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#52 Jan 22 2008 at 6:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Male on a female main here, but I don't get stalkers, probably because my babydoll is an undead with the most horrific face I could piece together: empty sockets, rictus grin, and J-horror hair. Sometimes the melee I've been healing through a BG declares love for me, but hell, I WANT them following me.

I believe we should treat everyone we meet with courtesy and respect, gender aside. Furthermore, I think it's a mistake to assume males are better at shrugging off abuse than females, or that all the people throwing insults around are boys. I can think of women from both sides of the spectrum.
#53 Jan 22 2008 at 7:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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On my very first character (my main), there was someone who kept pestering me to take my chest armor off but I just ignored him and he gave up after a bit. I really haven't had many problems though most of my characters are female. I recall being in Tarren Mill and someone told me I was one hot sexy Troll mama which made me smile though I can't remember how I responded. I usually just use the shy or smile emotes and be on my way. Sometimes my guildies say they like having a sexy tank but I think that's mostly when they've been drinking. >.<

I get mild cross-faction flirting at times while on boats and such. People dancing 'with' me or blowing kisses. One thing I noticed after a while was that I get a lot more flirting from Gnomes and Dwarves than from the other Alliance males. On my Night Elves and Draenei, I get flirts from Orcs and Trolls mostly. My male Trolls get flirts from Night Elves which usually amuses me.

I think the 'creepiest' thing that has happened to me in game wasn't really sexual in nature. I was on a male Troll and some lower level Priest kept asking me to group and started following me around and helping me kill stuff. It was bugging me so I ran off down the road toward Ratchet and he followed me. So, I hopped on the flight back to Crossroads and ditched him. :P



Oh - forgot to mention for those who don't know, I'm a female player as well. :)

Edited, Jan 22nd 2008 7:02am by morghast
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#54 Jan 22 2008 at 7:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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My husband and I both have female characters. He gets hit on all the time and I never do.

I did offer up my ~*"Nearly Naked Night Elf Lockpicking Service"*~ for a week and stripped down to just my tabard and danced in SW for lockboxes. I knew it would attract a few creeps, but I also got a few repeat customers and even a couple of referrals. I actually got hit on a lot less than I thought I would and never seriously harrassed. At most, people just usually danced with me for a minute, then went about their business. Fortunately I found a place I could safely level lockpicking and stopped whoring myself out. My return customers are very polite and don't care at all that I am now fully clothed.

But otherwise I've never been hit on in game.

I think the reason you got so much trouble from this punk is that you were in newbietown.
#55 Jan 22 2008 at 8:07 AM Rating: Decent
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I rolled my first female toon about a week ago - it took about a minute to get hit on by some tard in Northshire - followed by his mate.
I led them on a bit, then revealed that I am a hairy dude - at which point they shut up.
The further I have moved away from the newbie areas the less I get hit on - maybe my clothes aren't sexy enough?
However, I have had female toons flirt with my male toons (especially the bald dwarf for some reason) when trying to get me to help them with quests.
#57 Jan 22 2008 at 8:21 AM Rating: Good
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As an REAL female player for 3 years with a level 70 NE druid, Level 63 human warrior, and a newly created Level 21 Undead warrior, I would like to respond to the various posts that I carefully read regarding "female gamers".
To begin with, my girl friend and I thought it would be an interesting and exciting venture to form an all-female adult guild on Silvermmoon - WoW Chicks Have Stamina (WCHS). We wanted to give women a place where they could play the game in however manner they wished - soloing, questing, instances, pvp, bg's, etc. We formed the guild, and have had nothing but + + positive reactions starting from the charter signing,the exquisite tabard design:-),
and the mission, goals, and format of the guild. We have been in existence for 8 months and have very active female members, ranging in average from mid-40's to 70's. We actively recruit from the many guildless female characters that we see throughout Silvermoon, or we are approached directly by women on the game who see us around and inquire about joining.
WCHS has NO ranking system - all are ranked as "members", which in-turn, gives every member an equal say in all the guild suggestions, activities, and decisions. A main goal of WCHS is to encourage formations of instance/dungeon groups for all level of players for all level of instances. Lower level players (male and female) are often neglected by their guilds in this area of game play. Our guildies look out for each other!
WCHS has a well-stocked guild vault that all members have access to without reservation. The guildies are very generous with their donations. The vault bank is used for weapon/armor repair, which was an area discussed by all then voted on. We have no areas in the guild vault that are forbidden to any members. The guild is well pleased with this system.
The guild encourages its members to seek out the master craft members before using the AH for purchases. Guild members keep profession skills up-to-date and are always available to create whatever a fellow member may need.
Though WCHS is an adult guild, and we are free to express ourselves via language, jokes, opinions, etc., any form of sexism or intolerance of sexual/gender orientation, racism, religious bias, etc, no matter how "innocent" or "kidding" will be investigated, and the result may/will be immediate removal from guild. All members are highly aware of this policy.
The greatest mission and goal that we wanted to create with WoW Chicks Have Stamina is to produce a guild where all styles of game play are encouraged -never criticized, where an atmosphere of friendship and comraderie is formed and bonds are made, where players feel welcome and included. We wanted to create a guild that is active, respected and participatory in all facets of the game. We have achieved that goal!
Sincerely,
Sansmerci, Wow Chicks Have Stamina

