Morfax wrote:
"The argument about hunters needing on every item is unfortunate. I look at it this way- if a melee weapon has stats that benefit a warrior, he should Need it. If it's something that has stats that benefits a rogue, he should Need it. If it's a weapon that has stats that benefits a hunter, he should see if it's a significant upgrade for the people that would use it more (i.e., the warrior or rogue). If not, then he should need it. It's rather unfortunate that rogues and hunters want the same agility items. However, common sense would suggest that since a hunter wants people to respect his primary right to any ranged weapon, he should respect melee-based classes' rights to melee weapons. "
There just seem to be a huge double standard there for me. As a hunter, I want a melee weapon as a trinket more than for melee DPS. I'll be using it all the time, benefitintg from its stats. Warriors are not looked at twice for wanting a DPS two hander, dual weild DPS swords, AND a tanking weapon. Pallys want DPS, Tanking, and healing weapons. And they want ALL OF THEM and feel entitled to ALL OF THEM. I just want a big two hander with good stats for me and some decent DPS for my occasional raptor strike. And I"M the loot *****?
I think you're missing my point- hunters have a right to armour and melee weapons as well as everyone else. However, some hunters tend to conveniently overlook the fact that while it might boost your stats, it might actually be a more appropriate upgrade for a rogue. For example, I have a
Scarlet Kris and a
Lapidis Tankard of Tidesippe in my other hand, giving me a nice AGI boost. However, if I had been in a group and it would have been a significant upgrade for a rogue,
who melees all the time, I would have let him do the Need roll and I would have passed. Why? Because, while I
can use it, I still feel that the benefits to the rogue (better DPS
and better stats as well) outweigh my "right" to it. It's not whether something is usable or not- it's common courtesy, something that it seems that people often lack in the game- regardless of class. It's no different to me than why I don't roll Need on cloth or leather armor after level 40 that has +AGI stats. I can use mail. Rogues and caster classes can't. Granted, I don't see many casters Needing +AGI cloth armour, but I bet that any rogue would be pissed to see a hunter over level 40 rolling Need on leather- and I'd agree with them. It's no different than if I saw a rogue rolling Need on
Eaglehorn Long Bow over my Need for the same excuse you gave- it would make a nice trinket with good stat bonuses for him.
It's not a question of "Can I benefit from this item?" without considering the rest of your group. It's a question of "Will I benefit more than <insertclasshere> in my group?" Don't be selfish by taking what you want without considering everyone else that contributed to the group. Be a team player if you want to play in groups. You want to be selfish, then play solo.