Why do people make fun of hunters?Follow

I've heard it before-people always think hunters don't deserve a lot of things, including bows and guns lol....I'm just wondering why? Everyone always say that hunters suck on my server and all the loot should go to other people....why? are hunters really that hated ? lol

most possible reason most of the ppl think that most hunter players do not play their class well...

1) they have been wiped by them cos they forgot to dismiss pet when jumping into the arena in UBRS.
2) wiped cos hunter forgot to set pet to stay at one place. most setted to aggresive or defensive
3) also feel tat hunters like to roll on gear that would be better for other classes esp melee weapons... hunters seems to me think that they have a right for them as much as the rogue or warrior....

last but not least the number of huntards who really do not know their class running around getting deadzoned and killed (when i think deadzone still can be avoided with FD...)

I went to Scarlet Monastery last night with my Orc Warrior. The Hunter in the group would continously run ahead and pull a bunch of mobs, then ***** at me because I couldn't take aggro. Also, while the Priest was out of mana he would continue to run ahead and pull a new group of mobs. He even managed to pull the boss (Mograine) before I had recovered my health and the Priest had finished drinking.

After finishing the Cathedral the Hunter begged us to do a second run. Turns out he had been speed-pulling because he wanted to hit level 40 in an hour. We all declined his invitation and he left with the words: "ur the wrst gruopup ever" (his exact words).

Then I logged on my Human Warlock and tried to do Scarlet Monastery again. This time the Hunter insisted on doing Cathedral without a healer. Not even a secondary healer (Paladin/Druid). I gave him leadership after he told me he knew a Priest. He invited a Mage instead and when we told him that we couldn't do Cathedral without a healer he kicked our only Warrior and wrote the following in the LFG channel: "LFM SM Cath - healer & tank" (not his exact words).

Then there's the time where a Hunter outrolled our Priest on the Triune Amulet. And she outrolled our Paladin on Hand of Righteousness. No, Hunters can't use maces.

Oh, and one time a Hunter ninja looted the Ravager axe from Herod. Note the lack of stats on that axe. Not to mention the time where a Hunter rolled on a BOP plate drop in Maraudon. When we told him he couldn't wear plate he replied: "it's for my m8". GG, asshOle, it binds on pickup.

I once saw a Hunter with Thunderfury. While it does have some beneficial stats (+4 agility, +8 stamina and some resistance) I've seen better on other blue items.

Why do I make fun of Hunters?

Because the vast majority are dumbasses. That's why.

Edited, Sep 29th 2006 at 2:23am PDT by Mazra

Good & experienced players get annoyed with bad & selfish players, irrespective of class.... But I guess hunters get particularly bad press because there are an awful lot of them and the whole touchy-feely "want a pretty pet thing" tends to appeal to teens and new players a great deal.....Having your pet on anything other than passive in an instance is generally trouble, certainly.

But my pet hate (yeah I'm a hunter !) is warriors (yeah there are plenty of dumbasses in that category too) that think they are in 5m instances for DPS and don't / won't / can't tank....

Why haven't you got a sheild ?
Why won't you stay still and aggro mobs?
Why do you think it is a great idea to run sideways, backwards and forwards bringing mobs so close / far / out of line of sight that your hunters can't do their job ?
Why do you insist on pulling 100s of mobs instead of letting your group dispose of them efficiently in manageable twos or threes ?
Why do you run away as soon as your health gets low, ensuring group wipes ?

Just WHY ?

Ow, Mazra, that hurts. But now I begin to understand why people never want me in their PUG as a hunter and why I see "Looking for X random party members for XY, NO HUNTERS!" in the LFG chat so often ... *sigh*.

I can say that I've never caused any looting drama because I always ask before needing, and I never ask for anything unreasonable. Still, the bad reputation of some hunters makes life hard for the good ones.

