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#77 Sep 30 2006 at 2:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Saw this near the start, had to reply... Hand of Righteousness actually IS the best Mace a Rogue can equip for Sinister Strike and Hemo in the 30-39 tier. I wouldn't really care about that mace as a Priest or Druid, Illusionary Rod would be much better.

Pretty sure I can't add anything about why people make fun of hunters that hasn't already been added.
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To Mazra: Not saying it was a good choice, but the hunter almsot certainly had Thunderfury to keep u the proc spamming rank 1 wingclip, which is one of the best ways to keep it up. And past MC, hunter dps is teh lul, so the raid isn't missing out on much there. And as they're spamming rank 1 clip, even with the proc aggro they won't pull aggro from the MT.



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Sheild? 1hander? Taunt? "hai guys i dont tank im fury spec" ZOMG I USE WHILRWIND NEXT TO SHEEPED ANGRY GUY. Sadly thats all i can think of for them.


I love these guys. They make me look awesome by comparison.


I have outtanked clueless protection warriors. I've held entire pulls on me like glue, consistantly; I love tanking. I grin a little when my mods tell me that in that entire run of Dead Strath, I was critted a total of 11 times. I can turn a bad overpull into a hard but survivable fight.

And I'm a fury warrior by spec. I just love the class, and everyone tells me I'm damn good at playing it. Wannabe fury warriors are a dime a dozen on my server, so my strategy was to stand out by being good at what I do.

I'd argue the same goes for a hunter. Yes, there are idiots. But you'll find that that actually makes it very easy to make a name for yourself if you work at it; when people see a good hunter, they remember you.
#80 Oct 02 2006 at 12:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Yanari wrote:
This thread would be a good example of why I just stick to soloing with my hunter.


And that's a good example of why this thread even exists. Soloing is great, but if you plan on ever doing an instance with four other people, soloing is the devil. Basically you'll be a newbie once you hit level 60, and then comes the drama after your first instance run.

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To Mazra: Not saying it was a good choice, but the hunter almsot certainly had Thunderfury to keep u the proc spamming rank 1 wingclip, which is one of the best ways to keep it up. And past MC, hunter dps is teh lul, so the raid isn't missing out on much there. And as they're spamming rank 1 clip, even with the proc aggro they won't pull aggro from the MT.


So you're saying a Hunter should spam Wing Clip Rank 1 to proc the Thunderfury attack?

Gee, do all Hunters roll the class to melee? What happened to standing far away and unleashing arrows/bullets on the target? I would've thought a level 60 Hunter could do more damage from distance using special attacks than spamming Wing Clip on the target, hoping for a weapon proc.

Edited, Oct 2nd 2006 at 1:09am PDT by Mazra
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If you dont know wtf you are supposed to do by lv 30 then l2play games.

i knew what all jobs did at lv 1, THIS IS NOT ROCKET SIENCE

Rogues: well dah, they ambush and kill ****

Warriors: not so dah, but they use a shield and tank, or kick ***. if you never have played mmorpg before i understand if you dont know what a tank is.

Priest: ... too many times at lv 40 i see priests in group as healers, only to cast sw pain on eveery ******* mob, shield the warrior, if they have some extra time, LETS DO MIND BLAST! YAAAY! just heal for ***** sake, thats the ONLY reason you are there if something else is not specified, you heal, thats what you do, nothing else, no sw pain, no nothing just heal, if everyone is at full hp, you do nothing to let your mana regen)

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i herd you shouldnt use pets in instances, am i rite? or was the guy juyst idioth?
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#82 Oct 02 2006 at 1:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Mazra wrote:

So you're saying a Hunter should spam Wing Clip Rank 1 to proc the Thunderfury attack?

Gee, do all Hunters roll the class to melee? What happened to standing far away and unleashing arrows/bullets on the target? I would've thought a level 60 Hunter could do more damage from distance using special attacks than spamming Wing Clip on the target, hoping for a weapon proc.


