not like your top ranked guild is incapable of pulling off a raid without you personally being at every one of 'em because its top ranked, right?
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I could flake out and not play, but I'd be leaving 24 people high and dry.
If your guild is top ranked then you've got the raids on farm by now - alts are coming in to get geared up so its not like it matters if an officer isn't on every single raid, heck, you guys should be practically pugging them within the guild by now, that is, if you're a top ranked guild.
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Bodi all ready answered
No, Bodi answered AFTER this guy asked his question, not before - look at the order of the postings and the time/date stamps. ;-)
Bodi already answered so that Horsemouth didn't have to, not that he answered before anyone else.
I don't see why you have only stopped raiding now if you have wanted to before, as Rustle said all the raids, bar maybe 3D can be eaislly pugged even on the worst of PvE server **cough** Steamwheedle Cartel **cough**
With that said, It is nice to take a break from the repetitiveness of raiding.
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rusttle wrote:
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Bodi all ready answered
No, Bodi answered AFTER this guy asked his question, not before - look at the order of the postings and the time/date stamps. ;-)
You idiot, he meant bodhi answered the question already but he is also going to answer it.
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The obligations of being an officer in top ranked alliance guild on server and main holy paladin.
So if this is a top ranked guild then obviously you guys must have multiple healers and more then one holy paladin, right? Its not like your top ranked guild is incapable of pulling off a raid without you personally being at every one of 'em because its top ranked, right?
We have a raid roster of 29 players at the moment. Yes, losing someone can hurt, especially when you play on a scrub server in a scrub BG like Bodhi does.
Could you clear the content with 2 tanks, one guy for Replenishment and 22 Holy Priests? Yeah, you could. It'd still be leaving your guild members in the lurch to force them to replace a healer.
Edited, Mar 12th 2009 1:28am by RPZip
His Excellency ThePizzaKing wrote:
More Canadian would be something like pulling the home team goalie and not telling anyone.
Personally, I would have made a joke about curling.
Edit: Aww, some poor widdle Canadian must have gotten his feelers hurt.
Edited, Mar 12th 2009 1:39am by Poldaran
bodhisattva wrote:
More Wisconsin, not more Canadian.
Hopefully Ulduar when it goes live is a completely different beast in almost all aspects than what it is now on the PTR. It sucks cause I really enjoyed TBC, did alright for myself and put a lot of time into my toon, nerded out with some cool people and wasted some free time. I just think Wotlk has been pretty lame so far, but it sucks to just ditch a toon and say goodbye because blizzard changed their design philosophy and made one aspect of the game and it doesn't agree with me.
Oh well, just a video game.
Hopefully Ulduar when it goes live is a completely different beast in almost all aspects than what it is now on the PTR. It sucks cause I really enjoyed TBC, did alright for myself and put a lot of time into my toon, nerded out with some cool people and wasted some free time. I just think Wotlk has been pretty lame so far, but it sucks to just ditch a toon and say goodbye because blizzard changed their design philosophy and made one aspect of the game and it doesn't agree with me.
Oh well, just a video game.
Actually, "Beer Ball" is the native sport of Wisconsin, not bowling. Its a combination of softball and beer drinking and can be played all year long as long as the keg doesn't freeze. No more beer = game over.
bodhisattva wrote:
I did some talking and pulled in some favours and I get to stop raiding till Ulduar comes out.
I never want to see T7 again. Warhammer account re-activated while I wait
/cheer!
I never want to see T7 again. Warhammer account re-activated while I wait
/cheer!
Warhammer< Wow, same kind of game. Play AoC, at least you can see boobies
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I sorta know this feeling... my guild is stuck with 10-mans right now, as we haven't been successful recruiting for 25-mans. About half of our A-Team has either left or is busy with real life, so replacements simply don't exist right now. I am still leading EVERY raid we do, and since two of the people no longer raiding with us were tanks, we basically have no replacements (actually, our guild leader has sidelined his warlock to use a warrior alt as an OT).
End result is that I'm stuck in Naxxramas 2-4 nights a week, depending on how fast we clear it and if we try to put together a 25-man. It's painful and really causes burn-out.
I'm looking forward to Ulduar just to have something new to try. I'm hoping we can actually do the encounters in current 10-man gear, though.
End result is that I'm stuck in Naxxramas 2-4 nights a week, depending on how fast we clear it and if we try to put together a 25-man. It's painful and really causes burn-out.
