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Have I mentioned lately that paladins ride the short bus...
not gonna read every single post cause im sure they are 90% "pallies are gay omfg nubs"
first off shamans needs to stop calling paladins "noob" ive played both classes and shamans are by far the EASIER and more SIMPLE of the two.
"paladins take no skill to play" really a class with low DPS takes no skill? so when a paladin beats you does that mean you have even less skill? sorry but most horde havent played a paladin, if they did they would know paladin takes the most skill to master, its more than being a healbot, especially in pvp paladin takes a lot of skill to play, i respect anyone who does.
"paladins are 12 year old noobs". really, and you generalizing the people who play a class is really mature. why is it considered so wussy when a paladin uses his shield, first off it gives you a chance to heal also, so why not take advantage of it. second, its a freakin CLASS skill. these "wuss" players you guys mention didnt make it. blizzard did, and if you played WC3 you would know thats part of the paladin. and its not even overpowered, its on huge cooldown, and everytime they shield, you can heal too.
apparently it isnt "wussy" when a shaman/druid use travel and earthbind or root, rogue vanishes and sprints or blinds and sprints, hunter wingclip or conc. shot then cheetahs, mage sheeps and runs, warriors hamstring and run, warlock fears or seduces and runs, priest screams then runs. but it is "wussy" when a paladin uses his shield. seriously why complain about the shield, its not overpowered, not like they can hurt you while theyre in it, its a paladins survival method, every class has them, grow up and stop complaining.
i just dont understand it, most of you complain and say paladin is a noob class and overpowered (lots of you being shaman that say it...) but then say you how easy paladins are and how much they suck, make up your mind.
delendanda, to you personally, you never seem to know what your talking about. so allow me to correct you.
pallys have 10 - 15yd stun x2 - with cooldowns, 1 is a 31 point talent and it breaks with damage, but nice try.
heal - so do 3 other classes, boohoo.
shield x2 - with cooldowns, and can be dispelled. and also give you a free heal.
full heals - with one hour cooldown, and drains all mana
DPS seals - really? where? i want one! one is on chance, and one is a small ammount of holy damage.
plate - low dps
armor buff - yeah wtf why so paladins get this? i mean it would be fair if druids, warriors, shamans, mages, warlocks and priests got armor buffs too, but they dont!!!! oh wait.....
on that note....hmm sounds really fair to me because paladins stuns are on a cooldown and most likely already used it to stop a cast, and even if they didnt use it stuns can be, are you ready? resisted. this isnt a ranged execute FYI, its a move to kill runners, it does no more damage than a shock, but it has more restrictions, so in reality it isnt even as good as a shamans shock, stop complaining.
first off shamans needs to stop calling paladins "noob" ive played both classes and shamans are by far the EASIER and more SIMPLE of the two.
"paladins take no skill to play" really a class with low DPS takes no skill? so when a paladin beats you does that mean you have even less skill? sorry but most horde havent played a paladin, if they did they would know paladin takes the most skill to master, its more than being a healbot, especially in pvp paladin takes a lot of skill to play, i respect anyone who does.
"paladins are 12 year old noobs". really, and you generalizing the people who play a class is really mature. why is it considered so wussy when a paladin uses his shield, first off it gives you a chance to heal also, so why not take advantage of it. second, its a freakin CLASS skill. these "wuss" players you guys mention didnt make it. blizzard did, and if you played WC3 you would know thats part of the paladin. and its not even overpowered, its on huge cooldown, and everytime they shield, you can heal too.
apparently it isnt "wussy" when a shaman/druid use travel and earthbind or root, rogue vanishes and sprints or blinds and sprints, hunter wingclip or conc. shot then cheetahs, mage sheeps and runs, warriors hamstring and run, warlock fears or seduces and runs, priest screams then runs. but it is "wussy" when a paladin uses his shield. seriously why complain about the shield, its not overpowered, not like they can hurt you while theyre in it, its a paladins survival method, every class has them, grow up and stop complaining.
i just dont understand it, most of you complain and say paladin is a noob class and overpowered (lots of you being shaman that say it...) but then say you how easy paladins are and how much they suck, make up your mind.
delendanda, to you personally, you never seem to know what your talking about. so allow me to correct you.
pallys have 10 - 15yd stun x2 - with cooldowns, 1 is a 31 point talent and it breaks with damage, but nice try.
