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#52 Sep 29 2006 at 11:28 AM Rating: Decent
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/claimed in the name of Hunters everyone! Who are we to tell them that they don't need cloth +healing gear to improve their Mend Pet????
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#53 Sep 29 2006 at 11:32 AM Rating: Default
Get back with the casters and shoot your bow.
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#54 Sep 29 2006 at 11:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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"The argument about hunters needing on every item is unfortunate. I look at it this way- if a melee weapon has stats that benefit a warrior, he should Need it. If it's something that has stats that benefits a rogue, he should Need it. If it's a weapon that has stats that benefits a hunter, he should see if it's a significant upgrade for the people that would use it more (i.e., the warrior or rogue). If not, then he should need it. It's rather unfortunate that rogues and hunters want the same agility items. However, common sense would suggest that since a hunter wants people to respect his primary right to any ranged weapon, he should respect melee-based classes' rights to melee weapons. "


There just seem to be a huge double standard there for me. As a hunter, I want a melee weapon as a trinket more than for melee DPS. I'll be using it all the time, benefitintg from its stats. Warriors are not looked at twice for wanting a DPS two hander, dual weild DPS swords, AND a tanking weapon. Pallys want DPS, Tanking, and healing weapons. And they want ALL OF THEM and feel entitled to ALL OF THEM. I just want a big two hander with good stats for me and some decent DPS for my occasional raptor strike. And I"M the loot *****?


I think you're missing my point- hunters have a right to armour and melee weapons as well as everyone else. However, some hunters tend to conveniently overlook the fact that while it might boost your stats, it might actually be a more appropriate upgrade for a rogue. For example, I have a Scarlet Kris and a Lapidis Tankard of Tidesippe in my other hand, giving me a nice AGI boost. However, if I had been in a group and it would have been a significant upgrade for a rogue, who melees all the time, I would have let him do the Need roll and I would have passed. Why? Because, while I can use it, I still feel that the benefits to the rogue (better DPS and better stats as well) outweigh my "right" to it. It's not whether something is usable or not- it's common courtesy, something that it seems that people often lack in the game- regardless of class. It's no different to me than why I don't roll Need on cloth or leather armor after level 40 that has +AGI stats. I can use mail. Rogues and caster classes can't. Granted, I don't see many casters Needing +AGI cloth armour, but I bet that any rogue would be pissed to see a hunter over level 40 rolling Need on leather- and I'd agree with them. It's no different than if I saw a rogue rolling Need on Eaglehorn Long Bow over my Need for the same excuse you gave- it would make a nice trinket with good stat bonuses for him.

It's not a question of "Can I benefit from this item?" without considering the rest of your group. It's a question of "Will I benefit more than <insertclasshere> in my group?" Don't be selfish by taking what you want without considering everyone else that contributed to the group. Be a team player if you want to play in groups. You want to be selfish, then play solo.
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#55 Sep 29 2006 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
What frustrates me a lot is the fact that I *have* a 60 hunter, so I know a little bit about playing them... the other night we took down Wyrmthalak (I was on my 60 warrior) and a guild hunter rolled NEED on Relentless Scythe ... when the other 60 warrior that was along needed it. "But it has better stats than what I have now and more dps!" We tried to explain that the +20 STR was totally useless for him, and that hunters shouldn't be meleeing much, but by then it was too late. He tried to not loot it so someone else would get it, not understanding how the looting system worked. He rolled like a greedy loot *****, and now there was no way of getting out of it.

Two days later, we do another LBRS run, trying to get people keyed for UBRS, and he wants to be invited. I tell him he can come as long as he asks before rolling need on anything, and he was taken aback by that. I asked him why he was so surprised because he rolled need on a warrior/paladin sword. He claimed to know what stats were good for his class, and took offense, and said he didn't want to have a bad rep and be the guild ***** Finally, he just quit the guild, taking his friend with him. Saved me the trouble of kicking him.