I'm looking forward to Ulduar just to have something new to try. I'm hoping we can actually do the encounters in current 10-man gear, though.
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I have a very strong suspicion that T7 (10-man gear) is going to be more than adequate for Uludar T8 (10-man).
The intent of Blizz is to allow guilds that can only field 10-man raids continue to see more 10-man content, so requiring T7.5 gear to be able to do 10-man Ulduar wouldn't make any sense.
I am sure if you have T7.5 gear you will have an advantage over T7-geared people, but having "only" T7 ain't gonna kill ya.
The intent of Blizz is to allow guilds that can only field 10-man raids continue to see more 10-man content, so requiring T7.5 gear to be able to do 10-man Ulduar wouldn't make any sense.
I am sure if you have T7.5 gear you will have an advantage over T7-geared people, but having "only" T7 ain't gonna kill ya.
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War is dull monotonous and grindy after about level 12. You will be back in 2 weeks after you play every toon through the fun part of the game. Ohh and if you think WoW players are terribad wait until you see WAR pugs try and take a keep lord in T2 that happens to have a couple adds. Or a keeplord that "Gasp!" AoE's in Elf land.
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RPZip wrote:
rusttle wrote:
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Bodi all ready answered
No, Bodi answered AFTER this guy asked his question, not before - look at the order of the postings and the time/date stamps. ;-)
You idiot, he meant bodhi answered the question already but he is also going to answer it.
Well I loled, then /facepalm. Was a good laugh this morning though.
LockeColeMA wrote:
I sorta know this feeling... my guild is stuck with 10-mans right now, as we haven't been successful recruiting for 25-mans. About half of our A-Team has either left or is busy with real life, so replacements simply don't exist right now. I am still leading EVERY raid we do, and since two of the people no longer raiding with us were tanks, we basically have no replacements (actually, our guild leader has sidelined his warlock to use a warrior alt as an OT).
End result is that I'm stuck in Naxxramas 2-4 nights a week, depending on how fast we clear it and if we try to put together a 25-man. It's painful and really causes burn-out.
I'm looking forward to Ulduar just to have something new to try. I'm hoping we can actually do the encounters in current 10-man gear, though.
End result is that I'm stuck in Naxxramas 2-4 nights a week, depending on how fast we clear it and if we try to put together a 25-man. It's painful and really causes burn-out.
I'm looking forward to Ulduar just to have something new to try. I'm hoping we can actually do the encounters in current 10-man gear, though.
That sucks if you have to spend more than 1 night (2 at max) in Naxx.
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Horsemouth wrote:
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Umm, you couldn't stop before? WoW is a game you know, not a 2nd [or 3rd] job.
Bodi all ready answered but he was being responsible towards his guild mates.
It would be similar to a key player of a recreational bowling team abruptly stopping with telling anyone, then when the finals came around demanding his place back on the team.
I went bowling as it seemed more Canadian.
I must say I don't really agree. Since WOTLK raiding is so easy and being he is on one of the top guilds I find it hard to believe they can't find someone else to take his place. After all this is a videogame, a really easy videogame depending on who you ask.
On a bowling team you sign up to play the whole season. There is a starting date and an ending date. WoW raiding is all the time. They can't honestly think that you will be there every raid until everyone has the last piece of gear they will need. I think that is asking a little to much.
Cunk wrote:
On a bowling team you sign up to play the whole season. There is a starting date and an ending date. WoW raiding is all the time. They can't honestly think that you will be there every raid until everyone has the last piece of gear they will need. I think that is asking a little to much.
They do expect it, as that's pretty much the foundation of a hardcore raiding guild - an extremely reliable player base. When you're clearing all end game content in one night there's even less of an excuse for a core member to go AWOL, so making this kind of arrangement is necessary.
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LockeColeMA wrote:
I sorta know this feeling... my guild is stuck with 10-mans right now, as we haven't been successful recruiting for 25-mans. About half of our A-Team has either left or is busy with real life, so replacements simply don't exist right now. I am still leading EVERY raid we do, and since two of the people no longer raiding with us were tanks, we basically have no replacements (actually, our guild leader has sidelined his warlock to use a warrior alt as an OT).
End result is that I'm stuck in Naxxramas 2-4 nights a week, depending on how fast we clear it and if we try to put together a 25-man. It's painful and really causes burn-out.
I'm looking forward to Ulduar just to have something new to try. I'm hoping we can actually do the encounters in current 10-man gear, though.
