Why do people make fun of hunters?Follow

I also dislike a large majority of the Hunter population.
But I accept them into parties and give everyone a chance, just incase they're one of the 5% of GOOD hunters that don't roll on everything.

Last night, I met the worst hunter ever.
We were doing BRD, was a pretty good setup.
60 Warrior, 57 Priest, 60 Mage, 56 Hunter and 55 Shammy (me).

We're owning BRD something fierce, and then halfway through the instance, drama ensues.

The hunter was rolling on everything.
Grieves of Withering Despair, which would be a huge upgrade for me (he won this one...which pissed me right off.)
Second Wind, another nice item that would benefit the priest or myself. (The Priest won this one, so I wasn't too upset. but the fact that the hunter need-rolled it angered me).
He was rolling on everything tho, even Cloth.
He tried outrolling the warrior on a DPS sword, but the warrior won that one.
It was rediculous.

Some nice +Fire Resist mail gear dropped (with some decent +int) and we both rolled and I won that one. :)

after a while tho, this hunter started getting ****** at how we were outrolling him on "hunter gearz" and then just stood there for the rest of the instance.
he would only attack something if it was attacking him.
we wiped a few times, then kicked him and replaced him with someone else.
we owned BRD from that point on.

Well I am not reading all three pages, so if my response is a dupe enjoying reading a second time, but...

I feel hunters get such a bad rap is because everyone is one! The 3 top played classes on any server is Warrior, Rogue and Hunter. Hunter usually is the most played, and according to the WoW realms site, it is. So you most likey will see more dumbassary on any given sunday duw to the large amount of those who play. On my server we are choking to death on the amount of hunters.

Second. Gold farmers, Ni Hao! Almost all of them play hunter these days. It's quick to level, safe to level. And the farmers are now joining pug's, and basically just flat out ruining the hunter's name, more so.

They pull on top of the warrior, or go off on thier own and by the time the group is wondering where the hunter is, he's already dead in some corner. They don't roll for chests and ninja what they can.\

But all and all we ALL know what a solid class hunter truly is, and how fun it is to play one. But there's just too many...

No we can't stop there's nothing to do right now because of maintanence!

Speaking of crapass hunters. This is my public service announcement to all you hunters out there.


1. STOP WITH THE STAMINA AND INTELLECT STACKING. Agility or MAYBE attack power is a hunters bread and butter. I've seen way too many hunters wearing sh*tty gear so they will have higher MP and HP. The problem with this logic is that your higher numbers don't mean more survivability like you think because you will never get hit because you don't have the power to take hate from anyone.


2. Stop being lazy asses and making us real hunters look bad by toting around crappy blue cross bows. There is no excuse for a 60 hunter to be romping through MC with a frickin' blue crossbow. They suck. Period.


3. Hate to spoil your fun but rolling on attack power+ gear over a melee class is stupid. Look up the agi to ranged attack power equation. There is nothing wrong with putting power in a slot when you can't find a decent amount of agility. But there is no excuse for using attack power+ melee weapons when Bone slicing hatchets and/or Dawns edges are so much better (I'm speaking to the hunters who are pre-BWL and Naxx obviously. I'd laugh my *** off if I saw a hunter doing Naxx with a Blue Xbow and an Ice Barbed Spear or something)



Edited, Oct 17th 2006 at 9:30am PDT by Ayazz

Edited, Oct 17th 2006 at 9:43am PDT by Ayazz

Playing a class poorly isn't limited to hunters. Back when I was running SM on my mage the warrior/tank arrived to Cath with the illusionary staff as his weapon. We all had a good laugh and thought he was kidding, but he was soon booted when it turned out he wasn't. Hunters have to be organized and keep thier pet food supply and ammo supplies up. Nothing worse than just starting an instance and the hunter says "anyone have any meat" or "anyone have any arrows?" (as if everyone who doesn't use them would just happen to have some)Hunters are fun to play but are one of the more high maintenace chars due to your constant need for pet food and ammo.

I'd rather use a dwarven hand cannon. The slightly higher DPS and flaming cannonball proc makes it way better than any blue xbow (including bloodseeker). The only drawback is that all the mobs in MC are immune to the fire damage.

Not to mention the 2.90 speed is ideal for criticals. It has been mathmatically proven that the 2.90 speed ranged weapons have the highest critical rate (blizzard did this intentionally I'm assuming because Rhok'Delar is 2.90)

Edited, Oct 17th 2006 at 11:22am PDT by Ayazz

So you're one of those people who would rather be okay instead of good or really good instead of being the best. I say bleh to you sir. Settling for mediocrity fails. Farm up some gold and buy the gear you need to step up your game I say. Or maybe I'm just a little too hardcore about MMOs.

I only used MC as an example. The fact that DHC cannonball proc is ineffective there really doesn't matter as people don't just do MC.