heal - so do 3 other classes, boohoo.
shield x2 - with cooldowns, and can be dispelled. and also give you a free heal.
full heals - with one hour cooldown, and drains all mana
DPS seals - really? where? i want one! one is on chance, and one is a small ammount of holy damage.
plate - low dps
armor buff - yeah wtf why so paladins get this? i mean it would be fair if druids, warriors, shamans, mages, warlocks and priests got armor buffs too, but they dont!!!! oh wait.....
on that note....hmm sounds really fair to me because paladins stuns are on a cooldown and most likely already used it to stop a cast, and even if they didnt use it stuns can be, are you ready? resisted. this isnt a ranged execute FYI, its a move to kill runners, it does no more damage than a shock, but it has more restrictions, so in reality it isnt even as good as a shamans shock, stop complaining.
Rogues do it from behind.
Druids do it on all fours.
Priests do it in groups.
Druids do it on all fours.
Priests do it in groups.
Age does not matter. I am young ( I will not release my age ) and I'm mature enough. I'm under 14.
Nothing against paladins except the fact they can heal. And shield. And heal whilst shielded. Oh, and they get plate. And a free mount (where's the horde class that gets a free mount?).
wheres the alliance class that gets travel form at level 20?
Rogues do it from behind.
Druids do it on all fours.
Priests do it in groups.
Druids do it on all fours.
Priests do it in groups.
Diasho I liked your first post. Well writtin "guess thats why your a scholar" and alot of valid points But Travel form compared to mount isnt even close.
And only reason I saw pallies ride the short bus is to see all the peeps get worked up and there panties in a bunch. :)
And Thizzle the short bus isnt just for handicaped people. could be for someone living farther out that get on the early bus and arrives home earler hence the short bus since a large bus is not needed. Just wanted to make sure you have all the info from a tax payer before you speak.
Now go unbunch your panties.
And only reason I saw pallies ride the short bus is to see all the peeps get worked up and there panties in a bunch. :)
And Thizzle the short bus isnt just for handicaped people. could be for someone living farther out that get on the early bus and arrives home earler hence the short bus since a large bus is not needed. Just wanted to make sure you have all the info from a tax payer before you speak.
Now go unbunch your panties.
armored i didnt mean a travel form makes up for a mount, but in a few ways it can be considered advantagous.
the pally mount cant be use in combat and has no ways of helping a paladin in combat, so its not really an advantage by any means, just saves some cash. the travel form however can be used to either escape, or catch escaping runners. im sure most on PvE would take a free mount over travel form but coming from someone on a pvp server, id take travel form at level 20 =P.
Edited, Tue Sep 6 05:53:27 2005 by Diasho
the pally mount cant be use in combat and has no ways of helping a paladin in combat, so its not really an advantage by any means, just saves some cash. the travel form however can be used to either escape, or catch escaping runners. im sure most on PvE would take a free mount over travel form but coming from someone on a pvp server, id take travel form at level 20 =P.
Edited, Tue Sep 6 05:53:27 2005 by Diasho
Rogues do it from behind.
Druids do it on all fours.
Priests do it in groups.
Druids do it on all fours.
Priests do it in groups.
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Ok , im a low level 29 hunter , Ive BG'ed alot in my time , only WSG for now , but , two things .
1) , paladin's make superb flag carriers , it took atleast 5 of us , level 24 - 30 , to kill him , from our flag , to the tunnel entrance of his base , they just dont die .
2)Hunter can be just as powerfull , if you play it right , eg , i go 21 survival talents so far , counter attack rocks , deterence even more , 45 % evade and 34 % parry .
Yes its overpowered , but hey , it means no strong marks , however , my marks is strong enough to kill pally , way befor he can react fast enough to put us his sheild . that ofcourse comes in place with a few 300 dmg crits , and a fast gun .
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?319094
I however agree on the fact that they can be a mission to kill , its insane what it can take to drop their HP .
anyways.
1) , paladin's make superb flag carriers , it took atleast 5 of us , level 24 - 30 , to kill him , from our flag , to the tunnel entrance of his base , they just dont die .
2)Hunter can be just as powerfull , if you play it right , eg , i go 21 survival talents so far , counter attack rocks , deterence even more , 45 % evade and 34 % parry .
