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I told some people about this last night and no one believed me.
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Gotta love being in an unaffected battleground, alliance wins av 70/30 and were getting up to av 37 or something close to that i went in earlier, and the new stance is excellent, i just hope it comes over to europian servers to, which is what i'm going to ask on the eu forums now.
I think I was in a winning AV in early 2007, I checked last night and we had two whole AV's to queue for.
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Those QQ threads by the cheaters made me think of the chilli cookoff South Park.
Cartman licking Scotts tears: Ooh, the tears of unfathomable sadness. Ummmm, yummy, yummy u-guys!
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Edited, Jan 13th 2008 6:43pm by kindgreen
Cartman licking Scotts tears: Ooh, the tears of unfathomable sadness. Ummmm, yummy, yummy u-guys!
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Oh wait, you mean for the last 2 years when they said it was ok to afk they were just full of it?
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Oh wait, you mean for the last 2 years when they said it was ok to afk they were just full of it?
You have a point. For a long time their stance was basically we're not going try to police it, unless you have a bot then we don't care. I am glad though that they are taking a tougher stance on it now. I've already been in a few AV games with no AFKers, well obvious ones at least, and that's the first time I've seen that in a long time.
edit: Rate down if you like but it's the truth. For awhile people complained about people either going AFK or going fishing, or anything that really hurt the team. Blizzard would say something along the lines of, "one person's participation can be different from someone else's, people have different goals in Battlegrounds; as long as they're at their computer and not botting it's ok." Which meant hitting jump every minute while watching TV was ok, as long as you hit jump and a bot didn't do it for you. They did take the fishing out and then later came out with the report system, and now the penalties. Their level of interest in BG AFKers has changed over time, which is good, but what Esoa said is true.
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kindgreen wrote:
Those QQ threads by the cheaters made me think of the chilli cookoff South Park.
Cartman licking Scotts tears: Ooh, the tears of unfathomable sadness. Ummmm, yummy, yummy u-guys!
edit: removed link to youtube...pretty sure I forgot that was against rules on this board
Edited, Jan 13th 2008 6:43pm by kindgreen
Cartman licking Scotts tears: Ooh, the tears of unfathomable sadness. Ummmm, yummy, yummy u-guys!
edit: removed link to youtube...pretty sure I forgot that was against rules on this board
Edited, Jan 13th 2008 6:43pm by kindgreen
WTB Polaran.
Mazra wrote:
Shaman changes:
-Fixed a bug where Shamans sometimes died while in combat.
Grandmother baelnic wrote:
They just announced that every class will get a hero class except shaman, who will get a hero class totem with 5 hp.
Epic Thread.
Admiral Placeholder wrote:
God I love to see people ******** about getting punished for doing something they very well knew was against the rules. Those complaint threads made my day.
It was a freaking good way to start my day reading this. Now I can even get yelled by my boss. Don't mind at all.
Do they still have the quests to complete in AV? I've never done them just because I don't want to get into trouble.
I know it is different than AFK, but it certainly isn't helping your team win the war.
I know it is different than AFK, but it certainly isn't helping your team win the war.
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Do they still have the quests to complete in AV? I've never done them just because I don't want to get into trouble.
I know it is different than AFK, but it certainly isn't helping your team win the war.
I know it is different than AFK, but it certainly isn't helping your team win the war.
The only in-BG quests that still exist are: Armor Scraps, Ivus/IceLord summons, collect crates from a mine (you'll never actually finish this to the point where you can summon reinforcements before a game ends, though, and the reinforcement summoning guy has been removed from the game, so it's kinda pointless) and the wolf/ram riders (again, you'll never finish this before the BG actually ends, though).
Oh and the kill-the-general quest.
The armor scraps can be "useful" to turn in if you have over a thousand (and an auto-quest-turnin mod) because it can upgrade your guards making it much harder for anyone to solo-cap a graveyard. It's still possible to duo-cap a graveyard though by having one person run around on their mount with the guards chasing them, and the other grabs the flag. The wind/griffon rider turnins still exist as well, though I've never seen any of them actually get launched since, well, basically since cross-realm BG's opened and it became a race.
Short answer: yes some quests still exist, but the BG goes so fast these days that none are worth doing.
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The problem is the sheer volume of players that AFK in BGs. Blizzard won't be able to actually target more then the worst 10% roughly, so in practice many will still find AFKing benifitical simply because the odds of action being taken against them does not out weight the benifits.
This will certainly reduce the number of AFKers, but you go to a AV next week and there will still be spelunkers. The key is deterence and if blizzard cannot deter enough AFKer to stop, then their will still be relative safety in numbers.
This will certainly reduce the number of AFKers, but you go to a AV next week and there will still be spelunkers. The key is deterence and if blizzard cannot deter enough AFKer to stop, then their will still be relative safety in numbers.
Even getting rid of the worst 10% would be worth it - if AFK in the BGs went from something that was common to simply something that was occassional, that'd be fine.
Remember, the worst 15% of any group causes 85% of the problems - get rid of them and that takes away most of the problems.
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Oh wait, you mean for the last 2 years when they said it was ok to afk they were just full of it?
No - it means that they're listening to us, the consumers.
Blizzard has one main objective - keep us happy enough that we keep playing the game and paying our subsciption fee every month.
The main focus is keeping the game up and running and bug free, then after that, adding new content to maintain interest.
When those objectives are satisfied, then Blizzard can focus on the little things - giving gear cooler looking graphics, fixing bugged NPCs or minor quests and policing the BGs to remove the AFKers.
Lets face it - the AFKers aren't a bug or a real quality of life issue for the vast majority of players - BG PVP is the minority, not the majority.
As such, issues with BGs take a back seat to things that effect the majority of players.
So now Blizz has the time/resources or has heard enough complaints to warrant doing something about these people.
GREAT!!!!!!!!!
Don't ***** - be happy - better late then never (unless you're an AFKer).
Now they just have to make it so that premades only play other premades and pugs just play pugs and I will be happy. I'd also love to see someone teach the Alliance on Rampage how to play AV so that they start queuing again. (Here's a hint, capture the graveyards first, and it doesn't take 30 of you to kill Galv). Though it has led me to basically stay logged in all day and just play AV every hour or two when it pops. Gives me time to do some actual work for you guys.
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Allakhazam Defender of Justice wrote:
Now they just have to make it so that premades only play other premades and pugs just play pugs and I will be happy. I'd also love to see someone teach the Alliance on Rampage how to play AV so that they start queuing again. (Here's a hint, capture the graveyards first, and it doesn't take 30 of you to kill Galv). Though it has led me to basically stay logged in all day and just play AV every hour or two when it pops. Gives me time to do some actual work for you guys.
Quite often I do the same thing. And when I wave to you, you never wave back, I'm so ignored! =P
Do what now?
Whats happening with that system that matches people who join BG's with equally equiped players?
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Also they aren't pixels, they're polygons, any **** you watch on your PC is pixels, and besides, real women are just cells.
Tenjen wrote:
Whats happening with that system that matches people who join BG's with equally equiped players?
That's just the arena =(
Do what now?
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