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#1 Jan 20 2009 at 5:45 PM Rating: Default
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So, I decide to take advantage of the fact that you get full rep for gray mobs now by grinding ogres at Laughing Skull Ruins to finish off my Kurenei rep so that I can get my 49th and 50th mounts.

No sooner do I land and kill my first ogre when a khorium vein pops up before my eyes. Now, I realize that khorium veins are generally 2 strokes, sometimes 3, very rarely 4. But NEVER in the 2+ years since BC came out have I encountered only 1 stroke/ore from a khorium vein that no one else has touched. If this vein were to give the same amount of ore as before, in a single stroke, I should have gotten at least two ore, possibly three, MAYBE (but not likely) four.

Three motes of earth, five motes of fire, and a garnet gem. That's all fine and dandy, seems to be just about perfect for a khorium vein, right?

And one single solitary ore. Only one.

I have suspected all along that this change to mining would ultimately drop the amount of ore being mined, no matter what Blizzard claimed, and it looks like I was right.

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#2 Jan 20 2009 at 5:58 PM Rating: Good
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I've been on for about... 45 minutes now? Mined 3 cobalt nodes... think I got 2 from one of them, 3 ores from the other. Haven't really noticed much of a decrease so far... *shrugs*
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#3 Jan 20 2009 at 6:08 PM Rating: Good
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I have not had a chance to get on yet today, I am really hoping the OP just had really bad luck on that vein.
#4 Jan 20 2009 at 6:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Same here. I saw a khorium vein, hit it and got one ore. But I did get a star of elune too which was nice. I just hope the titanium veins aren't the same way. They're enough of a pain to find and hit as it is. It would be even worse if you only get one ore per node now.
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Klagoth wrote:
I have not had a chance to get on yet today, I am really hoping the OP just had really bad luck on that vein.


I'm hoping so too. But seriously--I have never encountered a vein of anything that only gave one ore (unless someone else had tapped it, of course.) So the fact that there is even a possibility that we can get a single ore from the "new & improved" mining system means there has, in fact, been a change made to the amount of ore you get. It wasn't possible to get only one ore before, it is now. The fact that a change has been made is thus indisputable, unless it was a bug.

However, maybe it's being balanced out at the high end. To use my original example, maybe khorium veins now also have an increased chance to give 4 ore to balance out the fact that they now have a chance of giving only one. Maybe, but I doubt it.
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#6 Jan 20 2009 at 6:17 PM Rating: Good
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From the sounds of it, they made it just like herbalism. Having a chance between 1 and 3 per node, plus extra junk. I have yet to mine any today, with the world server shutting down every 10 minutes and all.
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jpaugh the Braindead wrote:
From the sounds of it, they made it just like herbalism. Having a chance between 1 and 3 per node, plus extra junk. I have yet to mine any today, with the world server shutting down every 10 minutes and all.


If that's the case, then the amount of ore available will definitely decrease, because in regular veins it has always been 2-4 ore in each vein, not 1-3, and in rich veins, 5-7 (not sure if I have ever gotten 8, but I think it might be possible.)
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jpaugh the Braindead wrote:
From the sounds of it, they made it just like herbalism. Having a chance between 1 and 3 per node, plus extra junk. I have yet to mine any today, with the world server shutting down every 10 minutes and all.


If that's the case, then the amount of ore available will definitely decrease, because in regular veins it has always been 2-4 ore in each vein, not 1-3, and in rich veins, 5-7 (not sure if I have ever gotten 8, but I think it might be possible.)


Well, being that there are different levels of mining nodes, i'm sure it won't be exactly like herbalism. Maybe the normals have 1-3 and the rich/titanium have more.
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#9 Jan 20 2009 at 6:38 PM Rating: Good
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jpaugh the Braindead wrote:
Well, being that there are different levels of mining nodes, i'm sure it won't be exactly like herbalism. Maybe the normals have 1-3 and the rich/titanium have more.

Nah. I hit a Saronite deposit about 10 mins ago and it coughed up four pieces of ore. It was a regular one too, not a rich.

I've gotten one ore before on I think it was a mithril one? Maybe cobalt... don't quite remember. It is possible that it was previously tapped before, but I can't say for sure.
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#10 Jan 20 2009 at 6:40 PM Rating: Decent
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maybe it's 1 to 4. I haven't tested yet with my pally. 1 def is bad as it was 2 to 4. and herbs was 1 to 3.
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#11 Jan 20 2009 at 6:42 PM Rating: Decent
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From the sounds of it, they made it just like herbalism. Having a chance between 1 and 3 per node, plus extra junk. I have yet to mine any today, with the world server shutting down every 10 minutes and all.


