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#1 Jan 11 2009 at 6:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I wanted to take up skinning and LW for a character of mine. But I was curious as to how profitable selling spare leather is. I was thinking of doing skinning and herbalism then dropping herbalism. But I was looking at the armor progression and I like it a lot so I want to start LW as soon as possible. My other toon is a miner, so I can do copper runs for extra gold. Just wanted some opinions, thanks.
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#2 Jan 11 2009 at 6:54 AM Rating: Good
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This is just my opinion, and of course there are differences from server to server. If you are going to be a LW, I'd say definitely take up skinning. If you are doing it solely for profit, I would find something else.

While I think the high level leather stuff sells well, the low level leather doesn't do as well as it used to.

You may be able to make a few sales a week on Medium or Heavy leather, but I wouldn't take it if you're looking to make lots of cash.
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#3 Jan 11 2009 at 7:21 AM Rating: Decent
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I have a toon who has both skinning and mining at 375+. All my gold comes from mining. If you are looking for gold, stick with mining, or take up herbalism.
#4 Jan 11 2009 at 8:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Mining makes all the money in WoW now thanks to Titansteel from WotLK but skinning has it's own rewards. Each profession plays a role now, well at least gathering wise. If you make a skinner your crits are going to go up a bit which is good for DPS and i guess casters haven't exactly experimented with this. Herbalism now gives the ability to heal yourself like a Draenei except it doesn't scale with your level, so this would be effective for just about anyone who gets in a pinch. Mining gives you an HP boost which is good for tanks mostly. I haven't done this will all the professions just those three as they are the main gathering professions. I'm sure enchanting has one as well.

But it's not just those professions, Alchemy gives Alchemists a boost when using potions, which is rather nice topped off with an alchemist stone trinket etc.
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#5 Jan 11 2009 at 9:09 AM Rating: Good
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Etxra leather? If you are planning on leveling up leatherworking, don't bank on having a ton of extra leather. Crafting professions take a large amount of materials. After the basic low level stuff, you will spending time farming leather simply to try and keep your LW skill up.

Crafting professions are also money sinks. Very little of what you make will actually sell on the auction house. You can make a lot of items that you end up vendoring to barely recover the cost of the simple mats like thread.

Another thing to consider... particularly before Outlands, you'll have a hard time keeping your crafting skill high enough to make items that work for your level. For instance, you may want to make some level 30 piece of leather for your leve l30 character, but find that the materials you need require you to kill level 35+ monsters. It's tough to stay on top of crafting to actually make things at your level. The reality is your level 30 character will probably be crafting stuff in the low 20s.
#6 Jan 11 2009 at 9:20 AM Rating: Good
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I'm making about 7g50s per stack of Borean Leather atm. Arctic Fur(which is a lot more common than I expected) goes for 50g per. I don't remember what I sold that one Nerubian Chitin I got for(got it while doing an early quest), but I figured that it'd be profitable.

Though, as said by others, real money's in mining and herbing right now. I took up skinning on my DK solely for the crit.
#7 Jan 11 2009 at 10:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm making about 7g50s per stack of Borean Leather atm. Arctic Fur(which is a lot more common than I expected) goes for 50g per. I don't remember what I sold that one Nerubian Chitin I got for(got it while doing an early quest), but I figured that it'd be profitable.

Though, as said by others, real money's in mining and herbing right now. I took up skinning on my DK solely for the crit.


I'm going to go off Poldaran's post, for my main is a Skinner and Enchanter (but I also have a Skinner and a LW).

Almost all skins below WotlK on my realm has taken a noise dive. I use to make some quick cash off the Clefthoolf (sp) Hides in Nagard. I sold a stack for 10g when stacks use to go for much much more.

All my gold from skinning atm is coming from the skins I get in North.

Borean Leather goes for 5-10 gold, Arctic Fur (I'm not selling, saving, I"m sure my hunter will need some at some point for something) goes for 50-80+g each, and Nerubian Chitin can have a wide range for 7-10+ gold each, to 200+gold for a stack (i usually sell in stacks, halves, or quarter[5's]).