PS - I strongly encourage any female (or male playing female) character, who is being stalked, verbally abused, humiliated, embarrassed, harassed, etc. note the "abusers" name and guild (if any), report the character to Blizzard immediately and also to the person's guild leader. I have friends who have taken screen shots of characters acting in this manner. I also suggest you add that person to your friends' list. This will give you an idea if he was suspended or even removed from the game. BUT, DO REPORT IT and make sure Blizzard is aware of his conduct.


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#58 Jan 22 2008 at 8:25 AM Rating: Decent
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i have had to deal with more then my share of rude players in all MMOs ive played. EQ being one of the worst for rude players.

i have never been the subject of that level of rudeness though. i simply report players like that. love that right click, report spam. or just hit the giant ? in your tool bar and report inappropriate behavior.

those actions he was doing could easy lead to a ban of at least 3 days if not longer. he was way way out of line.

i do love the spider cave track though, shows how little he knows about the game.
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#59 Jan 22 2008 at 8:30 AM Rating: Decent
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I apologize for the double posting. Can't find a way to delete the 2nd posting. Thank you for your patience in reading through my essay again :-)
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#60 Jan 22 2008 at 9:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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Some of my guildies have told me I probably would have gotten a similar reaction even with a male toon, since that guy seemed like he was a few rounds short of a full clip to begin with... and that might be true.

You see, I seem to be a magnet for weird stuff like that.

Story time again!

Almost 2 years ago now, we started The Fifth Star on the (then) new server, Anetheron.

I'm playing my human MALE mage, and I go in the Abbey to turn in one of those 'kill 10 kobold quest' and I see a human female toon wearing only her underwear.

Now, the game isn't new (it's been out like 2 years by now) and I figure that this is only some guy ******** around (The first 5 level of the game can certainly be done 'naked'), so I say 'Nice outfit'.

So 'she' sends me party invite, says something along the line of 'Want to have some fun?' in /p and does an emote about her unzipping my pants! Now my reaction was a pretty big 'What. The. @#%^'

Funny thing is... new server. Newbie human zone. It was packed. When the emote was done, we were surrounded by like 30 people who just clumped up on her toon. So I politely told 'her' 'Not interested' and he went to say he was truly a guy and he wanted to take screenshots of this to show how stupid wow players are.

Smiley: dubious

Well, I'm sure he got plenty of screenshots. Smiley: lol

Edited, Jan 22nd 2008 12:05pm by Tyrandor
#61 Jan 22 2008 at 9:05 AM Rating: Decent
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i posted my picture on "Draka's RL pic Thread" on the Draka forum on the O-boards, and soon after that i get a message from someone saying his friends wants to do dirty stuff to me.... mega creepy and now i regret ever posting my pic.
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#62 Jan 22 2008 at 10:12 AM Rating: Good
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i posted my picture on "Draka's RL pic Thread" on the Draka forum on the O-boards, and soon after that i get a message from someone saying his friends wants to do dirty stuff to me.... mega creepy and now i regret ever posting my pic.


I think when that dude says "friends", he means himself.


Edit: Also, how do you get it so it says who you are quoting instead of just saying quote?