Yes its overpowered , but hey , it means no strong marks , however , my marks is strong enough to kill pally , way befor he can react fast enough to put us his sheild . that ofcourse comes in place with a few 300 dmg crits , and a fast gun .
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?319094
I however agree on the fact that they can be a mission to kill , its insane what it can take to drop their HP .
anyways.
/agree with Diasho It is more advantageous to have travel form on a (PVP) server, especialy at lvl 20.
Blackraine
44 Tauren Hunter
Spinebreaker
Blackraine
44 Tauren Hunter
Spinebreaker
14 posts
Theres no point arguing whether classes are imbalanced or not, Blizzard will most likely never fix it, seeing as this isnt a Blizzard forum. And bashing and name calling gets nothing accomplished either, hardly any posters have backed it up with facts. For hoarde haters, know that hoarde are outnumbered and get killed in lower lvl contested zones by ??'s, hence the anger, and pallys have an immune shield, theyre gunna take most of that hate. Alliance bashers, realize that WoW IS A VIDEO GAME, hence the high amount of "12 year olds", and also realize that age doesnt necessairily determine maturity. As for pally/shammy imba arguments, while a pally is shielded, YOU CAN HEAL TOO, and shammy totems CAN BE DESTROYED. However, this is a forum and meant for some debate, so in order to not make this all pointless, as a shaman i believe paladins are rigged because they get mounts and i had to pay for mine, those bastards.
Pallys are the biggest wussies ever. I often get into a fight with one and they throw up an immune shield and then hearth home(so what?). Tell me thats not n00b @#%^ 12 yr old(why you hating on 12ies 8ies are stupider)written all over it. And on alliance they are selfish bastards that only heal themselves(they kinda take priority overthemselves then you noob) and watch you die(lol i bet you laugh as they die). I've seen it happen, trust me. This is on Draenor so dont argue it if your not there.(just please dont talk anyomore)
My gnome can pwn you in a dance-off........
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Ok yust to clear something. I am pala lvl 50 now, and i kill evry horde i see lvl <53 ,true i hate fighting shamies as one shamie i might win, two shamies i am dead.I have a good gear and palies need to have good gear, depeandeable, as shamies do not need to have . so when shmie wins pala that means the poor guy didn t have good gear, it also means other things but basycli it is this. As i like fighting wariors druids and iven some roogues beacause i always win
for druids the poor guys basycli do not know how to fight pala, as some allaiance in a duel so i win, as a proof i killed a lvl 60 tauren druid, as he didn t know how to play against pala poor guy .
ok i constantly say poor and my writing is afaul as english is forgen language for me.
As i saw also palies are very depeandeable in their talents than other clases corecty me if i am wrong.yes we have a shield 12 sec duration and 5 min coldown it is great when fighting 1vs1 but in a large fights only in a shield we could heal ourself,and when you kill a pala that means he didn t have shield or he was ....
And the class i am feared the most is ...... because of .......
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Venas lvl50 pala stormcale
for druids the poor guys basycli do not know how to fight pala, as some allaiance in a duel so i win, as a proof i killed a lvl 60 tauren druid, as he didn t know how to play against pala poor guy .
ok i constantly say poor and my writing is afaul as english is forgen language for me.
As i saw also palies are very depeandeable in their talents than other clases corecty me if i am wrong.yes we have a shield 12 sec duration and 5 min coldown it is great when fighting 1vs1 but in a large fights only in a shield we could heal ourself,and when you kill a pala that means he didn t have shield or he was ....
And the class i am feared the most is ...... because of .......
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Venas lvl50 pala stormcale
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And my dps are with all my buffs 100dps sec don t know is this high or not for a lvl 50 also 2.7 k health and 2.45 mana.And yes i am not a 12 year old i am 17.And retri pali .
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Venas 50 human pala
stormcale
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Venas 50 human pala
stormcale
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Their pets and imps do more damage than the actually warlock..
Lies! A warlock does a LOT of damage, their spells can crit up to 1500!
But yeah, they need some help :P
Guys, come on. Don't cry.
Paladins aren't bad. You just have to kill them differently than you would a rogue.
The other half of this seems to be about linguistics and other peoples supposed intelligence.
My response to that is simple: the majority of you are subliterate, but not necessarily stupid. You know your Warcraft. Way to go.