Sorry mazra, not to be an *** but have you played a hunter in the end game? Once a hunter's guild passes MC he becomes a useless member of the guild. It is very difficult to do any real DPS as a hunter at that point. I know of several guilds that once they moved on to naxx they let all but about 4 of their hunters go because they just arent needed.

A hunter with a thunderfury could very well be one who has run MC a thousand times with several guilds that had it on farm. Maybe he happened to go on a few runs where it dropped and the warriors already had it. What do you care what said hunter spends his money on? If he wants to get all the elementium and whatnot then maybe it is because there isnt a thing to spend your money on after you start farming MC. Buy some potions/ammo/food before the raid and repair after it and that is the extent of the point of having gold.


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Priest: ... too many times at lv 40 i see priests in group as healers, only to cast sw pain on eveery @#%^ing mob, shield the warrior, if they have some extra time, LETS DO MIND BLAST! YAAAY! just heal for @#%^s sake, thats the ONLY reason you are there if something else is not specified, you heal, thats what you do, nothing else, no sw pain, no nothing just heal, if everyone is at full hp, you do nothing to let your mana regen)


Wow, you are a moron. Have you ever heard of burnout in the healing classes? It happens. Staring at Mr. UBER733T warrior's health bar for 3 hours is enough to put accountants to sleep. It is people like you who cause all the priests/resto druids/holy pallies to hate the game and reroll to UBER733T rogue's... What differance could it possibly make if the priest throws a SW:P on a mob that is being tanked? As long as the tank stays alive and the group doesnt wipe what do you care? If the party does wipe then the healer needs to work on his skill/equipment/timing. It doesnt mean he has to conform to your rules on how things should be done.

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#83 Oct 02 2006 at 2:43 AM Rating: Default
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Lapidis Tankard of Tidesippe in my other hand, giving me a nice AGI


Ummmm the tankard TAKES off Agi, stupid.
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#84 Oct 02 2006 at 5:01 AM Rating: Decent
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some of you are really funny, although i suspect not on purpose.

even if i had a million gold, i probably wouldn't bother with tf as a hunter. why? it's crap. there are much better hunter weapons out there. end of story. ok, if you want the only legendary you can get to stand around in if, go ahead. still useless. spamming wing clip rank one to get the proc? i lol'd. if the hunter has tf, i hope the mt already has it. so what good is this? healer mana sink? raid dps reduction from not doing your job? you must be off your rocker.

a well-played hunter can still do some good dps in raids. and they can do it without threat worries. in naxx it's a different story but hunters are still excellent pullers. so yes, not as good as they used to be, but still usefull. i agree that you don't need more than 3 or so.

one of the problems with hunter dps is that many don't know optimal shooting cycles for their weapon and unwittingly gimp their dps.
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#85 Oct 03 2006 at 7:16 AM Rating: Decent
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I could be wrong, but I think the troll was talking about the thread in general and more specifically was answering the question in the title.


This is true.
And I am not trolling O.o

As for my real answer to the thread question...
People make fun of almost every other class they that don't play daily. I am not saying all do, but a lot of them.

There are also stereotypes, several for certain classes. For instance, some people like to think that a lot of rogues are emo O.o idk why, but w/e.

To sum it up :P
You should not care if other people make fun of your class! You should like what you like, no matter what anyone else tells you. Don't give in to peer pressure.

Cheers mate! And best of luck to...uh....with your problems :)

BTW, I play a dwarf rogue, so please don't refer to me as a troll ^_^
#86 Oct 03 2006 at 8:09 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't play my hunter anymore. She farms for my alt which will hit 60 and move forward.

Why? My long standing guild broke up. The leaders had too many things going on in RL, so they decided to join up with another guild and bring their best guildies along if they could. I was one they pushed to go with them. Many tried for me, but the new guild was full of hunters that they had been used to working with, so there really was no place for me.

