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#1 May 20 2006 at 11:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Lets assume that there is a hunter and a warrior (not nessecarily fighting each other) and both of their talents are the best possible PVP build for their class and they both have the BEST OF THE BEST armor, trinkets, weapons, etc. Which one is better for wripping through tons of players without dying? Thx for ur input.
#2 May 20 2006 at 11:09 PM Rating: Decent
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oh, and their skill lvl is even so its not like one guy has like 1yr or experience and the other guy is like a newbie or something
#3 May 21 2006 at 2:23 AM Rating: Decent
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hmmm

hunter vs warrior

well suits your play style. Up close or far away. Warriors as what ive seen in pvp videos are just plain uber but they need a preist to be tough

a hunter is the person who goes behind the lines and pick off the cloth wearers.

If you want constant action and just 1-2 shot everything warrior it is....as long as you have a healbot. Hunter is for that extra damage but they will hardly ever and you mean you will hardly ever seen a hunter outdamage most classes. However they do own casters with ease.
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#4 May 21 2006 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Lets say we have mass fight AV style the warrior will charge in hit 2 or 3 times and then die while the hunter will stand back and pick out every squishie out there.
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#5 May 23 2006 at 9:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Well.....if worst come to worst then hunters with marksmanship can just use scatter shot then get on mount :)
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#6 May 23 2006 at 12:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, to answer your question, and that is, which of the 2 will wipe through tons of players without dying....neither class will. There ya go!
#7 May 23 2006 at 12:44 PM Rating: Good
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A warrior favors up close and personal combat whereas a hunter has to stay at range. I've heard of Survival spec hunters who are able to melee quite well but the bottom line is...when it comes to close combat...no other class comes close to a warrior or rogue.

When dealing with a hunter...you also deal with his pet and a hunter's pet is no pushover. A good hunter might be able to make good use of traps and concussion shots to keep a warrior at a convenient range and let Serpent Sting wear him down while the pet picks away at his HP.

I've not much experience in PvPing with my hunter but I have done enough ABs and WSGs to know that a skillful hunter is a good killer.
#8 May 23 2006 at 1:02 PM Rating: Default
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I play a warrior with a 75.9 dps 2h sword, and I have killed 2-3 people at the same time if there were no healers present as you get this whole 'nuke' effect going when you have a HoJ, sword spec, and half a rage bar ( I always carry a stack of mighty rage pots, and a stack of living/free action pots) you can nuke pretty much every class instantly

a hunter on the other hand is almost impossible to kill as a warrior if the hunter is good. but if you have enough health you can make it thru their double trap ( possibly triple if they are smart) and wtfpwn them in like 2 seconds as you will have a full rage bar by then :D also as you charging/intercepting SLAM YOUR HAMSTRING HOTKEY, as it can be done off before you get trap frozen.


as a warrior vs mages....you 2 shot them unless they 2 shot you :D
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#9 May 23 2006 at 8:29 PM Rating: Default
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4942880016996001655&q=pat+pvp
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#10 May 23 2006 at 10:26 PM Rating: Decent
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An exceptionally good example of a Warrior owning heavily in PvP... or wait? See the very first screen when you jump into BG? He has pretty much every buff in the game on him, as well as Healbots. Warriors are best in a group. If one group has a warrior, and the other does not, I think the warrior group will win.

Hunters are more of a Soloing creature, not all that group dependant. If I see a Warrior against a Hunter, I vote for the hunter. The hunter is one of the classes that can pretty much go up against any class out there and still win. (Granted, some classes are harder to kill than others, but my money will always be on the Hunter.)

Warriors are insane in PvP. Even unbuffed and against multiple opponents, they can do massive damage while tolerating alot of punishment. IF they know what they are doing, and only against certain classes.

But neither class will be "ripping through tons of players without dying". There is no class in the game that can do that, or everyone would be playing it.
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#11 May 24 2006 at 1:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Let's not forget taking advantage of "exploits" in the game...

Hunter lays down frost trap before he begins his firing on enemies.

The warrior spots him and charges...right into the frost trap. Foiled!

The hunter feints, stands up, runs away...lays a frost trap...and fires an aimed shot at the warrior.

If the warrior intercepts...he runs right into the frost trap again, thus repeating the pattern. Should he try to circle around, the hunter will circle around the trap, or stand on TOP of it to ensure safety all-the-while firing shots at the warrior. He will also NOT use serpent sting so that the only damage done is when he is safely out of range, thus keeping the warrior trapped until he breaks out on timer, or possibly early on luck?

(Someone told me that traps have a diminishing return. I thought maybe it'd reach a point where it'd only last 1 second, or I'd even become immune. I was testing this out with a Hunter in my guild in front of Orgrimmar. He trapped me until it wore off, then another, and another. About everytime I was trapped for at least 8-10 seconds, never any less. It's not a lot, but it's enough for the hunter to gain some distance. Perhaps just luck? Has anyone else tried fiddling with this? Maybe it only worked because it was a duel? Who knows...)
#12 May 24 2006 at 2:33 AM Rating: Default
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The diminishing returns on traps have made a HUGE difference. After the third one, they are immune for fifteen seconds. My first trap usually lasts fifteen seconds, my second one usually lasts about eight seconds, and my third trap always lasts five seconds, or less.
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#13 May 28 2006 at 10:11 AM Rating: Decent
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As far as ripping through people it is very close and would probably depend slightly on chance also.