Edited, Jan 22nd 2008 1:17pm by Ailitardif
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#63 Jan 22 2008 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
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The first time in my MMO life that I played a female character was when I was playing FFXI. I had a mithra, a female human cat sorta deal if you guys don't know what I'm talking about. Anyways, FFXI had a thing where you can sit somewhere with a bazaar and sell stuff while you're AFK. The poor mithra got ... raped, gang baned, etc. on the emotes chat lines. It was disgusting. And now I rarely play a female character.

I'd rather be thought of as an a**h01e male orc who doesn't give a crap than a female character to be hit on and make rude sexual remarks/advances to.

It's also quite fun to surprise the guild in saying something like "hubby needs help with this quest." And watching the chat go by w/ "you're a girl!" comments.
#64 Jan 22 2008 at 10:34 AM Rating: Good
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The "you're a girl" thing doesn't happen to me as much anymore in guild as I'm often on the vent channel. The last time I got an actual comment about me being a girl from someone meeting me in vent for the first time was from another female player who thought it was "awesome" to have a female tank being played by an actual female. LoL

When I'm on my male alts, non-guildies just assume that I'm male and I seldom correct them. Some people think it's odd for a female to have some male characters even though they don't think twice about males playing female characters. (My guildies just think that I have a weird liking for male Trolls. :P )
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#65 Jan 22 2008 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
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Personally, the thing I get most often that annoys me as a female in real life with a ne female rogue character is everyone assuming I am a guy. I get "dude" all the time, but mostly just makes me snicker. I don't usually announce the fact that I'm female, and don't correct people. I'd rather people comment on my playing style than my ***, and I've found more players are honest if they think you are a guy. I think people would be surprised at how many females are running around- we just don't let it be known by all for those reasons. That being said I love playing my male gnome mage as well...
#66 Jan 22 2008 at 10:43 AM Rating: Good
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I read somewhere that 60% of gamers are female. This statistic is related to all games, not just WoW, so I don't think it would apply specifically to WoW.
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#67 Jan 22 2008 at 11:00 AM Rating: Good
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Most of my toons are female, mainly because of my roleplaying side. I guess I don't have much of a masculine side because I don't "relate" to most of the male toons I've made. My main/first character, a gnome, never had problems with being a female toon, but she was given a lot of random stuff and gold. At the time I just thought that WOW was full of generous people. Smiley: laugh

Later some of my other female characters of other races did have some pretty creepy or just plain obnoxious stuff go on, which on the whole does bug the heck out of me. And I had one gnome character that got a whole lot of flirting in the babylands. I don't know if my first toon was just the perfect look to make people generous or what. But none of my other toons have ever been given even 1/4 as much stuff as she was.

I couldn't agree more with reporting the guy. That is an example of a time that Bliz ought to do something about the guy even if it was the first time he had been reported for anything. They should be able to see what actually happened so it isn't as if you should be able to get someone in trouble just by claiming they did something horrible.
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#68 Jan 22 2008 at 11:13 AM Rating: Good
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Zldyknight wrote:

It's also quite fun to surprise the guild in saying something like "hubby needs help with this quest." And watching the chat go by w/ "you're a girl!" comments.


That's pretty good. There is one player in my guild that has male and female alts and my husband and I sometimes have little discussions about whether the player is a male or female. We have never figured it out for sure. Smiley: laugh He thinks male because the toons are less chatty than the other female players in our guild. I'm undecided. So I can claim I was right either way some day. *giggles*

I've had once that I was on a female toon and someone said something showing that he assumed I was a guy playing a female toon. But that wasn't a problem I just kept chatting with him and had a little laugh to myself about the assumption and his reaction to the news that I'm a female irl. (for whatever reason he seemed embarrassed at his mistake)
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#69 Jan 22 2008 at 12:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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All of my characters are female because I'd feel weird saying that I stared at a guy's butt for 3000 hours


Wow, you guys are all really insecure or something.
I am female and play female toons.
I don't know about you, but I'm usually more busy staring at the butt of the mob I'm fighting to notice the thong my toon's wearing. heh
Which isn't to say...if I find a particularly slutty armour combo, that I won't put it on and run around town in it like a dork and screenshot it and upload it...because she looks so much better in it than I do.

Funniest thing I've heard over Vent was a female troll shaman named Marsha...she logged into Vent and said, "Hi. This is Marsha."
It was one of the deepest voices I've ever heard.

People accuse my BF of being gay sometimes for blowing a kiss at me. His toon's male and so is he. My toon's female and so am I. Go figure.

