Warriors: Not the Sharpest Tools in the Shed.Follow

Nubpriest, flash heal is for emergencys only. On non-tanks when renew doesnt cut it. Greater heal has more HPM and HPS.
Im shadow specced and got through furnace exclusivly using greater heal and renews on lvl 62, solo healer.

Its has always been the difference between good and not so good priests in WoW :P

Edited, Jan 22nd 2007 10:36am by Sjans

These stories are funny, but what I find funny (besides the stereotyping)is how people think every class should play a certain way or otherwise they are playing them wrong.

Now mind you, if you are in a group or raid you should know you're role. But, if I am running around minding my own business and not bothering anyone else, how I play is up to me. For example, my druid never sits down, she is up beating on things right next to my husband's hunter, who is also beating on things, while the pet either helps or off-tanks. Of course the dynamic is different with just the 2 of us but he rarely sits back and shoots. It's hard to do that when you get swarmed anyway.

There's definitely no excuse for a college student who doesn't know the meaning of the word invariably, but there are a lot of kids who play this game. Not only that, but you don't have to pass an IQ test to play it. And, regardless of the fact that I will probably offend warriors by saying this, warrior really is the easiest class to play. Whether you know how to use all of your abilities or not, you can still stand there and smack the mob until it's dead and it doesn't take brains to do it.

Edited, Jan 22nd 2007 8:24am by chrisisanangel

As a priest heard something that made me cringe the other day. A mate of mine said he was in an instance and the priest that was in there never once came out of shadow form because there was a druid in there as well.

QQ more dude.

Dont bring your drama about warriors on here because you arent telling us that one probably made you look like a moron.

The same things can be said about most rogues. Most rogues especially those of the Night Elf variety tend to be dumb little kids with nothing better to do than name their character "Pwnzor" or something of that nature,and whine about when they get 2 shot by a warrior.

Don't think I'm being partial to warriors because I have played both classes for a looooong time. This brings me to my new topic. Did you ever run any endgame instances? Well if you did you can thank warriors for that. Warriors are the glue that holds a raid together. Without the tanks you would not be alive in a raid. It takes pure skill to tank, and granted there are dumb tanks but when you title the post "Warriors: Not the Sharpest Tools in the Shed" you are begging to get some flak from the good warriors.

Every class has morons that play it. In my opinion I see the most idiots playing rogue so from now on keep your complaints about other classes to yourself or you will probably get burnt.

Thank you, and flame off =D

You wouldn't happen to play on Garona, would you? Alliance side? 'cause that sounds like a stupid player trick that my ex-guild leader would pull. Of course, she's the same control freak that wants all kinds of rules for everyone ELSE to follow, but don't apply to her. :P Upto, and including, not allowing a Warrior to roll on a tanking trinket in Blood Furnace 'cause she wanted it (and she was on her druid, Feral). Sheesh. Oh, and she wouldn't let the 51 pt Resto Druid (don't ask) roll on a healing trinket that dropped 'cause she (the GL) wanted it for when she had to heal. And this was AFTER already claiming the tanking trinket. :P

Reminds me more and more why I left the drama that was that guild. :P Now, if I could only convince that Resto Druid that her life would be SOOO much easier/happier after she did a /gquit... :(

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Oh no, I will be the first to admit that Shaman is one class that draws idiots like moths to flame. Same with Hunter and Rogue. Weird that all the classes I've played to 40+ seem to be the classes with the most retarded 60s.

It is fun, though, putting up higher DPS numbers than a Rogue/Hunter/Mage/Lock while dropping totems and spot-healing.

Ah, the power of WF and DW with a Feral Druid that can hold hate.

/100% agree

I also play an arms warrior and dps classes need to realize that agro is as much their problem as it is ours.

Done it today, two guildies and two pickups. A few nasty pulls but only two deaths, both on that hydra boss (knocked me back and made my camera go all wonky so I couldn't see in time to stop him, the other was his poison killing the lock after we took him down).

Now, in the cases of tons of mobs to aggro, then you learn to prioritize. Okay, priest getting beat on, that's high on the list. Hunter got a mob on him? I think he'll be fine. (I have had a few problems with hunters pulling hate a lot but since they wear mail and can shed hate, I'm quickly learning to let it slide) Lock Felguards work wonders for taking up some slack too.

In no way is it impossible or even significantly harder to hold hate provided everyone gives you two seconds to establish it which is how it always has been. That's all it takes. People who get itchy trigger fingers learn their lessons fast.

And I still think pugophobics are just poor or lazy leaders. The only, ONLY problem I tend to have with them is healers who join without ample time to devote. Honestly, what is it about healing classes that attract people with unstable schedules? I must know...