Thick and Rugged (old world) skins may still sell for an ok price still due to one of the 2 (i don't remember) being the a tad harder to get.

And I never really made any gold off the skins in TBC ('cept the Clefthoolf [sp] hides)


Now my toon who is a Skinner and a LW makes no gold (due to the LW level). You are usually turning old skins into the next tier ones, to use to level up skinning. You never really have any spare to sell off. You either skin for LW skill up, or to sell. I'm thinking of dropping the LWing because I don't use it as much as I thought I would. I have no problem getting the skins, so therefore I could just find a LW to do the work for me (I know there are some BoP items to make that would be nice, but nothing I think i NEED).


Skinning is still a good profession to take up, you fight so many mobs that can be skinned. Its free money right there. You either sell it to a NPC or on the AH, but you make money. Team it up with another gathering profession and you should never have to worry about actually needing to farm for gold.
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#8 Jan 11 2009 at 10:44 AM Rating: Decent
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I have a 450skinner and 450miner and honestly I can make more in 5minutes with mining then I can in an hour of killing and skinning. I'm pretty sure as soon as I finish maxing out Enchanting that I will be dropping Skinning and picking up another primary profession. If you want to make out LW then most definently keep it as it will save you a ton of money over the whole process. If you wanna do skinning only because of profit you're better off doing something else.
#9 Jan 11 2009 at 11:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Skinning is all about quantity and not quality. The real money comes from when you can put stacks upon stacks up on auction house. Not only does killing beasts yield skins, but alot of greens and the occasinal blue as well plus all the vendor trash. I make a ton of money skinning, probably as much as my herber.
#10 Jan 11 2009 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm finding that on Moon Guard, mining ain't really all that it is cracked up to be, to be honest.

Right now, Saronite Ore is selling for less than 20g per stack, hovering around 18g. It takes over 1g to list, so if it doesn't sell, you're out some money. Saronite Bars are even worse, they are hovering around 30g last I checked. That's 15g per stack of Saronite Ore, and the listing fee is even higher.

Titansteel Bars are about 150g but let's consider the mats:

3x Titanium Bar (15g each, 45g)
1x Eternal Fire (15-20g each, 60-65g total so far)
1x Eternal Earth (5g, 65-70g total so far)
1x Eternal Shadow (10ish, 75-80g total so far)

So for something you can only do once per day, you're only making 70-75g profit from a 20 hour cooldown.

And I'll place any bets that skins are much, much more common than saronite nodes, and especially titanium nodes. Even though Saronite is only worth 18g a stack, people are still tripping over themselves to get them, so there is still heavy competition for them, and titanium... if you see one, drop everything and grab it, or it is going to be gone.

Heck, the stupid Crystallized Elements are worth more than the damn ore is, most of the time.

And Gems?

Don't get me started on a gem rant. Moon Guard's gem market sucks to be honest. Most blue gems are worth 30g, if that. And half of the time they don't sell. Siren's Tears, which are rare and hard to get, they are still in the 200s, but it is hard to get one to sell. Green Gems? Just vendor them. Not even worth sticking on the AH.

Edited, Jan 11th 2009 5:24pm by Zariamnk
#11 Jan 11 2009 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Cooking is a good profession for everyone to have, but especially for a skinner. All those beasts are going to drop meat as well, if you can turn it into +stat food, you'll make competitive gold/hour.


Is skinning for 2 hours better then say, farming primals for 2 hours? That I don't really know.
#12 Jan 11 2009 at 4:56 PM Rating: Decent
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On my server, Borean leather don't sell very well at all, while Herbs and Mining are very profitable. Every server is different however.
#13 Jan 11 2009 at 5:12 PM Rating: Decent
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herbs and mining will always be better than skinning, but on Alleria they do sell decent. Thick and rugged leather sell particularly well. It takes alot of rugged to get to 300, but most people head to outlands asap, and don't farm much rugged. So that's always in high demand. Not sure about the high end stuff, I'm not that high up yet. but I seriously doubt they do as well as mining and herbalism.

