Why allies always lose warsong???Follow

well im a shammy on the german server aman thul, and im currently lvl 32 and i can say that untill now i NEVER lost 1 single warsong. (i mean me and the horde team :P)

i got almost 500 kills and the last 3 warsong i wanst even killed once.

IS this normal???

or just allies sucks???

Well I play on Uther server in WC, and the Horde don't always win there. Although they do win a lot.....More powerful characters I think.....anytime a team loses I mark it up to disorganization of the team.

On the Venture Co. It seems that there are an awful lot of shamans and paladins. And in BG Shaman will win (20-29)
Its also because we have 2 movement buff clases (hunter and shaman)

Well last time i played. We(the alliance) played for almost 5 hours and lost two matches, not all of us want HK, we just ran through owned the hordies ran stright through them took the flag and it was over pretty much after that.

The major difference between the Horde and Alliance is Shamans vs Paladins, Shamans are naturally a little better in the process of getting the flag from one end of the field to the other. Whether the shaman is actually the flag runner or not, he is very good at slowing down allies chasing the flag bearer (Earthbind Totem, Frost Shock) and a decent flag runner in his own right (can slow down the allies and can increase his speed with Ghost Wolf.) Paladins can be good flag runners, I just don't see it as often.

In lower level WSGs, twinks are much more powerful than in later BGs, because the enchants that are on some of these 29 characters are the same ones that level 60 characters have (ie Crusader, Lifestealing, Health, Agility, etc.) Those kind of enchants boost the offensive powers of players more than Defensive powers, so an offensive class like a Shaman could be twinked out to be more effective than a defensive based class like a paladin even if they have the same enchants.

The levels in your BGs may also be a factor, try looking at the average alliance level vs the average horde level (while I think its stupid to join a BG when you are lower than the level 8 of the given bracket, some people feel its fine to go in at the lowest level possible,) if there is a level gap, that can make a huge impact on the outcome. Also look to see how many Horde have high end enchants compared to the Allies, if your group is filled with twinks and theirs isn't, then its a no-brainer that your group is stacked and they are out of their league.

well, alliance do outnumber us 3 to 1.. they are filled with 6 year old kids who wear greens... SOUNDS NORMAL! :D...

btw Shamans rock!... so you rock!

On my server i have to say Horde wins 80% of the time.

On dragonblight horde wins about 85% of the time. Today we did not lose one. A few days ago all the alliance had enchanted stuff and we were out numbered so we got owned. In a fair battle with no enchantes horde will win. Shaman, druid and hunter population works well in WSG

I've lost only a few times as horde in WSG, usually when the alliances massed altogether and march into the base, which is usually only defended by a few shamans, 2 or 3.

But other than that, alliance seems to be disorganised, and as much as i try to organise the teams when on my alliance char, some noobs simply want to create their own raid groups, and when i disband my group, they wont invite, and tells us to calm down after several dozen minutes of waiting for a damn invite.

Also, the alliance competes over each other. They RUSH to get the flags and they would sometimes kamekaze into huge groups of horde just for a single kill on someone with lower life, that disorients the entire raid group, separates everyone and singles out some, leaving groups of horde ez to come in and make the kill, then take the flag.

Assliance sucks

The alliance doesnt suck, the horde does. The reason that the horde always wins the lower level BG's is because the alliance scares them away from the higher level ones. We have all the gear and glory, so you guys have to make little twinked alts and pick on lowbies. I've never seen the horde win alterac valley, in fact i've entered an AV in which the horde pushed the alliance all the way back to their base, and the alliance came back from it and won in less than 20 minutes because several geared out players entered the battle.

Ok, first you say "so you guys have to make little twinked alts and pick on lowbies" and then you says "alliance came back from it and won in less than 20 minutes because several GEARED out players entered the battle."

You sound kind of hypocritical there. It's ok for the alliance to do it at high level, but not ok to do it at low/mid-level?

As far as WSG goes, I think it has to on the organization of either side. That and ranks/gear of people playing in the high level. Alliance tends to be disorganized in the lower levels and a little bit more organized on the higher levels.

That and the importance of some characters lessen while others get better. The shaman is awesome for the 10-19 and 20-29 WSGs due to ghost form (only the druid is as good) and earthbind. At lvl 60, they're not as good as you got guys with epic mounts that can catch up fairly easily. Druids get a little better since they can break speed impediments by shapechanging.

Oh am i an idiot? And I have a 6 year old brain? Hmmm. Is it really my fault that your mage can't stay away from a rogue with two "fireys"(I believe that is spelled fiery), when you, from what it sounds like i have read, have a high level player to twink your mage out just as well? I guess i have a 6 year old brain because i can't put 2 and 2 together like you eh?

And yes, 60 BG's ARE dominated by the alliance.