Hmm, I think the problem is that for most healers, there just is not as much incenitive to make the pug work. Quite often, when I pug, I get the last spot, and my waiting time for instances that I want to go to is less than 5 minutes. The last few furnace, slavepen and underbog runs I pugged, I was the last spot, responding to a call in /1 LFM Healer for xxx, last spot. I never respond if I do not have the available time though.

Its the same mechanism that makes horde want to loose in AV, since queues are basically instant.

Having both a lvl 61 protection spec'd warrior and a lvl 61 bm spec'd hunter, I know quite abit about morons. It's true, every class has them. But honestly, until I started playing my hunter, I never realized just how many bad, bad, bad warriors there are out there. And let me state right off. How you play on your own time is completely your business, but when you're in an instance with a group, whether it be pug or guild run, people expect you to play your class the way it is usually played. These methods are tried and true and they work. If you want to do something different, fine. But talk it over with your group first and be open to any and all ridicule that you will inevitably recieve.

Now back to the warriors. You dont have to be protection spec'd to be a good tank. I chose that spec because my warrior is used for guild runs only. I love playing my hunter and hardly ever want reason to go back to the warrior. But one thing that is very important. You NEED to use a sheild. Any time I get into a pug with a warrior and see he has no shield, I usually find an excuse to leave. Its a guaranteed horrible run if I stay. Im not talking about lvl 52 warriors tanking SM. Im talking a lvl appropriate instance. Your job is to hold the agro and tank the damage. To use anything less the than the best sheild you can find is just ludarcris. Thats why you bring DPS classes. And if you've got the initial charge out of the way, go to Defensive stance and have that taunt on the ready. Dont skimp on the saunders. If I dont see them on a mob, especially a mini-boss fight early in an instance. I will ask you whats up. Being a warrior is a fairly easy class to play but being a good tank is a whole other story. I always suggest that everyone should do a little bit of research on their class and learn to play it to the best of their ability. If your serious about the game and dont want people calling you a "noob", you need to learn your role in an instance.
While playing my hunter, I have literally been kicked from partys when trying to give suggestions to the "noob" warrior leaders. I try to be nice, but of of course, no warrior wants a "huntard" telling them how to play their class. Doesnt matter if my main is a warrior thats been main tank on everything up to AQ.

As for hunters. Being a full beastmastery spec'd hunter, my pet is my tank. There's no way you would catch me up on a mob swinging away. It's silly to thing you can do more damage that way as a hunter. And if you are, something kis seriously wrong with your ranged weapon. Does't matter if I can pull off huge raptor crits, you wont see me trying.

I've seen people of all classes that "I" thought was playing wrong. Thats not saying a whole lot. If it works for them, hey, go for it. But if you are assigned a certain role, like main healer in a 5 man, dont be burning mana try dps mobs. You're just gonna **** people off. If you want to tank, then do it. If you want to dps, chose a class that is made for it. Even the hybrid classes have specializations. Just because you are capable of both dps and tanking, or dps and healing, or tanking and healing, doesn't mean you need to do both in a party. Thats what the party is for.

Sorry for such a long post, but servers are down, I'm bored, and hopefully I've enlightened a few.

p.s. Warriors, GET A SHIELD!!!!! Eventually you will be called upon to tank.

Edited, Jan 23rd 2007 7:31am by scudderfunk

so? i'm a resto druid. if a shadow priest wants to dps, that's fine by me. he's probably got a lot more dps than i do in either caster or kitty. throw in a vampiric embrace when necessary and it's all good.

yeah, im with quor alot.

like i was runnig stockades with a lock that loved AoE, and when possible/safe it makes sense, but he was wondering why i dindt just drop chalenging shot to get the aggro. it blows my mind that someone can tell me how to play my class (or do so to someone else) when they are really clueless about it. as a warrior and being expected to tank, i made a priest since tanks rely on healers so much, so i could understand them.
i think it was RFK with that same lock (my guild leader and still a good guy, just not quite understanding). hes set up for massive dps and i dont know, maybe it was a raid build or something like that, but he was expectant of heavy priest support, cause hed just straight spell and burn out his health, and he was trying to tell the priest he needed more healing. it urcked me that that way, especially with the rest of the group being pick up (including the priest)
if it was the quild together and the party was built to function that way sure, but hows that priest supposed to know hes got to watch the locks health so much

know what slot your char is made for in a party, and if your something out of the ordinary party job for your class, like your a warrior for dps, or a shadow priest, make sure your party knows that at the start, not in the middle of your first wipe
also druids and any class as versitile should make sure the party knows mainly what they are built for, but also what they are good at. recently iv been doing SM alot, and ive been asking (emphasis on asking) druids to side/ main tank (quickly found out right off that even when not speced for tanking they would steal aggro off me and also i was on the low end) first time it was a resto spec, but he was damn good a tanking and we had a priest anyways.