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#1 Oct 10 2007 at 8:53 AM Rating: Good
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For those who care...
Just thought I'd post a little note here that after 9 months of goofing around in the Outlands and leveling alts, my guild is finally picking up and has managed to get people keyed and showing up for a Karazhan run.
Last Sunday we took 7 guildies + 2 people off my friends list into Karazhan.
We had previously stepped in and killed a few ponies, but this time we cleared up to Attumen and one-shotted him. Smiley: smile
Sadly, our borrowed warrior tank had to leave, but we continued up to Moroes and cleared trash (yes, with a single druid tank and only 8 people wearing misc blues and greens). We made a decent first attempt at Moroes and got him to 65% before death and respawns overcame us and we called it a night.
Nice first run!
Oh, and I have to say...
Even without a full raid, Attumen was easy. I anticipate much farming of him in the future.
Rawk.

Drops from Attumen included Harbinger Bands which one of our warlocks picked up and a lovely Worgen Claw Necklace which I snagged. Smiley: grin

Our guild has been suffering from Casualitis with a few attacks of Altitis. It's nice to see some fresh up and coming faces in the guild to replace some of the old schoolers who are pretty much bored with the game and have stopped playing.

-T.
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Drops from Attumen included ... a lovely Worgen Claw Necklace which I snagged.

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#3 Oct 10 2007 at 9:03 AM Rating: Decent
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GG,kara is easy and all about the scripts of the bosses. youll have to reclear to moroes btw
#4 Oct 10 2007 at 9:09 AM Rating: Good
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Heh
Yeah, I have to say that SO FAR, Kara does seem to be easy enough.
Collecting 10 players of the right class at the same time, not so much.
Since we're doing Karazhan on Sundays, of course we'll have to reclear everything. Hey, more Violet Eye rep and more chance for random trash drops. Smiley: grin

Oh, on the plus side, that warrior might be reapplying to the guild now that his work schedule is settling down. He put in an app a while back and had to withdraw since his playtimes weren't going to sync up.

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#5 Oct 10 2007 at 10:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Tepetkhet the Shady wrote:
For those who care...
Just thought I'd post a little note here that after 9 months of goofing around in the Outlands and leveling alts, my guild is finally picking up and has managed to get people keyed and showing up for a Karazhan run.


You need to spend more time in Shatt! I like to dismount way up in the air and see if I can suicide-gnome-bomb anyone I know. I'm running out of targets!
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#6 Oct 10 2007 at 10:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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Congrats on Kara :)

I made the wrong choice with my rep ring originally... and didn't know you could swap it out once you are exhaulted with The Voilet Eye for the correct one :)

Needless to say I was so excited, swapped... and realized it charged me 75G!!! T_T

Be careful when accepting the quests outside :X
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#7 Oct 10 2007 at 10:43 AM Rating: Good
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Ialaman wrote:
You need to spend more time in Shatt! I like to dismount way up in the air and see if I can suicide-gnome-bomb anyone I know. I'm running out of targets!


*rofl*
I'm usually within the safety of the bank or up by the Scryers recall point.
I am not so sure I want to step out just to become a target...

Thanks for the tip, Ebonspine. I have heard that as well from our druid tank who originally was forced to pick up the healing ring by his last guild.
Luckily, rogues get pretty much one choice...can't really ***** that one up. :/

Reading comprehension FTW.

-T.
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#8 Oct 10 2007 at 10:07 PM Rating: Good
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Glad to hear you're doing well, Tep.

Tepetkhet the Shady wrote:
Yeah, I have to say that SO FAR, Kara does seem to be easy enough.
Collecting 10 players of the right class at the same time, not so much.


We thought so ourselves, after a group of us splintered from our old guild and formed a new one. Now we're having no problems getting the people we need for our 25 mans. In a short time, I'm sure you'll be making some major progress through Kara. Smiley: smile

Tepetkhet the Shady wrote:
Since we're doing Karazhan on Sundays, of course we'll have to reclear everything. Hey, more Violet Eye rep and more chance for random trash drops. Smiley: grin


If you're finding that you can't quite take down Moroes yet, but still want more rep and less wiping on a boss you're having trouble with, consider going after the Animal Boss. The general loot sucks, but it's a good way to build up a lot of rep and the odd void crystal for when someone needs an enchant on some new Kara drop in the future.

