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yeh that seems to be ture i always get ganked in kara but what is funny is when your pally can't be assed trying to get the alliance to chill out and stop ganking so he stoped them summoing for a hour, or when all the horde in the area just say stop to that one ganking jerk

I rarely gank, usually when drunk and after being ganked to frustration on an alt. I do love chasing low-level allies around and dropping a stun or a cyclone on them just for yucks. It gets their heart pounding with no real harm done.

I usually like challenging PvP encounters out in the world, but one thing just drives me nuts. Here's an example: I was in Quel'danas doin' muh dailies. I had a heap of dawnblade paladins on me, since I'm prot and AoE grinding is really the easiest way for me to kill stuff. A rogue pops up behind me and stuns me for a little while. Once I'm back in control of my character, I go about defending myself. Now, as I mentioned, I'm a prot paladin. Prot paladins are not an easy kill for rogues, especially when geared and buffed for AoE grinding. Nearly every time the rogue hit me, he did more damage to himself than to me. I dispatched him quickly and went back to my mobs. Several minutes later I was sitting to drink, still in the same area, when that very same rogue comes riding over the hill in the company of fourteen other allies. I died so quickly I didn't know what hit me. And since my hearth was down, bubble-hearthing away wasn't an option. They camped my corpse all the way back to town, where I logged off in the inn. That's an extreme example, but for some reason whenever someone attacks me and loses, they always feel the need to find reinforcements and come back for me later. I don't get it.

While leveling the pally, though, I did amuse myself a lot by just ******* with gankers. I wouldn't fight back, but I would use every trick in my ******* to keep myself alive as long as possible. Bubble, stuns, lay on hands (if I knew I'd probably not need it within the hour). If you want to gank me, go ahead, but it's not going to be an easy kill.

I didn't rate the OP down for his opinions on ganking. I rated him down for using "gay" as an insult.

Rarely do I see homophobia on this board...at least, rarely compared to the O-boards or WoW chat channels. It would be nice to keep it that way.

Edited to stay on-topic:

I don't gank much. I generally prefer to mind control allies and buff them. Some are grateful, some are perplexed. Some are clueless and attack me, which is unfortunate, as the buffs I give them do not last beyond their deaths.

But I can't resist a novelty. I came across an alliance AFK by the meeting stone in SSC this weekend. Ordinarily the AFK are beneath my notice. But AFK by a body of water? Heh. I Mind Controlled him in over his head and watched him drown.

Edited, Jun 12th 2008 6:05pm by emmitsvenson

Which would never have occured without one of those soulless ganker starting the ball.

Yeah.

I really don't understand why people gank.

Who is helpless to defend themselves from gankers nowaday?

Get on an alt.

Call in some friends.

At worst, log off and play another toon for a bit.

If you get camped for hours upon hours, you're just as much to blame as the guy camping you in the first place.

Even more so, considering nobody is forcing you to play no a pvp server in the first place.

Bad analogy.

The lowbie is not the equivalent of the 3rd grader - he is a player with several way to avoid the situation in the first place or to defend himself as the case maybe.

I do not cause any real harm to the person I gank - and if I am somehow causing mental distress to that person, then that person should simply not be on a pvp server in the first place.



The simple fact that signing up on a pvp server is consentual and not forced by anyone makes your entire point moot. This 'social structure' is one where the victim has agreed it was fine to be a victim.



So Blizzard is stupid?

Thinking you hold a moral high ground because of your rather extreme view on game make you laughable. Even more so when the company that designed the game condones what you so vehemently reproach.


Edited, Jun 12th 2008 10:51pm by Tyrandor

I play on Spinebreaker (US) PVP, as a result I live by one rule; If its red, its dead.

Are you feeling well, Aurelius? I could have sworn you just made a few replies under a page long.

Seriously though, being verbose is no excuse for being a raving moron.

I can't believe you seriously compared ganking on a server where people sign up to war against another side to punching some innocent child in the face. A better example would be, if you insist on making an analogy that contains violence, a soldier from side A using a nerf bat on a scientist from side B that was making foam weaponry.

P.S. Rage harder.

Oh, and before you ask, I don't gank lowvbies very much - only if they started something, annoyed me or if I dislike their main.

Edited, Jun 13th 2008 12:56am by Kavekk

I think Alla should be more selective in his hiring policies. You're not bright enough for the job. Either that, or you can edit databases and ban gold spammers but not post as an admin...you make the site look bad. At least Wordean shows a measure of intelligence and objectivity.

You're making very poor reference to Blizzard's "hands-off" policy as though it condones ganking. Forget about Blizzard's policy,,.you lack the acumen to make appropriate use of a policy like that to reinforce your shoddy argument. It's hands off...they're not saying they support ganking. They're saying they're not going to interfere one way or another. Are you able to distinguish the difference between those two positions?