To put things into perspective - not only hunters are dumbasses when it comes to looting. On my last 2 UBRS runs I had a priest without the skinning skill outroll me on finkle's skinner (because it was an "upgrade") and a paladin outroll me on the pattern for the red dragonscale breastplate that drops from Drakki, because he "needed it for his guild's dragonscale leatherworker" (yes, ist's BOP) ... >.<

SM: Cath...

Lets all recap on what happened yesterday

Had a Warrior, mage, priest (me), hunter, hunter group (yay, 2 hunters)

anyway, we got to the entrance to the cathedral inside the instance.

Here i had to rebuff the whole group with fortitude... any priest knows that this buff consumes alot of mana and that you have to rest a couple times to get through the whole group.

Now, i told everyone to not pull since i had to rebuff, i went through the pt except me and started drinking.

now the ****** hunter had gotten his buff he ran to pull something while i had no mana

he got a link and we whiped, i told him what i felt about that one.

We ressed and ofcourse i had to buff again, so when i was out of mana the hunter pulled AGAIN and we whiped AGAIN. At this point i was really pissed at him, and i told him.

Then, we got back, ressed, and i told the whole pt to stand around me and the hunter to unplug his keyboard.

Now the Hunter pulled AGAIN and Hearted, leaving us to whipe again.

Thats why i dont like hunters

Not you, silly.

At least I don't think so..

I'm still fairly new to the game and my hunter is only level 23. I haven't done any instances or too much PvP'ing even though I'm on a PvP server. So what can I do to not be such a tard when I do start getting into large groups, raids, and such? I like to think I'm no idiot in the game, but there are many hunters making it a tough show it seems. Help me help you.

Most hunters tend to lvl from 0 to 60 without joining more then 5 groups their lifetime.
When they have to go to instances daily, they tend to continue with their selfish actions and dont care about the others.
And when the looting comes (if you manage to get down a boss) they just see everything as a hunter item...
And after the "hard work" of getting to 60 and working "alone" for everything, they just think they have the right to do so, even here.

Hunters got a bad reputation because:

1. EZ mode class (not arguable)
2. Too many hunters, provide too many idiot hunters.
3. Hunter(farm)bots - everyone hates bots to the deepest of their heart, and all bots are hunters.
4. Even if the hunter isnt an idiot, a good number of them is an arrogant b*tch who thinks they can do anything alone.
5. Hunters benefit from a LOT of equipment, leather, mail...doesnt matter, they need the stats. For weapons, ofcourse anything that has any stats on it is a "good" weapon for a hunter. And for those greedy hunters who just want the rare, cool looking weps, some nerds thought out the "melee-hunter" class that in reality doesnt exist, they are just a bunch of greedy morons.
6. They can/do cause a lot of trouble in instances, starting with that they always need range, thus pulling by accident happeny freq..
7. They are easily replacable with other classes in 5m instances. Warriors, shamans, paladins, little compact rogues, doesnt need as much space, and still provide the same dps and usefulness.(well maybe us warriors dont provide as much practical use, but we can pop the shield and offtank greatly :P)

There are some more reasons, but I think these are enough...

Edited, Sep 29th 2006 at 6:18am PDT by Noodkele

If you have someone stupid in the group like that, by all means, kick them out. The first time it happens, yes its a mistake. Let them know that you're not pleased with them, and if they do it again, kick them out. If you can tell that the hunter is trying, help them. If they've got an ego bigger than the zone and it's all the party's fault that they can't keep up with His Uberness, kick them.

I used to play a Shadowknight in EQ and the mistakes you're saying sound EXACTLY like the stigma that I had then. SKs that would pull when Cleric was OOM, ones that would pull when the party was at half life, etc. This sounds more like an idiot hunter that doesn't know how to play his class, not the hunter class itself.

If the hunter is a dumbass and keeps pulling when the cleric is trying to buff...kick them out. By their 3rd or 4th party they'll figure out when they should pull or not...or else rage against stupid people and go solo. Either way, its a win win.