I almost feel ashamed when logging my hunter on, because I have played with way too many other hunters that don't know a damned thing about the class, and that makes everyone look at us thinking we're idiots.
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Mistress GothicVoodoo wrote:
What frustrates me a lot is the fact that I *have* a 60 hunter, so I know a little bit about playing them... the other night we took down Wyrmthalak (I was on my 60 warrior) and a guild hunter rolled NEED on Relentless Scythe ... when the other 60 warrior that was along needed it. "But it has better stats than what I have now and more dps!" We tried to explain that the +20 STR was totally useless for him, and that hunters shouldn't be meleeing much, but by then it was too late. He tried to not loot it so someone else would get it, not understanding how the looting system worked. He rolled like a greedy loot *****, and now there was no way of getting out of it.

Two days later, we do another LBRS run, trying to get people keyed for UBRS, and he wants to be invited. I tell him he can come as long as he asks before rolling need on anything, and he was taken aback by that. I asked him why he was so surprised because he rolled need on a warrior/paladin sword. He claimed to know what stats were good for his class, and took offense, and said he didn't want to have a bad rep and be the guild ***** Finally, he just quit the guild, taking his friend with him. Saved me the trouble of kicking him.

I almost feel ashamed when logging my hunter on, because I have played with way too many other hunters that don't know a damned thing about the class, and that makes everyone look at us thinking we're idiots.


Premium and one post, that might be the first time I've seen that.
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#57 Sep 29 2006 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
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BismarcksFinest wrote:
Premium and one post, that might be the first time I've seen that.


Bismarck and no naughty comment, that is DEFINITELY the first time I've seen that.

You okay, man? Need a pill or something?
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#58 Sep 29 2006 at 12:56 PM Rating: Decent
Site was too laggy to bother posting before, with the ads all over. Even with FireFox it was annoying. Premium is cheap, and I figured I'd try to get my money's worth as well... anyway.
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Site was too laggy to bother posting before, with the ads all over. Even with FireFox it was annoying. Premium is cheap, and I figured I'd try to get my money's worth as well... anyway.


Great!

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#60 Sep 29 2006 at 1:02 PM Rating: Decent
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mazra... you let me down, i was hoping you'd make a sock and keep your account at 9999
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I thought about it, but seeing as Mazra technically is a sock... Smiley: dubious

Or was.

I'll totally own you at 99,999 posts though.

Edited, Sep 29th 2006 at 2:12pm PDT by Mazra
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#62 Sep 29 2006 at 1:12 PM Rating: Decent
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you made this little boy cry :cry:
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#63 Sep 29 2006 at 1:44 PM Rating: Decent
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After reading every post, I finally understand why I don't get a lot of interaction in the game. Occasionally, I'll get spit on by some trolls, but that's about it. Come to think of it, I've only been in about two instances since my 86 level career as a hunter (50 as a Orc, 36 as a Night Elf).

As an ex-Warrior, I must say it's a different world being a Hunter. And believe it or not, it's kinda refreshing.
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As far as thunderfury, what if the guild had MC on farm, and all the warriors and such had the quest items already or didn't want to bother. You saw a guy wearing a weapon who was a hunter and labeled him a n00b hunter when you knew nothing about how he got it. That's my point.
Things like that are why I make fun of hunters.
Thunderfury isn't just "get some drops, kill a boss, complete a quest, get a legendary."

You need 2 EXTREMELY RARE drops, a **** ton of arcanite/elementium/mats, tons of hard work, a boss fight, and multiple quests.
And even after all of that, it's not even close to being considered a good weapon for hunters. There are a TON of better weapons for hunters considering dps, cost, and effectiveness.

It sounds like you don't know half of what it takes to get a thunderfury.
My guild has had MC on farm for 6-7 months, and we STILL don't have one of the bindings. From what I hear, that's not uncommon either.

I also knew a hunter who feined durring a wipe, recovered, and proceded to rez his PET instead of the priest via goblin jumper cables to "save mana."

Anyone who doesn't understand there is a specific way the game is meant to be played deserves to be made fun of.

