Hero Classes - Let the fun beginFollow

Incredibly fake.

Lame and fake.

One of the reasons I chose to be a hunter was for the pet. Now unless I go 'beastmaster' I have to dump it? I don't think so.

...So a rogue's hero class can be an arms/fury warrior?..And this is sorta like Jojo's adventure? I want super moves too! QFT

So obviously fake,I CAN belive its not butter.

Well first seeing as the two classes I play as at the moment dont have very good upgrades I'm not pleased. Assuming your right who would want a non-stealth rogue? Isn't that another warrior pretty much? Im assuming that most everyone will go for assassination but IMO from the info you gave us it is that it is just a more powerful rogue. Not much difference.

The warlock I have less problems with but still Master Warlock? We need a better name. On the warlock subject does the shadowgaurd lose all of it's pets or do the pets just not progress? I got the feeling that it is they lose them but Im just clarifying because I have been known to make mistakes... Often.

I think this is a good way to continue the game, but I think they should improve what we can become.

Just on a side note, I was watching Seoman's avatar while thinking of what else to write and I was wondering do taurens ever get a weapon that is like that? Lol I know it is random but it got me thinking.

It's not completely irreversible - you can drop the craft and start again. Not that starting again would be fun or practical, but it's very different from having to delete your entire character and starting again at L1.



I did do Genkei 1, 2, 3 and 4 (never got high enough to fight Maat). G1 is by far the worst. The ^&%$%$ Papyrus!!! It took me 5 hours of killing the damn Liches... And the time before 4 people left before I got mine! Then, I went back as a 60-something RDM to solo a papyrus for my brother. I must've killed like 57 of them before one dropped ... Man what hell!!!!

I wouldn't be against something that needs a party or a 10-man raid (something PuG'able), but I would trust Blizzard to make it a lot more challenging and fun than stupid Genkei 1.

Errr.. Or Genkei 2! Remember - touch the special spot without aggroing the L75 NMs? Yagudo High Priests anyone???? /yuck /bad memories ...



Yeah. Ummm... Why not just make it another grinding game of numbers? "Or even grouped"?? Are you kidding? Do you always play WoW alone? Come on...

The quote wasn't actually you - it was some rogue who posted above. I understand the fear of forced grouping ... I played a lot of FFXI and I like the freedom of WoW. That beind said, I do not think that components w/ 5-10 man content is so bad. Have some solo stuff to progress but some group stuff to keep it tough- challenging group stuff is in all honesty more difficult that challenging solo stuff.

Oh ... and you're right it was G3.. The Xarcabard Zerg ... That one... I organized a group for it. It took me hours to find enough people and a 75 Paladin and 75 WHM to make sure we succeeded. After the 3 kills were over, no one thanked me for my hours of work ... At least I got it done. G1 and G3 were so much bigger pains in the ***. G4 was actually really easy. G5 is ridiculous - if you win, great! But an unlucky crit and you lose, and then you have to get another group and go farm those damn testimonies again!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DIE SE!! (/bottles up feelings again)

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You got issues. Seriously.

Lose what?



Notice the title of the thread "Hero Classes - Let the Fun Begin"

It refers to the fact that this is speculation taken from elsewhere and that people would be picking it apart. Never said it was true or fact. Wasn't meant to be taken seriously. Intended as a "here's an idea thats out there, may be true and it may not be, but let's see if it flys".


There are some things I like about it, Tauren Tracker sounds cool (keeps the pet, gains some melee capabilities) and some of the other things sound cool.

I like the idea that it represents, class/racial hero classes and them all being somewhat different. I like the idea that 60-70 is somewhat harder to level then 1-60.

Personally I think Bliz will just go with class heroes and leave out the racial component. Too much room for people to *****/whine because Tauren Warriors have better hero classes then Orc Warriors and if they (the player) had known the hero classes at the beginning they would have rolled a Tauren instead of an Orc.

I don’t expect that this “sneak peak” is real, but I have enjoyed the dialog it’s spawned about the expansion. I do think it’s very possible that hero classes will be included with the expansion. Blizzard’s been working on them since beta, so one would think they’d had plenty of time to test them by the time the expansion comes out.



As has been pointed out, Blizzard has already has irreversible content in game. Blizzard reps have repeatedly stated that this is working as intended. So, for example, when my hunter engineer chose to take up gnomish engineering that’s a decision that will be with him forever. Even if he drops engineering and starts from scratch he’ll never ever be able to take gobblin engineering.

If we do get a choice between hero classes I fully expect that the choice will indeed be a permanent one. And rightly so, in my opinion. The choice of hero class is just as character defining as choosing your class when you stared the character. I can’t choose to have my level 40 priest switch classes and become a level 40 warrior. It just wouldn’t make sense. Neither would changing hero classes.



I’m 100% against that idea. Leveling from 60 to 70 should be equally accessible to all play styles. WoW has no shortage of group and raid required content. And nobody is going to convince me that Blizzard won’t be adding more with future patches and with the expansion. The ability to achieve basic leveling of our characters should be just as accessible to the person who choose to remain guildless and play only half an hour a day as it is to those who are in raid intensive guilds and play ten hours a day.

That isn’t to say that those ten levels should be a walk in the park. I would hope there would be quests with engaging plot lines and challenges to overcome. But they should be quests that can be done solo and done piecemeal. Blizzard did not force us to group from 1 to 60. Why should they now force us to group from 60 to 70? There are other games out there that force such game play. The fact that Blizzard doesn’t is one of the reasons the game has over five million subscribers.



Now that I whole heartedly agree with.

That's fine... It would work. Truth be told, though, L70 would just be the new L60.

I love casual players, but just letting the exp curve continue like the 1-60 just reinforces the "you can suck and get to max level" problem.

I can think of a comprimise ... How about a solo, class specific instance. It wouldn't need epic gear to get through, but it would be HARD for anyone. It would contain challenges that would test your ability with all aspects of your play style...

For example, there could be a warrior encounter where you had to just survive for a long time against an onslaught of mobs. There could be another encounter where you had to kill a certain number of mobs before you get overrun. For a Paladin, it could be a challenge to survive for a certain amount of time in the face of heavy attack. Solo instances could be awesome if implemented correctly, and at the same time would ensure that you achieve a certain level of skill and experience before you can continue. That would make L70 hard to get, but accessible to everyone.

Who knows ... Only time will tell what Blizzard implements. I think RPZip is right though... 70 will probably just be the new 60.

There are ways around that gear issue Kourg.

Just have the instances base the difficulty off unbuffed stats.

Each stat has a starting number and then a "buffed" number which is talents/gear added on top.

Have the instance put you back at "start" and gear won't matter. Weapons and spells will be based off of "unbuffed" DPS and DMG.


There are some ways around that, but it would mean buying sets of unbuffed gear. Buying gear based on basic DPS and Armor stats vs. passives, procs and +stats.