Now, in PUGs .. a simple UBRS run .. they wanted to know my gear, how long I've played, how many times I've kited, my resume, and a blood sample. To me it was ridiculous. Drakk is about the easiest pull in the game. (/sigh)

Try again with another guild? Yes I could have. But I want to have fun, not "prove" myself to people, while other classes are just randomly accepted. I hate being watched with a skeptical eye because people think I'm going to roll on loot I don't need. I've never done that. I'm not a dumbass that takes gear that isn't designed for me and make an *** out of myself.

So .. eventually it became "unfun" for me.

It's a bad cycle. The bad hunters stay, and a bunch of the good hunters leave.

So I'm leveling a priest now, and when I find a good guild (I'm not a guild hopper, so I don't just jump in and out of guilds) .. then my hunter can come out of retirement again.
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#87 Oct 03 2006 at 9:09 AM Rating: Good
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Wondroustremor the Flatulent wrote:
Lapidis Tankard of Tidesippe in my other hand, giving me a nice AGI


Ummmm the tankard TAKES off Agi, stupid.

Yes, I am. Smiley: cry
I just looked it up- WTF was I looking at when I bought it!? Thank goodness it was only 5G. Crap, I feel like an idiot- and nobody in my guild corrected me! (I saw it as +15 AGI!!!)

Man.... I am a n00b. Smiley: frown
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Wondroustremor the Flatulent wrote:
Zurckoneos wrote:
Wondroustremor the Flatulent wrote:
Lapidis Tankard of Tidesippe in my other hand, giving me a nice AGI


Ummmm the tankard TAKES off Agi, stupid.

Yes, I am. Smiley: cry
I just looked it up- WTF was I looking at when I bought it!? Thank goodness it was only 5G. Crap, I feel like an idiot- and nobody in my guild corrected me! (I saw it as +15 AGI!!!)

Man.... I am a n00b. Smiley: frown



Beyond hilarious.


My Warrior one that out of ZG, someone combat looted and I just greeded it and won. Damn I was pissed, blew a good roll on a peice of crap.
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#89 Oct 03 2006 at 12:56 PM Rating: Decent
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@OP: Because Hunters suck.

No, really. While levelling they tend to be loot whores that have very little knowledge of their class, are overpopulated and vastly overrepresent the 11-13 year old WoW Demographic. Not that levels mean all that much in this game, but they mean the least to Hunters (read as: easiest soloing class, bar none) in weeding out idiots.

At level 60 and in raiding, their DPS is terrible since they just do NOT scale very well. Get some combination that lets you get 3-4 for when you need them (i.e. Tranq Shot) and don't recruit any more.

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Sorry mazra, not to be an *** but have you played a hunter in the end game? Once a hunter's guild passes MC he becomes a useless member of the guild. It is very difficult to do any real DPS as a hunter at that point. I know of several guilds that once they moved on to naxx they let all but about 4 of their hunters go because they just arent needed.

A hunter with a thunderfury could very well be one who has run MC a thousand times with several guilds that had it on farm. Maybe he happened to go on a few runs where it dropped and the warriors already had it. What do you care what said hunter spends his money on? If he wants to get all the elementium and whatnot then maybe it is because there isnt a thing to spend your money on after you start farming MC. Buy some potions/ammo/food before the raid and repair after it and that is the extent of the point of having gold.


They broke the Wing Clip->TF proc deal. It used to be crazy DPS, but it hasn't worked for a long time.
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#90 Oct 03 2006 at 5:51 PM Rating: Decent
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"Sorry, but you're wrong. As a tank and a priest, I can tell you that when a hunter pulls and it's multiple mobs, it's pretty hard getting all of the aggro. Especially if you're at zero rage. Blood rage will not give you enough rage to grab aggro from +3 mobs. That's why I'd rather charge in and thunderclap when doing something like Stratholme. I don't trust pullers, the reason why, is because you make a tanks job harder, the priest pays for it, and both get blamed while hunters feign death.