Thing is mining and herbalism are used for 2 professions; BS JC for mining, and alchemy Inscritpion for herbalism. Only LW uses skinning. And LW isn't that popular a profession even though several classes can use it. Rogues, druids, and hunters/shaman (for the mail stuff).
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#14 Jan 11 2009 at 5:55 PM Rating: Good
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I use my Death Knight in Northrend, usually just outside of Westbrook. I grab up the herd of Shoveltusks. Lay down my AoE, 2 Howling Blasts and 20 seconds later I have 6 to 9 Shoveltusks infront of me. Out of the 6 to 9, 4 of those is going to give up a Shoveltusk meat, or flank. A lot of the time both. Not only do I have 9 borean leather, but also the meat to cook. In an hour of farming, I can make 6 stacks of Shoveltusk Soup, 1 to 2 stacks of Shoveltusk steak for casters. And maybe 6 to 7 stacks of borean leather. Not to mention to the two or three Arcti Furs that drop ( they drop alot btw).
#15 Jan 11 2009 at 6:48 PM Rating: Good
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The simple answer is to check the auction house.

There are some fine answers here, but most are not going to help you until you are level 70. If I recall, you were around level 11 and not racing to level cap.

In the near future you are going to see light, medium and heavy leather. Go to the link at the top of the page and look up "game info/professions/primary/leatherworking" from the pull down menu, that will give you an idea of what you will have to expend as you level up.
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#16 Jan 12 2009 at 1:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Some good replies here , as my Hunter main at 71 has leatherworking/skinning i feel i can say that most of the time you will not have much spare leather unless you farm mobs , but if you do farm as i do for a few hours every now and then you will get some spare and depending on your level it can be profitable , as has already been said some types of leather do sell for a decent amount of gold.

Best bet if you do go skinning leatherworking is find out what the meat prices are like on your server ( cooking is always being power levelled ) , at various levels there always seems to be some type of meat or fish that sells for a decent amount and for me made more gold than my spare leather , i have not tried it since WotlK came out but i know in outland i was making about 20g for 20 kills on some meat types plus of course all the greens and vendor trash( probably gone right down in price now ) its not easy to say if you can still make decent gold from the extra drops as you level but i would be surprised if you cannot make a decent amount of gold from skinning plus the extra drops of meat and other items plus of course you get the bonus stats from cooking as the cooked meat can sell for as much or sometimes more than the raw at times.

Biggest advantage with skinning is you can find areas with a lot of beasts and just spend a few hours trying to kill and skin before they re-spawn and to me that makes more sense than running around trying to find herbs or mining nodes , and of course in some areas the herbs and ore nodes are well spread out and not always easy to find.

I also will say herbs and mining will both probably make more gold over time and the levelling of your alt but my main has made and spent several 1000 g so skinning + leatherworking did me no harm .
#17 Jan 12 2009 at 4:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Most of my skinning seems to come in instances these days and for that, it's a useful skill to have. I'm seeing quite a few (dis)enchanters and miners but it's rare for me to have competition in skinning the corpses. Trash will often yield 1-2 borean leather, nerubian chitin or icy dragonscale but mini and full bosses will give 7-9 borean. Running Violet Hold, I typically come out with two stacks of borean, so that's an extra 13g50 at vendor prices or more on the AH.

As Pold has said, the joy comes from Arctic Fur and that sells for as much as Frozen Orbs on my server - between 50 and 90g, depending how much is on AH.
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Cooking is a good profession for everyone to have, but especially for a skinner. All those beasts are going to drop meat as well, if you can turn it into +stat food, you'll make competitive gold/hour.


Is skinning for 2 hours better then say, farming primals for 2 hours? That I don't really know.