Now, those hunters that ninja loot or loot items that are BoP that they can't use need to be beaten by a clue-by-four upside the head a few times. That said, in a PUG, any good item with nice stats (+Agility, +Stamina, etc) should go to anyone who can use it as long as it's better than what they're wearing. (Guild drops are something different as items are prioritized to help the guild)

Sadly, while that may be more correct then having most of the hunters, because hunters are one of the more popular classes, those dumbasses are more plentiful then with others.

Aye, the Triune Amulet is a viable necklace for a lot of classes. I've seen Warriors and Rogues with it as well. But.. When you've got a Priest and Mage in your group, you're not really in need of it as much as they are.



Let us just go over that one again.




A Mage or Hunter should never be allowed to roll on the item in the first place. And yes, Thunderfury is a quest reward, but you also need some rare drops to start it. A guild which allows a Hunter to roll on it instead of a Rogue/Warrior is not a guild I would want to be in.

When would a Hunter use this uber awesome weapon? For melee? Oh great, another mail Warrior, eh? And that proc is the bestest in raids.. except you shouldn't be anywhere near melee range.



Unlike what you might think, the game starts at level 1, not 60. I know level 30 isn't much, but it's still something, especially for casual players. Now, if you don't know how to play your character after 30 levels, how am I supposed to think you know it in 60 levels? You can do about as many instances from level 10-30 as you can from 30-60, not counting in raid-instances.

I always try to look at both sides of the argument. I like to think of myself as a good hunter, but I've seen countless morons playing the class. IMHO, moreso than any other class- although every class has its assclowns.

It's already pretty much been covered, but Hunters have gotten a bad rep due to a few factors. It's easier to play a hunter than many other classes. Note that I'm not necessarily saying it's easier to play hunter well. Between rogue and hunter, they seem to have the best solo survivability of all the classes- hence, they're the most popular. A lot of people roll hunters, whether because it's similar to another game's class that they liked before, or they want to solo more, or they're not good on social interaction, or they can't handle the other classes.

Unfortunately, it also means that they can solo from level one to level sixty, and often will solo. As a result, if you get someone who doesn't group much (if at all) playing all the way to 60 before joining groups, they throw off the balance. They haven't already gotten past that learning curve of WC / VC / RFC / Stockades, where they learn their roles in a group. If it's a player with a social disability, often they don't like interacting with other people and refuse to listen to advice. I've seen countless situations where players (Hunters and otherwise) get advised to do something, or as importantly not to do something, and ignore the request because "it's their character" (although, to be fair I've also seen people who have run through instances a dozen (or more) times get impatient & downright nasty when someone makes a mistake).

Bad players can be found in every class, but hunters seem to be more prominent, simply because hunters have the safety line of a pet. Nine times out of ten, any other class will die if they get too much aggro, or take on a mob too powerful for them. A hunter can set a pet out and run away, or mend the pet while fighing, or even (after 40) feign death and lose the aggro that he had. Hunters are a good, solid, but ultimately easy class.


In essence, you get some hunters that play well. You also get some hunters that don't play well, but get away with it because they don't have to be accountable to anyone else when they solo. You find some hunters will roll on anything because people are selfish. It always seems like a hunter because, again, that player found hunters easy to level, and he lacks the social level to think of other players before himself.

I can cite incidents I've seen in almost every instance I've ever been in where a hunter did something poorly: jumped off of a ledge in Deadmines- then watched his pet take the ramp down, bringing several mobs behind, or forgot to put their pet on passive in Stockades, or pulled a mob using Aimed Shot- with the shot firing just in time for a patrol to reach the target. Then there was a hunter who decided that Multi-shot gave better damage, and oops- he pulled several mobs from two different groups. Let's not forget the Melee Master. This is the guy who decides that his melee skill will out-DPS his ranged attacks, and melees every chance he gets. I've seen several- one of whom called me a noob for not meleeing! I have stories about almost every class, but none as many as hunters.

Edited, Sep 29th 2006 at 8:03am PDT by Wondroustremor