Don't try to blame things on other classes. This is one reason why people who play hunters are disliked."

So instead, you get to tell hunters how to play their class and blame everything on them? Why don't you let us play our class the way we want? As long as we aren't causing wipes, and were being useful to the group, back off.

Yea, I play a Hunter, and I am sick and tired of people always telling me exactly what items I can and can't have and exactly how I have to play. I don't tell other people what to do, so stop telling me. Granted, I know how to play a Hunter as a general rule, I know what as a general rule the things I should need/greed on, and I know how to keep my pet on a tight leash when needed.

Everybody stereotypes the hunters, but I tend to notice that most people who bash hunters all day long never bash other classes. Why? Other classes arent perfect at all, but apparently, their mistakes always get overlooked as "hes just new" whereas a hunters mistakes get looked at as "god, what a n00btard...I bet hes 9 years old."

I've read through this entire thread, and most of the stuff I see is people playing with stupid hunters. I've played with more than my share of other classes who had no idea what they are doing, and yet, I don't see any threads bashing those classes. People need to get a clue, hunters are a perfectly viable class. It's stupid people who make hunters suck.
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Wondroustremor the Flatulent wrote:
Zurckoneos wrote:
Wondroustremor the Flatulent wrote:
Lapidis Tankard of Tidesippe in my other hand, giving me a nice AGI


Ummmm the tankard TAKES off Agi, stupid.

Yes, I am. Smiley: cry
I just looked it up- WTF was I looking at when I bought it!? Thank goodness it was only 5G. Crap, I feel like an idiot- and nobody in my guild corrected me! (I saw it as +15 AGI!!!)

Man.... I am a n00b. Smiley: frown


It's ok, i think we've all made our stupid mistakes. But yours was just more stupid.
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#92 Oct 03 2006 at 7:29 PM Rating: Decent
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I play a 51 hunter on Black Dragonflight named Rrolly.

I believe if you are considerate to others needs above your own you will do well in the game. I don't have great gear and I am usually up for anything and happy to get any type of exp invite or instance. I don't normally get asked unless it's by those who have grouped with me before and know that I know what I am doing.

I don't like those people who need roll stuff that they want to AH... I'm sorry but if someone in the group can either use it or sell it just the same as you then they should have the same opportunity as anyone else does. I usually run lower levels through instances just asking to greed roll on things they can’t use. I have seen many players need everything but the kitchen sink which makes everyone else in the group pissed and after the 2nd time of telling them to stop needing things you can’t use I boot them from the group.

Hunters are easy to play and yes we can basically level up to 60 without ever getting into a group because we are a utility class which just means that we can play many different rolls in a group when needed. Last night I was in ST and we had a priest, mage, warlock, rogue and me (hunter) I played tank for the most part. No wipes until the last dragon and that was because I was sleeping through the whole wipe... I cant really be to blame for that LOL.. Yes sleeping affect was the dragons spell and not my head on my keyboard. I mainly CC when in groups I stick my pets on additional mobs that aren't sheep’d or other wise CC'd and I manage agro when the squishy one’s gain agro.

My system is:
If you are selfish in real life then you’re going to be a bad player in the game.
If you are selfless, you will get farther and have a lot more fun.
Put others needs before your own and they will invite you back to groups for the future.
Never need anything that you cannot use... without asking the group first.
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Stand up for yourself when someone tries to take advantage of your kindness.

I hate it when people invite me to groups and run everyone else into the ground just to loot the item when everyone else is dead. It happens you just don't know it because the jerk loots it before you get back to the instance.