Back to Paladins. I've defined them as Holy Knights, since the days of Final Fantasy IV. (Part II on SNES)
Postscript:
Can we please rise above bringing up the age of the Alliance players? We generalize far too often, and it makes us look all look bad. Remember: their age and where they're from makes no difference once they're on the ground, being spat upon.
Paladins aren't bad. You just have to kill them differently than you would a rogue.
The other half of this seems to be about linguistics and other peoples supposed intelligence.
My response to that is simple: the majority of you are subliterate, but not necessarily stupid. You know your Warcraft. Way to go.
Back to Paladins. I've defined them as Holy Knights, since the days of Final Fantasy IV. (Part II on SNES)
Postscript:
Can we please rise above bringing up the age of the Alliance players? We generalize far too often, and it makes us look all look bad. Remember: their age and where they're from makes no difference once they're on the ground, being spat upon.
Thou art my soul's hate!
I can't believe how often this subject is rehashed. Paladins are wussies WHY exactly? For using their abilities? Well crap, I didn't know that. I guess Rogues shouldn't stealth, Priests shouldn't heal and Mages shouldn't cast spells. Hunters and Warlocks, no more pets for you and Druids, how DARE you use another form? Lets use some sense here. Paladins are built for survivability. If YOU were playing a Paladin would you NOT use one of your shields because you were afraid the person you were fighting would think you were a wuss?
I DO believe that the Paladin is a very forgiving class. But to truly master it, like anything else, takes skill. Since it is so forgiving of your shortcomings and/or mistakes as a player, some people will gravitate to it. Like every other class, these people are easily spotted and defeated.
I, like most others here, am tired of hearing about how Alliance players are a bunch of noob 12 year olds. As I have said many times before, pay attention to General chat in The Barrens some time. You won't find a worse collection of immaturity, indecency and idiocy in the game.
I DO believe that the Paladin is a very forgiving class. But to truly master it, like anything else, takes skill. Since it is so forgiving of your shortcomings and/or mistakes as a player, some people will gravitate to it. Like every other class, these people are easily spotted and defeated.
I, like most others here, am tired of hearing about how Alliance players are a bunch of noob 12 year olds. As I have said many times before, pay attention to General chat in The Barrens some time. You won't find a worse collection of immaturity, indecency and idiocy in the game.
"A nobleman is made noble by birth, a man is made noble by deed."
They have low dps? SO?
I mean wtf? What does DPS mean when you can fight 4 times as long? Low on health/shield/heal - agian - low on health/Hammar of wrath/heal. YaY!
And the "gives you time to heal" not by a longshot as much as the paladin heals himself.
And one final thing...Armor buffs? For me? WHERE? I want one! :(
I mean wtf? What does DPS mean when you can fight 4 times as long? Low on health/shield/heal - agian - low on health/Hammar of wrath/heal. YaY!
And the "gives you time to heal" not by a longshot as much as the paladin heals himself.
And one final thing...Armor buffs? For me? WHERE? I want one! :(
pal·a·din ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pl-dn)
n.
A paragon of chivalry; a heroic champion.
A strong supporter or defender of a cause: “the paladin of plain speaking” (Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.).
Any of the 12 peers of Charlemagne's court.
you all fail.
n.
A paragon of chivalry; a heroic champion.
A strong supporter or defender of a cause: “the paladin of plain speaking” (Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.).
Any of the 12 peers of Charlemagne's court.
you all fail.
42 posts
So its technically gospal if you look up the word in the dictionary, but say, does that mean George W BUSH for example is:-
A low shrub with many branches.
A thick growth of shrubs; a thicket.
Land covered with dense vegetation or undergrowth.
Land remote from settlement: the Australian bush.
A shaggy mass, as of hair.
Vulgar Slang. A growth of pubic hair.
Actually, see the last one? That can also be used in description for a P*SSY and a C*NT, which funnily enough is the same as George W BUSH and, of course, the Paladin.
Edited, Tue Oct 25 00:40:55 2005 by thecuza
A low shrub with many branches.
A thick growth of shrubs; a thicket.
Land covered with dense vegetation or undergrowth.
Land remote from settlement: the Australian bush.
A shaggy mass, as of hair.
Vulgar Slang. A growth of pubic hair.
Actually, see the last one? That can also be used in description for a P*SSY and a C*NT, which funnily enough is the same as George W BUSH and, of course, the Paladin.
Edited, Tue Oct 25 00:40:55 2005 by thecuza
wait so its bush a paladin?