And, as a bonus, there are fights later on where resistance gear on a key few people will make a major difference. And the animal boss can drop random pieces of epic resistance gear.
#9 Oct 15 2007 at 2:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well...
Last Sunday we had a full raid (and all Guildies, too!).
Took out Attumen with ease.
Went after Moroes twice (first time to 15%, second time to DEAD).
Went after beast boss and killed the Spider that spawned.
After that, too much time had passed (3 or 4 hours - we spent a lot of time waiting for respawns in front of Moroes when somebody had to leave and didn't hearth/drop group first) and so 5 of us stuck around to farm some additional rep.

Freakin' awesome! Smiley: yippee

I'm hoping next week to get an even faster run and clear Attumen and Moroes in half the time, and then head over to Maiden.

-T.

Edited, Oct 15th 2007 3:48pm by Tepetkhet
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Grats on getting Moroes!


He's one of the big stumbling blocks that new Kara groups face, and downing him is a big step in the right direction.
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He's one of the big stumbling blocks that new Kara groups face, and downing him is a big step in the right direction.

Really? Hm. I didn't think it was that rough once we got everybody there and coordinated.

You think we should do Maiden next, or something else like the Opera event?

-T.
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Tepetkhet the Shady wrote:
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
He's one of the big stumbling blocks that new Kara groups face, and downing him is a big step in the right direction.

Really? Hm. I didn't think it was that rough once we got everybody there and coordinated.

You think we should do Maiden next, or something else like the Opera event?

-T.


Personally, I prefer Opera. The fights are quite challenging however and require a very specific group makeup most of the time (at least to learn it).


I have never been a fan of Maiden, as it is not a very melee friendly fight. it can be healing intensive at times and takes a lot of coordination to make sure your healers don't all get stunned while your tank is still getting pounded.
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#13 Oct 16 2007 at 3:27 PM Rating: Good
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Grats, at that level I found Moroes a tougher fight then many others. With the right group makeup I find Maiden much easier. Animal bosses (spider) aren't worth the time imo, very pathetic loot tables, far too much trash you need to clear. I'd go Attumen, Moroes, Maiden, Opera, Chess, then see how you're doing on time after that.
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Except you need to do Curator before chess ;).

Maiden is a pretty easy fight if you are not super melee heavy. Get someone to focus on dispelling Holy Fire, make sure to spread out to reduce laser damage, and get a healer to jump into the small aoe before ret stuns and you're good to go. (Druids with their instant casts are especially good at this, since they can get heals off while moving back out)

Non tanking melees should be able to back out and bandage, alleviating some of the stress on the healers (they just gotta learn the timing).

Opera can be tough depending on group makeup, particular member skills, and gear. Each guild/group has different experiences with the various events possible.
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#15 Oct 16 2007 at 8:25 PM Rating: Good
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Nice, Kara really is how much time you spend in there and if you keep a consistant group coming you'll have most of it down in no time.

Good luck with the rest of it!
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Tepetkhet the Shady wrote:
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
He's one of the big stumbling blocks that new Kara groups face, and downing him is a big step in the right direction.

Really? Hm. I didn't think it was that rough once we got everybody there and coordinated.

You think we should do Maiden next, or something else like the Opera event?

-T.


We did Maiden next. My recommendation is to go there unless your group is very melee heavy. We had 3 melee total(2 tanks and a rogue).