Well that's my 2 cents at least.
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A hunter dual wielding Deathbringers. Enough said.
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I am very new to WoW. My b/f spent three months trying to convince me to play before I finally gave in. After a month, I'm now hooked, but that's another story. Anyway, my b/f sat down with me and discussed all the classes and I decided to go with hunter because it was a relatively cheap route and seemed to be best for my easily confused mind. I have only helped in one party so far, but I must say that welcome any chance to help someone that needs it, and I only do what they ask me to. For example, if asked to join a party so I can distract characters x and y while they go for characters w and k, then I will take care of my assigned targets and let them do their job. After I have killed the targets, I will ask if they want my help. I've never jumped on fallen items and I try to know my place in the group and not disturb the structure.

This is turning into a long rant and I'm not sure I'm getting my point across. Maybe all I really want to say is that not all hunters are bad and I hope someone will give me a chance to prove myself.
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So, the first time you hit 30 with a character, and had no experience on any other characters, you had all your talent points in the right place and you played your roles in parties perfectly and you never did anything stupid? And when you got to 60, you looked back at how you played that character at level 30 and wouldn't change a thing? Right...


Yeah. Pretty much.

Not the "never did anything stupid" part since I still pull boneheaded moves (everyone does), but I leveled slow and made sure I was the best player I could be at every level.

Don't project your experience on the world.

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As a hunter, I want a melee weapon as a trinket more than for melee DPS.


Melee Weapon:Hunter as Wand:Warlock - the stats matter more than the damage.

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I resent the warlock comment. we're not exactly direct dps classes.


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#97 Oct 16 2006 at 7:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Hunters reminded me of the Rangers in EQ. Ranged DPS, good at kiting and pulling but still a squishy.

Hunters will always compete with Rogues & Shamans for gear. Simply because the 3 have similar attributes. IMO, roll if you need.

But all hunters really need are decent range items. The rest is just gravy, especially if you just stick to PVE.

For PVP: you can get your own gear from the PVP rewards anyway.
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#98 Oct 16 2006 at 7:53 PM Rating: Decent
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yendorII wrote:
Mazra wrote:

So you're saying a Hunter should spam Wing Clip Rank 1 to proc the Thunderfury attack?

Gee, do all Hunters roll the class to melee? What happened to standing far away and unleashing arrows/bullets on the target? I would've thought a level 60 Hunter could do more damage from distance using special attacks than spamming Wing Clip on the target, hoping for a weapon proc.


Sorry mazra, not to be an *** but have you played a hunter in the end game? Once a hunter's guild passes MC he becomes a useless member of the guild. It is very difficult to do any real DPS as a hunter at that point. I know of several guilds that once they moved on to naxx they let all but about 4 of their hunters go because they just arent needed.

You calling anyone else a moron is laughable. Seriously, I'm rofl'ing here.

I have played Hunter in the endgame. I out DPSed the morons in my guild who had nearly full tier 1 in pre-buff PvP armor. Seriously. You can check my Hunter's profile to see his gear.

Yes, 90% of Hunters are morons. Know why? Because half of the server population is Hunters.
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The (level 41) pally attempted to tank Uldaman with Kang. (2H epic axe)



First off the kang is a level 44 axe, not a 41.

Second of all I don't understand why pallies are acceptable as tanks. Because their mana runs out rather than regenerates like rage so you can't constantly do spells? Because their huge dps keeps all the mobs on them? What is it that makes people enjoy them as tanks?


The second part is just a little rant about pallies as tanks :P
#100 Oct 16 2006 at 8:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually, I've had groups on my Hunter that did quite well with Pally tanks. Of course I couldn't do my normal DPS like I could with a good Warrior, but with a good Pally, a group can work. (The group was 2x Hunter, 2x Pally, 1x Druid. It was actually a lot of fun. Smiley: lol)
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#101 Oct 16 2006 at 9:21 PM Rating: Decent
I'm pretty new on wow, but for the looting of hunters the real problem should be only if hunters and rouges are both in the party, otherwise i wuold really say that a hunter can use a +ai meele better than a warrior, like morfax wrote lots of classes need multiple sets of gear, hunters insted are simpler, they just need the most agi they can get becasue it's the job.
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