Hunter - A hunter would normally do multi shot alongs with the other shots and stings which does have a good chance to crit and searpent sting every damn player, creature, rock, tree on the field (if they think ahead like i do) that way once they kill the first person the others HP is already being eaten.

Warrior - (I dont have much experience as warrior) a warrior that charges from the side in a flank may be noticed by fewer people and get off a few more hits. most likelly they'll take out the "squishy faced retards" (clothies) and then work up from there as far as armor or the opposite and start at the top and work down.

Hunter Vs. Warrior - A hunter would pwn any warrior if it werent for the intercept ability. My friend and I battle 5 times when he turned 44 and I was 43, he had slightly better gear then me but he barely had touched me. All be he only had to give me a few papers cuts for me to die at that time. I pwnd him so hard I actually felt sorry. : P

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#14 May 28 2006 at 12:22 PM Rating: Decent
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This game is balanced. If they have the same skill level, same amazing gear, and same pvp talent builds for their respectable class, it's going to come down to whoever makes a mistake first.
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#15 May 30 2006 at 11:50 AM Rating: Decent
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i would say it all depends on skills. As a warrior i tear destroy hunters if i DW but i really hate the fact that a hunter can put you in combat before you can even charge. The traps are annoying but if the hunter slips up once and i mean once with a warrior and the warrior lands hamstring/rend/deep wounds the hunter cant run away and they know not to waste a speed pot to get away. Very few hunters break the 1k crit. Even in epics they strugle to hit the 1k damage.



Now on the issuse with frost traps and everything. lets say the warrior has a pally healbot and the pally uses BOF on the warrior like a few seconds before charges.The warrior is immune to the trap and the hunter is 1-2 shotted. Unless the hunter can somehow CC enough to stop the pally and 3-4 shot the warrior then well lol a warrior with a healbot just owns too much.

Now lets say the warrior sneaks up on the hunter and most hunters forget to set a trap behind them. lol hunter owned. Now lets say a rogue stealth and gets rid of the trap and a warrior charges...hunter dead lol.

if you ever google a few videos then you will see that hunters kill by theirselves aka loners. And warriors kill with otheers aka groupies. And since im board and the severs are down i'll show ya a few.

Warrior:

<http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8641958394382271776&q=maydie+pvp>

<http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4669895340140820194&q=fury+warrior>

Hunter: notice he cant take more than 2 ppl when people know where he hides.


<http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3763652826222344668&q=rank+14+hunter>



BTW pat is a good warrior but hulksmash and maydie are better and funney thing is that they are on the same sever >_<
DW fury vs MS arms both rank 14 with healbots and both can take on 5 ppl and leave a huge mark

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#16 Jun 02 2006 at 12:31 AM Rating: Default
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Hunter SUK!!
#17 Sep 19 2006 at 8:42 PM Rating: Decent
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If only us Hunters could wear Plate Mail...
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#18 Sep 20 2006 at 1:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Wouldn't you then stop being hunters, and start being clunkers?
#19 Sep 20 2006 at 1:50 AM Rating: Decent
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BTW pat is a good warrior but hulksmash and maydie are better and funney thing is that they are on the same sever >_<
DW fury vs MS arms both rank 14 with healbots and both can take on 5 ppl and leave a huge mark
Maydie and Hulksmash are NOT good warriors, Maydie has a healbot and Hulksmash only shows recklesness crits. Laintime...thats a warrior! http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=8302478278006513481&q=Laintime
#20 Sep 20 2006 at 6:19 AM Rating: Decent
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warriors cant 1-2 shot anything...
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#21 Sep 20 2006 at 7:48 AM Rating: Decent
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When Hunter and Warrior fight Warlock bbqs 'em both. :D
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#22 Sep 20 2006 at 11:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Hunters are like a sniper - they sneak back and try to eliminate the support for the other teams front line. The warrior IS the front line, he needs the support or the other warrior will pwn him.
The type of pet matters as well - my Bloodseeker Bat has of its resistances jacked by the various trainable abilities. He pwns casters single handedly sometimes. 1.0 attack speed, epic mount pace pursuit speed and hard for the caster to hurt with all that resistance.

If you're looking looking to cut wide swaths through a crowd, the warrior is for you. He needs a little support to pull it off, but hunters just can't engage the masses with a reasonable chance of survival. A good hunter will isolate his target before attacking for real.
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#23 Sep 20 2006 at 4:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Maydie and Hulksmash are okay warriors but Laintime is a real good warrior real skill
#24 Sep 20 2006 at 5:55 PM Rating: Decent
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IMO, warriors will typically "die" less when leveling 1-30. When hunters get feign death at level 30, they really have no excuse for dying while trying to level, unless somthing really weird happens. In close quarters, warriors will deffinetly do much better while hunters have to worry about range and possbile respawns. All in all, it really depends on your playing style.
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#25 Sep 20 2006 at 6:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh man, Laintime is awesome.
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#26 Sep 21 2006 at 5:31 AM Rating: Decent
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lol necroooooooooooooooo

this dude posted last week... he's now contemplating rogue vs warr in pvp.

if you like laintime warr vids check out kesher's.

Edited, Sep 21st 2006 at 9:34am EDT by axhed
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