Worst I recall having to deal with in recent history as a female is trying to run a guild and having people call me a b**** for not knowing what I'm doing half the time (his words). Nice.

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#70 Jan 22 2008 at 12:40 PM Rating: Good
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If a person is harassing you past the point of the ToA, open a ticket.

If a player asks you to strip just respond, "Oh sure, you have never seen a naked woman before, right?" That shuts the macho guys up, and the overly-macho ones will then scream at you; open a ticket.

Honestly, I don't put up with that stuff from other players, at all. Racism, Sexism (and all other forms of intolerance) are enough for me to open up a ticket. A thirteen year old girl is allowed to play this game. In RL, that would be both sexual harassment and potentially verbal child abuse.

I don't care if you curse, and I have no right to stop you from being a pig. But if you are spreading your hate to others and I know about it, I am reporting you.

The three words I see most are: gay, its worse counterpart and ******. I HATE it when people say them. I don't know which is worse, that it is socially "acceptable" to use them or that they are used so much. Cursing is fine by me, there are times when I want to scream profanities. Hate words aren't.
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#71 Jan 22 2008 at 1:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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I only play female characters (female IRL also), but I've never had an issues. Mostly because I'm a rude *****.
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Nadenu, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
I only play female characters (female IRL also), but I've never had an issues. Mostly because I'm a rude *****.


Well except for with that weird, male gnome who wouldn't stop hugging your felhunter.

MAN he was creepy.
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#73 Jan 22 2008 at 1:36 PM Rating: Default
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Prom Queen NixNot wrote:

It works, more often than I'd like to admit. I'll be standing at the bank in Og or waiting for a zepplin, when a trade window will pop open, and someone will dump some gold, and random items into it and hit trade. Usually when I look down at the chat window, they've been /flirting, and /whistling, and other stupid nonsense. So I take their stuff, then hit my macro that reads /me lifts up "her" skirt, to show <player> "her" twig and berries.


Meh... write that one down..... /me lifts up "her" skirt, to show <player> "her" twig and berries. Check, BE barbie doll ***** female pally needs new gear to strip with :P

Nadenu, Goblin in Disguise Guru wrote:

I only play female characters (female IRL also), but I've never had an issues. Mostly because I'm a rude *****.


Most are anyways except that small 3 or 4% we actually arent drunk when we say we love them :P

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#74 Jan 22 2008 at 1:47 PM Rating: Good
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I'm female IRL, and I have chars of both sexes. My (female) 70 draenei pally gets flirted with fairly often, but I honestly can't remember ever having a serious incident of harassment while playing her. Maybe I was just lucky...

My baby warrior alt (also a female char) has run into a few weirdos though, all in the newb areas. I was trying to level her the other day and there were 3 morons all harassing a new player for asking perfectly innocent questions over general chat. It was a bit of a shame they were so stupid - it took me and my duo partner about a minute to get them all to say some rather...objectionable things that a very nice GM helped us sort out - by banning them I hope, because all 3 of them disappeared shortly thereafter. We got a new friend, and some asses got what they had coming - all in all a pretty good day :)

I really do feel for some of the new players. My friend even told us that she had been seriously considering dumping WoW as the same thing had happened to her the previous day. I suppose she was lucky she found a couple of hardasses like us to take her under our wings - but for those who aren't that fortunate (especially those new to MMOs and their unfortunately high richard population), it must be a real turnoff to encounter that kind of abuse when all you're trying to do is play a game.
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#75 Jan 22 2008 at 2:17 PM Rating: Good
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Celcio wrote:
Nadenu, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
I only play female characters (female IRL also), but I've never had an issues. Mostly because I'm a rude *****.


Well except for with that weird, male gnome who wouldn't stop hugging your felhunter.

MAN he was creepy.


<3 creepy gnomes

Miss you, Cel!
#76 Jan 22 2008 at 3:35 PM Rating: Good
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As a female player I always play female toons mostly NE or Draeni and have had what I guess is young boys hitting on me...depending on my state of mind that day , I either just ignore it or let them know I am a mother of 3 and 42 yrs old :p but mostly other players tend to just assume I am male.

I rolled my first BE the other day and got called an f#ing *****, which kinda shocked me enough to log off for a while.

I recently started all over again on the EU servers and decided to make my main a female dwarf, funnily enough no comments whatsoever!



Edited, Jan 22nd 2008 6:42pm by welshcookie
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