Do you gank?Follow

Personally i abhore ganking, from xp. I try not to perpetuate the constant ganking on PvP servers. Although i enjoy the random warfare.

Im sure you all know, but having 7 alliance chasing the gits who ganked your innocent *** is satisfying. However, its eventual conclusion is a poor random being killed. Oh so close to the bone of life, i know.

I watched an innocent murdered yesterday. I was going about my dailies, as most do. However, a mage and rogue had other plans. Deadly combo, destroyed i was. I rez'd at an opportune moment, deathcoiled dot'd and shadowburned the mage. Moved on to the (massively gay because of CoS, c'mon 95%! 75 would be reasonable) rogue and died. Mage just ice blocked and the rogue made haste of chopping my cloth. Many alliance died, and horde which i had emoted and laughed with were caught in the cross-fire. I watched an innocent and friendly horde chased by 4 alliance

I enjoy a good honest 1v1 (even tho im a lock :D). These 2 obviously made a point of killing anyone near them. I suppose thats PvP tho. Do you kill randoms? I /greet. if not i emote some more. Killing a grey level horde/outmatched/outnumbered just does not do it for me. Equal level is fine, 1 on 1.

I love the stream of horde moving through darkshire to kara, and this shows the ratio of gankers i think. Not very many, yet they make themselves known.

Ganking in a Battle ground is impossible.

Me, I never will initiate a gank outside of battlegrounds. As a matter of fact, If I run across a lower level horde. I'll run up to him and wave, point at his targets and jump up and down. Then as he begins to grind out his/her quest, I'll lend a hand. If this goes on 1 on 1 its a lot of fun, usually I'll get a bow or salute when the hordie has completed the quest and I'll continue to my destination. I've done this for all my time in WoW (also helping allies as well of course).

Problem is, in the last few months, my attitude is changing. I have been in many. many, many a situation as described above, helping out a lowbee hordie, when a hordie who surpasses me in level enters the scene. So, I expect to get attacked, but also hope that the hordie I'm helping will say to his faction something along the lines of, 'He's OK, he's been helping me out.'
Note here - I myself have been, in the past, helped by a higher level horde. If I see any alliance enter the area I immediately /yell, 'Horde is OK, been helping me out', and he/she is pretty much left alone, sometimes even given a salute or bow from the alliance guys/gals, who then move on.

Here's why my attitude is changing (keep in mind I am playing a lot more on the weekends) -
Take the first situation above. Me helping horde, another higher level horde arrives. I have, more times than I can count over the past few months, been turned on by the player I have been helping. There are many a situation where I have helped a horde run an entire quest, but, upon his/her upper level faction showing up, he/she has joined the attack on me then has the audacity to /spit, /rude gesture, etc... WTF?

Sure, there's the argument that that is how the game is meant to be played, but there is also the argument that someone who could have easily ganked you offered you help, then, as soon as you had backup you repay that player's good will with a gank and top it off with an insult. Top example: About a week ago I help a rogue, very down on health with multiple mobs on him. He bows, heals, stands and points at targets. I jump up and down. He attacks, I back him up. We clear a load of stuff for him.
I run off to grab an escort. About 5 minutes later I'm halfway through it and in a defensive battle, I'm low on health and set off a heal...guess who I got interrupted and ganked by?

If I'm on my 61 in Outlands I'm an easy kill and accept it, but to have that 70 in purple corpse camp for 30 minutes, obviously not AFK as whenever I look at the screen I'm getting /spit and /chicken? I mean come on, what is the glory in repeatedly ganking someone 10 levels below you on half health? It more or less means you can't deal with opponents of your own level, so just decide to go for the easier targets to build 'honor' then fire off insults as your so 'astoundingly good' in PvP. I'm inclined to think a skilled PvP player would not bother to hang around a corpse for 30 minutes in hopes to get off a second, even easier gank.

Now, outside of the QQ:

- Gimme a 1 on 1 of similar level with none of the turncoat stuff and I love it, even if I get slaughtered - its a fair fight and I can learn from it (and usually have a blast).

- Personally I love the almost western theme where you stumble across a horde from a distance, watch each other for a moment, buff up, face off and charge. It totally rocks and is probably my favorite aspect of the game! The WoW version of a gunslinger battle.

- Attack me upon sight so I can panic a bit and defend, then I counter attack and we duke it out. Fantastic!

But, accept my charity then cheap shot me when I'm weak. Not cool in the least.
And I'm sure there are many alliance out there that do the same on a regular basis.

Yet, as much as I know in many situations I'll get turned upon, I still don't gank and tend to help when I can.
Though this attitude is on a fine wire at the moment and I'm often tempted on ganking all lower levels (but only on weekends) due to the actions of a few, yet can never follow it through.

Edited, Jun 10th 2008 12:57am by OzoneSSX

This. Also the thrill of a hordie/ally buffing when he espies you. Its on and its fun, death or not its ok. Pure spite is all to evident in this game tho.

In before Tark's copypasta of his PvP response.

Do I gank? No, but that is because I have limited play time, so it is not worth it for me to waste it on someone else.

If you sign up for a pvp server, then that is a possibility you have to live with. If you only want "fair pvp" and only under specific conditions, then roll pve and do BGs.

if somebody /greeted me or whatever i would tear them apart and camp their corpse for being a puss.

And yes when i play on a PvP server I gank like crazy. everything dies. If its a 70, i wait till they are half dead or low on mana or fighting 2 mobs, whatever it takes to ensure that i win. If it turns south, clos+Vanish+run and come back later.

Strangely enough, ive been playing on a PvE server lately with my warrior and when i see flagged alliance, i just ignore them completely. probably cuz pvp on a pve server is fingers.

I don't know if this is just me but ganking like described here and corpse camping is the ultimate way of saying

"I'm too crap at pvp to kill people my level in a fair fight."
This is a game, it's meant to be fun. Being ganked/corpse camped isn't fun, and I don't see how it's fun for the ganker as for me, challenges make games fun and there isn't any challenging aspect of ganking.

Just my 2 cents.

My toon needs to get out more..all of these stories!

Oh and I too never gank, but have defended lower lvls I see being ganked if I can do it without a definite death. Blizz really messed up when they took away the negative points for a dishonorable kill.

Definitely not. I'm on a rp-pvp server because my friends are. Alliance people I meet get a /hello or /wave, and I'll help them out if they get in trouble.

Gankers get a /sigh or a /golfclap while they kill me. If it's not a one-shot, then I'll /sit.

Heh, I follow the same mentality Ken, I'll quite often be minding my own business, farming, chilling... totally ignoring the Hordes.

But if they /wave or /greet... oh, it's on!



Meh, what's the point? Those people are too far gone ;p

I'm starting to understand why the typical answer to those thing is 'LOL CAREBEAR!' rather then an actual debate... it gets tiresome. :\

Seeing as how I'm on a PvE server, ganking is almost non-existent unless I run across some people who, of course, are flagged. This is pretty rare though. The only time I ever engage is if I'm noticing my fellow ally is in trouble for whatever reason, than I'll intervene. Otherwise, I just leave them be. n.n

/tar OzoneSSX
/agree