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Cooking can make you MORE money than skinning in the long run. There are foods such as dragonfin angelfish (this one requires you to have high fishing as well) that give a 1 hour buff of +40 agil and +40 stam. VERY popular raid-buff food. I have seen it sell on the AH on my server for 200g for a stack of 20. There is also a food that has +40 str and +40 stam that goes for more like 400g per stack of 20.

If you are a leatherworker, obviously you are going to want to skin, which might make you some extra gold. If you learn to fish and cook as well, you can supplement your income quite a bit.

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?wspell=57441

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=43000;source=live

Do some research here and some research on your server and don't neglect your "secondary" skills. They can be more profitable than your primary skills with a bit of work. I am sure that there are plenty of recipies that can make very profitable foods just from the meat drops you will get while killing/skinning anyway.

Edited, Jan 12th 2009 8:35am by jeromesimina

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#19 Jan 12 2009 at 5:51 AM Rating: Decent
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look, it's quitte simple...

you had nothing in your bag...

you killed a mob... you get meat... you get skin... you sell...

even at a copper each, it's profit over nothing...
just keep an eye out for the market prices and time your sales right...
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The point of skinning is not to 'grind' skins but to slowly accumulate them as you quest.

Questing an entire zone you might get say 3-4 stacks of ores to sell for a few hundred gold but in the same time questing and skinning you'll probably have 30+ stacks of leather, half a stack of Arctic fur and a whole bunch of dragon scales, joromunger scales and nerubian chitin.

So in my opinion, while questing, skinning will make more but if you want to farm solely for cash then mining is the clear winner (although I've found dailies just as profitable and they also grant rep).
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Kelnoen the Malevolent wrote:
The point of skinning is not to 'grind' skins but to slowly accumulate them as you quest.


This.

The whole reason skinning is recommended starting profession is because of it's convenience in making money. It's not for the "OMG I got rich" factor it's for the "Wow I made some decent cash while leveling" factor.

It's meant to put that extra gold in your pocket while you progress in levels without having to stop just for the profession.
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The end game profession is different from the leveling game profession.

Personally I just hate to leave money sitting on the ground when a right click can pick it up. I have many toons that work like a personal guild, but most toons have skinning for that reason. Sometimes and in some areas other players leave corpses all around and you can pick up a lot of leather that way.

Then my one LW makes only green items which I give to my enchanter to disenchant, to level or to make mats to sell or the LW makes armor kits which sell well or I use as an easy armor buff.
#23 Jan 12 2009 at 11:29 AM Rating: Default
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There are many ways to make gold with all professions. (I have some listed on my site right now) the trick is to find out how your server is (ie if you full of skinners, making gold will be hard)

Another trick is to find out how to make gold with the profession. There is more than one way, and being creative can make you alot more gold.
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On my realm it seems that mining and herbalism are better money makers than skinning. That being said, my main is a skinning/enchanting hunter. Although skinning makes less gold than the other 2 gathering professions, I don't have to keep my mini-map set to Find Herbs/Find Ore - leaving it free for all the other things I can track as a hunter.

The other advantage of skinning is that there is not the hot competition for nodes that you find with mining and herbalism. Plus, you can skin other peoples' kills if they have left the corpse. You probably won't get rich from skinning, but you will have an easy, steady source of income.
#25 Jan 12 2009 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
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On my server (Quel'Dorei) I'd say average prices are as follows for lower level leather per 20 stack:

light leather: ~1g
medium leather: ~3g
heavy leather: ~6g

I'm only level 35, so I don't have much more info beyond that. I only skin because I am a leatherowrker.

#26 Jan 12 2009 at 8:31 PM Rating: Good
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Honestly with my hunter I have, he's level 24 or so, I was thinking of taking skinning/lw instead of mining, but maybe i should just wait till 40 or so in the mean time taking mining and skinning and then decide whether or not to drop mining, I only plan on taking my hunter to 55 to make a dk, so I wont really need transport past my regular mount, which I already have the money for. Any other comments?
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