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#1 Aug 22 2007 at 7:14 PM Rating: Default
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This is a question to those who play paladin. What is great about paladin? Can They do great dmgs? According to the guide here, it says Paladins are persistent in not dying but has bad dmg. Is that true? What is fun about paladins? Fun thing about warlock is summoning things. For hunters you get pets, for druids you turn into animals. What is fun about paladin? The knly exciting thing about them is their cool mount. Thats it. What else is cool? Tell me about it!

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#2 Aug 22 2007 at 8:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Retribution specced paladins can do decent damages at lower levels, but are pretty much a joke endgame (often referred to as loladins).
Protection specced paladins can make great tanks if they know what their doing and if geared could probably tank heroics or even Kara, and without a doubt be very powerful off-tanks.
Holy spec, however, is where paladins really shine endgame. Holy Pallies are generally considered the best single-target healers in the game. If you don't like healing, a Paladin may not be the class for you because that's generally the role your going to get shoved into at end-game. That's not to say that there aren't plenty of guilds with Pally tanks, but a survey of endgame paladin specs will show that something like 90% of level 70 Paladins will spec holy.
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#3 Aug 22 2007 at 10:05 PM Rating: Decent
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For starters lets post things like this on the paladin forums. The fun part about being a paladin is that its really hard to die. You can take on multiple mobs mobs and have full confidence that you will come out alive, free/unique mounts are cool as well. The downside is that yes paladins produce lousy damage and this forces you to do do two thingsin instances tanking or healing, usually the latter.
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#4 Aug 23 2007 at 8:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I just dinged lv 19 last night. Every once and a while I get that feeling that I'm playing Bard or Red Mage from FFXI. Making sure I keep a short duration buff on each party member. The only difference is the Mail/Plate armor, and the more DPS (bard was a wimp in ffxi... I hit lv 48ish?).

It's fun, I like being able to throw Blessing of Wisdom on me, and plowing thru toons non stop, w/o too much mana issues.

Give it a shot, you don't like it no real loss (other than a few hours).
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#5 Aug 23 2007 at 10:37 AM Rating: Default
It is true that most lvl 70 Paladins are healers, but I cannot stress enough that this is not the only way. Ret paladins need to be extremely well geared later on to have an impact, but I do indeed know a couple who pump out some pretty respectable dps and are great in pvp (can do dmg, heal and take a lot of dmg). Paladins can indeed tank heroics and kara, it just requires a bit more skill then a warrior tank (no offense to warriors). Paladin tanks can front-load threat because they start with full mana, and with spiritual attunement I don't really find mana that much of an issue. The only areas that Paladins fall short in terms of tanking is their taunt (righteous defense) is less effective and they can't jump into berserker stance to avoid fear. This really isn't a huge problem, if you have a sham who can throw down tremor totem and if you use blessing of protection wisely it essentially works as a 2nd taunt. The other things are true as well, you rarely die and you can use a wide assortment of weapons. Don't let anyone force you to be a paly healer, they can certianly be extrememly effective as a tank and if you gear yourself well you can be a solid ret paly.
#6 Aug 23 2007 at 10:54 AM Rating: Decent
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And let's not forget pally bubbles and lay-of-hand spells. If you can sum up a pally in one word it's "survival." Again, depending on what your gear and specc is, a pally will usually last longer than other classes. I know it wouldn't make much of a difference when you're the last one standing and the mobs pounding on you have more than 25% health, but it makes a world of difference if you're the last one standing and the mob has just a bit of health leftover.
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#7 Aug 23 2007 at 12:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Nothing makes you hate yourself more than when I Pally bubbles in the middle of a fight, then heals to full, while you frustratingly await him to go back to full.

Now, as a warrior, it's best to start bandaging now, cause you'll need some extra health. No. You won't get the full benefit from the bandage since his Holy Light is faster than your bandage, but every little bit helps.

And yeah...LoH is awesome. Pallys are great in BG's too. I'd just follow the FC and make sure they didn't die. Worse comes to worse, I'll LoH. I don't care. Whatever gets the job done.

So, yeah. Pally's don't do the phenomenal damage all that well...but go ahead. Kill one. Find out how much of a pain in the *** they can be.
#8 Aug 23 2007 at 2:26 PM Rating: Default
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A well geared, well played ret pally can ***** up other players quite easily.

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#9 Aug 23 2007 at 4:57 PM Rating: Decent
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A ret pally can do great damage, but the reason you'd have to cut back on it is because of threat issues. A lot of high-end ret pallies complain about not having a good threat reduction and having to use blessing of salvation, along with sometimes just not attacking so the tank can gain aggro.

I've seen damage meters and damage charts, and I've seen ret pallies come out at top. The reason you don't see this som much is because less than 10% of the raiding pally population is ret, and a little more than 80% is holy. Also, many people think ret is focused around spelldamage and intellect, which is mislead. Seal of Command goes off of melee crit and melee damage, and has a very tiny crappy spell damage coefficient. It's made for arms warrior gear. You need to get AP first, then Crit, then Stamina, then resillience (but only for PvP) then intellect. Spelldamage and spellcrit are unnecessary.

A prot pally is really good at outlasting people, especially if it's a prot/holy hybrid. A holy pally is also really good at outlasting people, but not for raw damage mitigation. Instead it's because of their high-quality mana-efficient heals.

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Nothing makes you hate yourself more than when I Pally bubbles in the middle of a fight, then heals to full, while you frustratingly await him to go back to full.

Now, as a warrior, it's best to start bandaging now, cause you'll need some extra health. No. You won't get the full benefit from the bandage since his Holy Light is faster than your bandage, but every little bit helps.


Pallies can still attack with their bubble up, it's just that their attack speed is reduced to 50% of what it normally is. Unless you spec prot that is.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2007 9:09:50pm by Tremmor
#10 Aug 23 2007 at 5:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Another reason why pallies are the bomb

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wP9nXtHXrE0
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#11 Aug 24 2007 at 12:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, as a Pally (mine is only 37), you don't get the bubble where you can still attack until later levels (40 I think). Still, 50% increased attack speed seems rather droll. I'd almost rather not even bother with it (of course there is that talent, but I'm a holy Pally, so there goes that...)

Still...Pally's are the kings of Survival in my opinion.
#12Sumba, Posted: Aug 24 2007 at 1:28 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) pally suck there bad . they kill so slow
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