When you're new on a realm and your guildies are all in their 20s-40s, there's jack all that can be done when you've got even one 70 Rogue/Druid cruising a lowbie area one-shotting people for ***** and giggles. Get your head out of your ***. Not everyone has been playing WoW since release and has had years to establish large networks on a particular realm they can call on if they need backup. On my Shaman, there were actually times when I left Hillsbrad and went to Undercity to ask for help because Tarren Mill had been locked down for 3 hours straight and I was basically told to go **** myself. It wasn't that I was/am "unlikable"...I was an unknown. It was that everyone had better things to do than travel to a boring zone to fight a mismatched battle when the opposite faction are more likely to turn and run when their e-peen stroking fest was interrupted by some real opposition. Grab yourself a clue and make good use of it.



Not every? How about not 1 in 100. Probably a lot less frequently than that. It's pointless. Again, answer the reference to how ganking a level 20-30 player with your 70 is somehow more entertaining than one-shotting a level 20-30 mob in the same zone. Ohhhhhhhhh...because you know you're inconveniencing the other player. It's about power. It's about control.

But that's normal to seek power and control at the expense of others, isn't it? That's healthy. It's good.

Keep digging, cowboy.

Again, you're quoting someone else's decision to not step in to curb dishonorable actions as justifications for those actions. Pathetic.





Yes, I do have that option. It's not a PvP option though, and that's the point. I don't think Blizzard intended to have players on PvP realms logging out of the game because everywhere they go they get 10 minutes of uninterrupted questing in before the 4-digit ambush crit(or insert other one-shot attack) pops over their head. So because disempowered net-kiddies are handed a way to vent their angst, I have to go somewhere else...fair enough. How does that justify their actions?



I'm not behaving like a hurt kid...I'm telling you that if you lack your own moral compass such that you have to look to big daddy Blizzard for approval to behave like an absolute moron, you're...well...an absolute moron. Me disliking the atrocity that is leveling a lowbie toon on a PvP realm is secondary to your apparent idiocy.

“Morality is the herd-instinct in the individual.”
- Friedrich Nietzsche

We're cutting free by cutting through you, seksi. Get out of line or GTFO!

Wait.

Wait wait wait.

AureliusSir, having been roundly thrashed in his last moronic post (...and the one before that, and the one before that, and the one before that) and returning from his butthurt sabbatical is making another set of stupid, stupid posts?

Woah.

Who would have guessed?



It was true then and it's true now!

Ah no, to curb actions that are, and I quote:



I'm not the one who's not understanding here... you are >_>.

Blizzard does not says ganking is dishonorable anywhere, they do say it's a legitimate tactic however.

Blizzard has created pvp server, for the express purpose of giving people a place where ganking was a legitimate course of action.

This obviously, isn't getting through your skull.

Interesting tactic. Just refuse to acknowledge what is written.



Once again, I didn't pull Blizzard's policy out there as a justification. I put out there to show that by calling ganking supporters idiots, you're insulting people you probably didn't mean to.

See, the justification is actually quite easy to understand if you stop thinking about this as if it had any real life implication.

People sign up on pvp server because they want to experience a dangerous world without leaving the comfort of their house. In order for that world to feel dangerous, dangerous things have to happen in it.

So we gank, because we like knowing that we might in turn be ganked at any moment. We welcome both aspect of the game. I love being in a contested zone and knowing that I am not safe.

This is something I think a lot of the raging carebears don't realise - gankers are also ganked. We don't really feel bad, or hurt, or violated or what not when we get ganked. And in return, I don't think I hurt the person I ganked... if he's one of those people who suffer emotional distress at being ganked, then why did he roll on a pvp server?

As Blizzard puts it,



It's about making the world feel alive with danger.

It is not about control unless you make it about control. It is not personal unless you make it personal.

But as soon as ganking is mentioned, that's what you think about, right? Images of small children getting beat up by grown man come to your mind. Why?

It's somewhat fascinating that when some people get ganked... they shrug and carry on. Others shrug, and then reroll on a pve server - they realize it's not for them, which is fine. But a small part of the population feels so hurt... so violated maybe... that they need to make it a goals of theirs to berate and insult everybody who enjoys it. To make sure people understand just how morally superior they are because they don't do it.

So much insecurities.

But oh wait, I'm the one who needs therapy. Sorry.



I've leveled 4 character on 4 different pvp server to level cap. I've only ever had a 'support network' on the last one, because I started out with a bunch of posters from this forum. I've enjoyed it everytime.

There's tons of people that enjoy it. We play on our servers, we gank each others, we have fun and take it like good sports when we get kicked around. We don't hurt anybody but the people that shouldn't be on the server in the first place. People like you.

Yet once again, you call me an idiot... right after admitting that you've just put yourself through something you consider an atrocity in a game.

Edited, Jun 13th 2008 11:50am by Tyrandor