Do you think shamans are overpowered (pt2)Follow

I've played one for a while (didn't work though), so I'd consider myself part Shaman, but most non-Shaman.

I've played WoW for.. well, since Final Beta, and pretty much always considered them overpowered. Mostly because the general public called them overpowered in the same way the Horde public call Paladins overpowered I guess. I went with the flow and focused on all the powerful stuff the Shaman got, like the Windfury buff, the Purge spell and the heavy healing with semi-heavy armor.

What I didn't see was the side-effects of having all this great stuff. Shamans can't stun someone to get off a clear heal. A Mage or Priest would be able to silence the Shaman while he was healing. The Shaman doesn't have plate armor like the Paladin and no protective shields (in defense of the Paladin population I'll tear a hole in the Shock vs. Plate armor topic now). I would trade my plate armor for Earth Shock any day on my Paladin, but I would trade my Earth Shock for Hammer of Justice or Divine Shield of the Paladin.

I realized that Blizzard didn't overpower the class on purpose. Unfortunately they've done some things that made it look as if the Shaman got all the nifty stuff and we got leftovers.

Yes, it is a bit odd that Shamans get travel form 10 levels before the Druids who are shapeshifters after all. Yes, it is a bit odd that Shamans get some Warlock and Priest water handling spells, but they do cost reagents (not hard to get if you kill some Murlocs though). Shocks seem overpowered, yes, and AoE lightning spells are amazing, but in raids I found the Shaman class to be very vulnerable.

You might think they're very powerful with totems and healings and Purge and stuff, but I died more often that I did with my Paladin. Why? Because I had to safe route. The Druid can shift out of stuns and hit the road, Rogues can Vanish from sight, leaving any snares they're in, Mages can Blink, Priests can do the shield and stay alive by healing, Paladins can slap on a blessing or shield and heal for 10+ seconds. The Shaman can do Jack Schitt to be honest.

So, I withdraw all my rantings about how the Shamans are overpowered, and I salute those who, like the Paladin, picked the Shaman class in hope of being a support melee class and ended up being a healbot instead.

Cheers.

I realize I have some fatal typos in my post, but I have the worst headache ever and don't have the courage to read all that again

Edited, Mon Sep 5 15:56:36 2005 by Mazra

1 v 1 easy 2 v 2 maybe 3 v 3 not a chance

I've had 3 shamans come up to me with 2 others by my side and I've died before I even knew they were coming at me. Personally, I think they are overpowered because they're a combination of the best parts of most classes (for the most part).

Priest- Mega-heals
Pally-Tough armor, heavy dmg and heals
Warrior-Strong melee dmg
Warlock-They don't get the best part of the class but have the ability to get rid of it against other warlocks with fear totems and the totem that makes your pet attack it.
Hunter-Can keep the pet from attacking the Shaman
Rogue-Strong melee dmg, can run fast (in wolf form), and can slow things down
Mage-VERY strong/overpowered shocks and nukes
Druid-Everything you can do Shamans can do better lol

That's pretty much the sum of it all. 1 v 1 A good shaman doesn't lose. End of story. If you beat a Shaman 1 v 1, you either had a head start, fully prepared, or the shaman sucked.

I would say they could add a class like this (better than pallies) to alliance but then that would just give complete control to players who chose that class. It would be best if the Shaman were gimped a bit because then they would just be Amazing and not Godly. It would make it more fair for the Alliance and overall, for all non-Shamans.

That's my opinion

Ille say it, (And its also quoting Blizzard), Shamans are the BEST BALANCED class there is. Heres the thing: You can put points in ANY of the 3 talent trees, and still be able to do very well in either PvP or PvE. Name one other class that has this (Rogue maybe, dont know)?

Lets take the warrior, for instance. By specializing in the protection tree, you will lose considerable usefullness in PvP situations.

The Shaman doesnt suffer from this, and I hope that Blizzard will tweak all classes to reach a "balance".

Of course they are overpowered.
If a Shaman lose a battle is because he sucks. Simple.

Why are they horde? and why alliance dont have a class like that?
IMO because of the imbalance of the game factions in the servers. It has been shown that in many servers alliance overruns the horde by a vast ratio.
Then, what's the solution to have the game fairly balanced? Well..make a class more powerful than the ones available to the other faction (alliance)..that will make the overall numbers balanced. That is why i dont expect shaman nerfs but more things for them. :(

Paladin can be much more powerful then Shaman if played properly, WSG is a perfect exemple of that.

thats what pally's do^^^???? they arnt really casters and they wear plate.

It's not the class that's overpowered, it's the person playing it.

Check Warcraftmovies.com and you'll notice how one or two players from each class can somehow kill everyone else, even though some of the classes they're fighting are overpowered and the winner isn't.

A Rogue can be powerful if a good player plays one. But the same goes for Paladins, Warlocks, Mages, Hunters, Shamans etc...

A crappy player will lose no matter what class he picks, thus he'll consider everyone else overpowered (which they are, compared to him).