End result is that I'm stuck in Naxxramas 2-4 nights a week, depending on how fast we clear it and if we try to put together a 25-man. It's painful and really causes burn-out.
I'm looking forward to Ulduar just to have something new to try. I'm hoping we can actually do the encounters in current 10-man gear, though.
That sucks if you have to spend more than 1 night (2 at max) in Naxx.
We usually do 3 wings on Tuesday, then OS-10 and the rest on Wednesday. Sometimes people won't log on for Wednesday's (like this week), so we do it Thursday instead. Once when this happened we didn't have great healers for KT and had to hold off until Monday to finish him.
The problem is that our A-Team has fallen apart; 4 members have real life conflicts interfering with play time until summer, and 3 others left after a dispute. As a result we have 3 members of the original team, one who can only make an hour an a half of a run, and then all new/untested guildies. It's frustrating to be able to down KT three weeks in a row but now have problems on 4H or Grobb. We'll finish it up tonight, but it will take at least an hour to an hour and a half longer than it should.
Malygos is still a distant dream. Until our DPS can do over 2k (and right now, maybe half of them can do that) we're not even looking at it. Our 4 A-Teamers are a tank, DPS, and two healers. The DPS we lost all did 2.5-3.3k each consistently.
Sorry for rambling. Yes, it sucks.
Edited, Mar 12th 2009 11:38am by LockeColeMA
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Alestian wrote:
They do expect it, as that's pretty much the foundation of a hardcore raiding guild - an extremely reliable player base. When you're clearing all end game content in one night there's even less of an excuse for a core member to go AWOL, so making this kind of arrangement is necessary.
Yeah I guess you are right. I joined a hardcore raiding guild about a year ago. I couldn't keep up with them every night and accomplish everything I needed to in RL so I had to leave.
I just feel that if you are not having fun anymore you should really take a break. WoW is supposed to be fun. Something to do when you want to relax and kill some time. I guess that is the line between casual and hardcore.
Cunk wrote:
I just feel that if you are not having fun anymore you should really take a break. WoW is supposed to be fun. Something to do when you want to relax and kill some time. I guess that is the line between casual and hardcore.
I think I'd agree with this. There are things I'd like to do in WoW, and they don't include raiding. The reason I raid now is for my friends, not for myself. I guess when you stop doing things for yourself it becomes more hardcore than casual. It's still fun, but not as fun :-P
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See, none of you guys have fun just raiding with your guild? You're all doing it wrong.
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10/14/2008 The day that raiding died:
3/11/2009 The day that we can (at least temporarily) sing:
Bye-bye Mr. Bohdi-pie
Rode your Charger to the raid but the raid was dry
Then good ole Dwarves were drinking whiskey and rye (wait... not BEER! SOMETHING'S WRONG!)
Singin' this will be the day the raid died.
I just couldn't resist that for some strange reason....
Edited, Mar 12th 2009 12:05pm by jeromesimina
3/11/2009 The day that we can (at least temporarily) sing:
Bye-bye Mr. Bohdi-pie
Rode your Charger to the raid but the raid was dry
Then good ole Dwarves were drinking whiskey and rye (wait... not BEER! SOMETHING'S WRONG!)
Singin' this will be the day the raid died.
I just couldn't resist that for some strange reason....
Edited, Mar 12th 2009 12:05pm by jeromesimina
"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of Wisdom"-- Gandalf
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Cunk wrote:
[quote=Alestian]
I just feel that if you are not having fun anymore you should really take a break. WoW is supposed to be fun. Something to do when you want to relax and kill some time. I guess that is the line between casual and hardcore.
I just feel that if you are not having fun anymore you should really take a break. WoW is supposed to be fun. Something to do when you want to relax and kill some time. I guess that is the line between casual and hardcore.
Which is fine, but that wasn't the issue Bodhi had with leaving.
He knew he would want to come back to WoW when Ulduar is released to raid and clear it on Hard mode ASAP. If you just up an leave because you are bored, in a hardcore raiding guild, when you come back you won't even be in the guild anymore, much less be the first in line for the Ulduar raids.
On top of that being an officer in the guild, you do have obligations to the guild that the regular raider doesn't have. Often times, those obligations aren't fun, but you do them anyway because you took on that responsibility when you agreed to be an officer.
If you just up and leave without a word, not only will you lose your spot in the raiding hierarchy, but you also lose any credibility you have as a player. And if you are planning to come back when Ulduar is released, that isn't exactly the situation you want to be in, if you want to be one of the firsts to clear the content.
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