Mining nodes have never been 1 tap, it's always been 2-4 for a normal node, then 4-8 for a rich node.

Players were told they would recieve the same amount of ore from this change. Only difference is you collect it all in 1 tap instead of 2-8 taps.



How the OP only got 1 piece of ore from a vein, I have no idea.
#12 Jan 20 2009 at 6:53 PM Rating: Decent
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I have gotten one ore from a node before. It sucks but it does happen.
#13 Jan 20 2009 at 7:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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I hit some Saronite in Storm Peaks just after my realm came up. Three regular and one rich, and got decent amounts from them all. I was quite pleased and can't wait to get out and hit some more!
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#14 Jan 20 2009 at 7:12 PM Rating: Decent
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I've gotten one hit out of a mining node before. In fact it was even in BC. It wasn't tapped by anyone because I watched it spawn. It was rare and it could have been a bug but it has happened to me long before wotlk.

One node is hardly conclusive. Mine more. If it's still an issue then bring it up.
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I adore the change. Not because of camper problems, but because if I get full, I don't have to drop items to make room for the Stone items just to drop them over and over. Now I can grab just the motes/ore.

Good job Blizz :D I like it!
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#16 Jan 20 2009 at 8:24 PM Rating: Decent
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to those that QQ.

they never actually said "YOU WILL GET EXACTLY THE SAME"

they actually stated that "You will get ABOUT the same" meaning it will even out(ish) over time.


Yes it is different. But think about how much wasted time you are saving from needing to re-pick up to 7/8 times on a rich vein.
#17 Jan 20 2009 at 9:59 PM Rating: Decent
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8 stacks of Saronite, 8 titanium ore, and a large number of eternals over the course of 1 hour today. Slightly less/node or no, that's pretty sweet.
#18 Jan 20 2009 at 10:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Also, both of the people reporting this problem are using the same vein type...could it be they missed updating the khorium veins correctly?
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#19 Jan 20 2009 at 11:11 PM Rating: Good
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Please don't tell me you're basing your viewpoint on ONE NODE?

Try a few hundred and average them.
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#20 Jan 20 2009 at 11:36 PM Rating: Good
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I have suspected all along that this change to mining would ultimately drop the amount of ore being mined, no matter what Blizzard claimed, and it looks like I was right.


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Please don't tell me you're basing your viewpoint on ONE NODE?


This.
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#21 Jan 20 2009 at 11:52 PM Rating: Decent
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The ones I have hit have given at least 2+ I have hit about 3 old world 2 BC and 3 WOTLK.
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#22 Jan 21 2009 at 1:22 AM Rating: Good
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I've gotten a handful of veins in the past that only had one stroke on them. It's very possible that it's just a glitch. Personally, in the mining I've been doing today, I've gotten mostly sets of 4, with only one or two sets of 2 or 3. Maybe I'm just lucky so far. Either way, you shouldn't base your assessment on just one unlucky node.
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#23 Jan 21 2009 at 3:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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I get 1 veins every now and then, they're not unheard of. This is more QQ for the sake of more QQ.
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yer looking at it in the wrong light.

Herbalism, ever since wow came out, has given us anywhere between 1 and 4 herbs per hit, depending on the herb you are gathering. Now that mining is identical to herbalism in gathering style, it's only natural that we may get only 1 ore out of it.

Now, i'm not saying that rare-spawn nodes should give 1 ore, that's ridiculous. 2 minimum is good in my opinion. But maybe blizzard has some reason in their madness. who knows? and if they dont, maybe they will read this thread and change it.
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#25 Jan 21 2009 at 5:01 AM Rating: Good
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I went mining today after maintance for like one hour. It always was 2-4, and in rich veins 4-7 ores from saronite nodes. Titanium nodes gave me 2-4 ores.

Beside, how often you can get 1 ore from 1 node? Honestly I always got at least 2 ores (if no one touched that node before of course).
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I hit 3 titanium nodes shortly after logging on and got 4 titanium per node, didn't get any gems from the nodes but I did get 2 eternal shadow and 2 eternal earth (from the crystallized versions of each that dropped off the node). Didn't really spend much time mining but seemed fine, possibly better to me.
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