If you truly think stacking +attack power over agility will result in more damage you're sorely mistaken. I have 446 base agility and regularly out-DPS hunters who are using lolXbows and attack power gear. Last I heard 1 agility = 2 ranged attack power. I haven't done any research on the subject in a while so I may be a bit off with that assumption but I suspect I'm correct. Agility is ALWAYS (read this carefully. ALWAYS) better than attack power when you can get it. PvE, PvP, it doesn't matter. This isn't some "in my opinon...." post. I stack nothing but agility and have PROVEN MATHMATICALLY that an agility hunter will out-DPS any other hunter out there.

And you're going to tell me that the .5 extra damage of the repeater is going to outweigh the DHC proc? No way. Not to mention the attack speed to critical relationship I mentioned. I don't have the link handy but I can tell you my dwarven hand cannon will out damage your repeater every time (probably in any battle except inside MC).

Um, look at my gear in my FFXI profile and tell me that I'd rather be "just ok" instead of being "good or really good."

There's a point where an upgrade is worth the cost, and there's a point where it isn't. When I can already out DPS people in epics in my guild with next to no epics, I don't see the need to do a minor upgrade when I was in line for a Hoodoo/Striker's Mark/Mandokir. I ended up quitting my Hunter before I got a chance to roll on one, but the fact still remains that there is a .5 DPS difference between DHC (208g Alla average, price on Draka at the time was 400g) and my free Bloodseeker.

Yeah, I'd shut up now.

(In case you're wondering, my FFXI gear on my RNG is pretty much the best you can get bar relic, especially considering I obtained all of it in less than 6 months.)

Your whole point #2 was to insult people carrying a blue crossbow in MC. My point is that your precious epic DHC is in fact an INFERIOR weapon in the situation you mentioned. Even without that situation that blue crossbow is very clost to the DHC. +1 to hit is very valuable is your gear/build isn't giving the necessary + to hit (6% i think). +4 agiility is 8 Ranged Attack Power, which is another .5 DPS. And the crossbow has a higher max attack than the DHC which means bigger crits.



1 Agility = 2 Ranged Attack Power. 53 agility = 1%crit If you want to compare two specific weapons, take the Peacemaker (+56 attack power, +1 to crit, +25 agility enchant) with your Dual Bone Slicing Hatchets (+13 agi, +5 sta, +15 agility enchants x2). The peacemaker will end up with 106 Ranged attack power and ~1.5% crit. Dual BSHs will end up at 112 attack power and 1% to crit. Pratically even. .5% crit vs 6 RAP.

READ THIS CAREFULLY - Agility is SITUATIONALLY better than attack power. If your build is 0/21/30 for Lightening Reflexes, you get a 15% bonus for agility. In that situation, you will get more RAP from agility than + attack power. If you're any other build, you don't. The other agility bonuses (+dodge, +armor) don't really matter much PVE. Whatever gives you more RAP is better.

If you want guides here you go. http://www.treehuggers.info/azuarc/azmaths.html

Shows DHC, under optimum use, giving 1 point of damage per cycle above the bloodseeker, and 3 above the repeater. 300 gold for 1 DPS under optimum conditions and NOT in MC...

Also looks to me like most of the melee weapons on the list are +attack power weapons...

Edited, Oct 18th 2006 at 5:34am PDT by Morfax

I use Ice Barbed Spear because it's got awesome agi and I can't find or buy anything better atm. Are you going to put me down for using it? This hunter is my first character and I have been told I play well by others. I'm not sure why but I get invited to groups but recently I have only been in BG's. I mainly use anything that will slow or stun the enemy from running with the flag or from trying to run past IB to take FW. I am a survival spec for now until I can afford to re-spec since I hit mid 50's for marksmen.

I mainly play PVP so I spend a lot of time in melee with the melee classes since the healers are usually commanding them to kill me to save their mana pools from my viper stink. I usually am successful at draining most of their mana so the others around me can finish off the people they were healing.

I personally would love to run some instances but I can't ever get the nerve up to ask people that I don't know to do something I have never done before. Anything I have done before is normally too low for exp and the gear isn’t anywhere near an upgrade for me.

If and when I ever do an instance and something drops that is an upgrade I will always ask if I can need the item. I only normally need on one item per group unless no one else can use it and again it's an upgrade for me. I have yet to step into BRD or any of the upper level instances because most of my guild is lower level and I usually spend most of my time running them through instances that I can solo.

I feel a bit abused from the lower levels in my guild because of that reason. I don't ever say anything and I just tell myself that when they get high enough they will help me in return.

If I ever have a greedy need roller in the group we either need on everything that drops or just boot them out of the group and find a replacement. I had a 28 mage roll a need on a 20 AC ring because he could really use the money from the sale in AH... As if no one else in the world needed gold in the game other than him. Boot to the head!!!

I also don't like it when people in general roll a need roll because the equipment is their class yet it's not an upgrade. Bonk on the head!!! Everyone else needs gold too you jerk.

P.S
Mazra u suck toilet