So for now, I'll just say "lolhunterthunderfurymeleelern2playkthxbye"
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Mazra wrote:
I thought about it, but seeing as Mazra technically is a sock... Smiley: dubious

Or was.

I'll totally own you at 99,999 posts though.

Edited, Sep 29th 2006 at 2:12pm PDT by Mazra


This account was originally a sock... my other one has somewhere around... eh maybe 600? 500? I don't even remember.

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Bismarck and no naughty comment, that is DEFINITELY the first time I've seen that.

You okay, man? Need a pill or something?


I try to be nice to the new people. Especially when they aren't total idiots.

It's a shame you're 0 for 2 on that one.
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#66 Sep 29 2006 at 4:50 PM Rating: Good
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Could someone please explain to me how to "Tame the Beast"?


Using the stick on it and standing there letting it kill you 3 times doesn't seem to be working too well for meSmiley: confused

thnx
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#67 Sep 29 2006 at 6:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Because of threads like this.
#68 Sep 29 2006 at 6:49 PM Rating: Good
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Mandreekel wrote:
Because of threads like this.


I ask an honest question and find a bad troll


how predictably surprising.Smiley: dubious
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#69 Sep 30 2006 at 1:24 AM Rating: Good
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Drop a Freezing Trap before taming. Alternatively, use Scare Beast before taming, but make sure the beast doesn't pull other animals when feared.

Edited, Sep 30th 2006 at 2:49am PDT by Mazra
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#70 Sep 30 2006 at 1:42 AM Rating: Default
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Not all hunters are dumbasses, save you eletist comments for them.
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OldHolburn wrote:
Not all hunters are dumbasses, save you eletist comments for them.


I never said all hunters were dumbasses.

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1. the greater part or number; the number larger than half the total (opposed to minority)


It's funny though. I call some people stupid and I get a lot of stupid replies saying I'm the stupid one.

Edited, Sep 30th 2006 at 2:48am PDT by Mazra
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As others before said, you are generalising on the CLASS depended on bad players you have found. I've partied with gimped rogues,mages who AoE everything, priests who go AFK and don't rez, priests who just got their shadowform and think they can tank and never heal, warriors who don't taunt, people who roll on EVERYTHING and when we complain they say missclick (yeah 4 missclicks in a row for PLATE items).
Most bad hunters don't know what their class does, don't know how to use their skills or their pets. I have never EVER caused a whipe because of my pet. First time I ran gnomeragan we jumped down to the slime area and I knew I had to dismiss my pet because it would walk arround and pull 20 mobs on us. Just that people don't think about what their class does and how, not a fault of the hunter class.
Regarding loot, you just need to talk a bit with people although you will ALWAYS get the idiot who tries to pass off his need rolls as missclicks. When I was lv40 I was using a 2h axe from the deadmines, then a +17 agi sword dropped and I wanred the group that I will roll on it, they saw my gear and all agreed (they passed even). The trick is to play with friends, that way you eliminated the idiot factor and you learn how to play your class.
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#73 Sep 30 2006 at 2:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Kelvyquayo wrote:
Mandreekel wrote:
Because of threads like this.


I ask an honest question and find a bad troll


how predictably surprising.Smiley: dubious


I could be wrong, but I think the troll was talking about the thread in general and more specifically was answering the question in the title.

Then again, I got a D in troll studies. They say it was too much time playing video games. Who knows? They could be right.

Edited, Sep 30th 2006 at 3:46am PDT by Poldaran
#74 Sep 30 2006 at 2:45 AM Rating: Decent
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It's not generalizing if they really are stupid.

That being said, I only make fun of stupid people.
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#75 Sep 30 2006 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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This thread would be a good example of why I just stick to soloing with my hunter.
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#76 Sep 30 2006 at 12:01 PM Rating: Decent
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This thread doesn't make a whole lot of sense, i've never had a prob with a hunter and they have been in quite a few of my PUG's.........maybe it's a server thing.

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