Opera can be challenging to learn, but if you get lucky and get BBW, it can be cake to master. Consider having a rogue stealth over to Opera in a break after Moroes to see what you have, then make your decision based on which one you think you can handle.
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Well, that was fun! We had a different group this time which was unfortunately slightly melee heavy, and our paladin had to bail after Moroes.
Attumen's practically on farm now.
Moroes took us a couple tries before we got the shackle / kill add rhythm down.
We went ahead and went after Maiden.
Being melee-heavy sort of hurt us...that, and we had 2 prot warriors along. The fight went a little smoother when I had the Thunderfury-wielder go DPS and had the other prot warrior tank. We also had to play with kiting and positioning since we didn't have a paladin to help break the stuns.

The Maiden of Virtue seemed to have a suspicious bulge in her skirt and we thought she might actually not be as virtuous as she may seem. After we downed her (3rd try, I think), one of our cat durids dove in and confirmed that she is in fact female and the bulges were just her phat lewtz.

We didn't have time to hit Opera, alas.
We'll have to go a little faster next time, or find a way to pull extra healers out our butt who will be available during the week for a second raid night.

Kinda funny how we got a lot of applicants as soon as we started downing bosses in there...just added another warlock, a mage + warrior + rogue, and a level 61 shaman who's willing to spec healy for us when he hits level 70 and gets keyed.

Sweet.

-T.
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Grats on the new kill.

Tepetkhet the Shady wrote:
Kinda funny how we got a lot of applicants as soon as we started downing bosses in there...just added another warlock, a mage + warrior + rogue, and a level 61 shaman who's willing to spec healy for us when he hits level 70 and gets keyed.

Sweet.

-T.


Yeah, they'll come out of the woodwork expecting easy epics. Just be sure to balance your recruitment so you don't end up having enough DPS for 2-3 runs but only enough tanks and/or healers for 1. It'll be a quick way to lose folks.
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You'll find it quite ironic that, after progressingly more difficult fights in terms of coordination and the amount of damage versus dps you need to put out, the "end" boss in Karazhan (the Prince) is more about luck than anything. You can be covered in BT epics and still wipe on him all day if you get bad infernals repeatedly on you, your tank, and in places that cut of the melee from a safe-route to the ranged classes.
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I'm not just saying this because I'm a tankadin, but seriously consider getting a decent one when starting Kara. It makes all the pulls to Moroes and Maiden a god damn triviality, and even allows multiple Moroes adds to be tanked in the event of limited CC.
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If you have a paladin maiden should be cake. Just have him put up blessing of sacrifice and he won't be stunned during repentance. Also have everyone in the raid get a boss mods. The other healers will learn to run into the the concecration seconds before repentance.

Will take a little learn, but since you got moroes so easily, sounds like you guys will take her down quickly.
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Tepetkhet the Shady wrote:
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Yeah, I have to say that SO FAR, Kara does seem to be easy enough.


Glad to hear you seem to be having fun with it. Kara has been nerfed quite a bit since the xpac was released (particularly the trash mobs). We initially had a little trouble learning Moroes and Curator is a real gear / dps check. Keep up the positive attitude and keep a regular group and you're sure to be clearing the place from start to finish with time. Good luck!
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#23 Nov 21 2007 at 12:30 PM Rating: Good
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:

Yeah, they'll come out of the woodwork expecting easy epics

Bah.
And leave just as fast when you stumble and they find they actually have to work at it.
I'm really unhappy lately with the guild as a whole not putting much effort into things. Moroes at first seemed so easy, and now we have a hard time getting people coordinated enough to kill him.
One of the tanks and his ret paladin buddy left.
A healer left because we weren't farming Maiden.
Our other healer moved and is busy getting settled in and hasn't logged in.
It's another slump...I just hope we can get over it and get back to killing stuff soon.
On the plus side, my paladin is level 57. I hope to get her into the Outlands tonight and start gearing her up with healing gear so I can respec her from Prot to Holy. If I can figure out how to play a holy paladin, it will be nice to have a non-melee DPS to swap in and finish encounters.

-T.
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Focus on running heroics on off raid nights, with the new heroic loot this will be a huge boost towards clearing kara. Moroes is always a little crazy, but once your dps gets higher the adds die so fast, they can't do the damage they do when you first start out.
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