Actually, see the last one? That can also be used in description for a P*SSY and a C*NT,
no it can't, it just told you what it meant. males can have that too.
and BTW paladin and a guy's name have nothing to do with each other so your comparison makes no sense. claxton simply answered the topic, and he was 100% right.
They have low dps? SO?
I mean wtf? What does DPS mean when you can fight 4 times as long? Low on health/shield/heal - agian - low on health/Hammar of wrath/heal. YaY!
And the "gives you time to heal" not by a longshot as much as the paladin heals himself.
And one final thing...Armor buffs? For me? WHERE? I want one! :(
paladin's are broken. thats why blizzard is fixing them.
if you want an armor buff play a class that gets one. paladin, warrior, druid, mage, priest, warlock, hell even shamans have one. take your pick.
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Actually, see the last one? That can also be used in description for a P*SSY and a C*NT,
no it can't, it just told you what it meant. males can have that too.
and BTW paladin and a guy's name have nothing to do with each other so your comparison makes no sense. claxton simply answered the topic, and he was 100% right.
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They have low dps? SO?
I mean wtf? What does DPS mean when you can fight 4 times as long? Low on health/shield/heal - agian - low on health/Hammar of wrath/heal. YaY!
And the "gives you time to heal" not by a longshot as much as the paladin heals himself.
And one final thing...Armor buffs? For me? WHERE? I want one! :(
paladin's are broken. thats why blizzard is fixing them.
if you want an armor buff play a class that gets one. paladin, warrior, druid, mage, priest, warlock, hell even shamans have one. take your pick.
Rogues do it from behind.
Druids do it on all fours.
Priests do it in groups.
Druids do it on all fours.
Priests do it in groups.
42 posts
Couldn't give a toss mate.
I'm merely slagging off Paladins simply because I hate them.
Fair enough, your perfectly entitled to your opinion and shoot me down in flames.
But if you read my post properly I said:
Which means that I am pulling a random word out of the hat to use as a comparison, and to then therfore use as a tenious link towards my hatred for Pallies.
Is that good enough for you?
Don't take it personal buddy, I am in a Guild called Dawn of the Undead, Paladins are our natural enemy. Its bred into us to hate them and vice versa.
I'm merely slagging off Paladins simply because I hate them.
Fair enough, your perfectly entitled to your opinion and shoot me down in flames.
But if you read my post properly I said:
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So its technically gospal if you look up the word in the dictionary, but say, does that mean George W BUSH for example is:-
Which means that I am pulling a random word out of the hat to use as a comparison, and to then therfore use as a tenious link towards my hatred for Pallies.
Is that good enough for you?
Don't take it personal buddy, I am in a Guild called Dawn of the Undead, Paladins are our natural enemy. Its bred into us to hate them and vice versa.
42 posts
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wait so its bush a paladin?
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Actually, see the last one? That can also be used in description for a P*SSY and a C*NT,
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no it can't, it just told you what it meant. males can have that too.
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Actually, see the last one? That can also be used in description for a P*SSY and a C*NT,
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no it can't, it just told you what it meant. males can have that too.
And males can have female genitilia too? I don't know where you come from mate, but I suggest you go see a doctor, soon
Edited, Tue Oct 25 07:07:38 2005 by thecuza
13 posts
OMG WHERE IS THE LOVE POEPLE I AM FEELING NEGATIVE VIBES WE NEED SOME LOVE IN THIS THREAD
HAHAHAH I AM TEH PWNZXORS!!!!!
even tho i have no char over 35
;) :)
even tho i have no char over 35
;) :)
13 posts
When I first got this game, the fact of being sort of a holy knight was very appealing, until I figured out that my playing style just didn't match up with running blindly into a mob of bad guys with my mace swinging... I found that I needed a range weapon to pull one or two, not five or six... I converted my character over to a mage. I did the same with my horde Shaman - didn't understand the totems and switched it over to a hunter. So, I think people who complain about paladins when they are shamans and vice versa are actually mildly hipocrits, because they are both the same type of class meant to 'bring balance to the force' if you will. If you can play one, you should be able to play the other. Or, in my case, you just flat out can't play either and should try another class because you may actually have fun, because let's face it people - this is a game and that's why we play it - to have fun. I never imagined there would be such class racism in a make-believe game! If you don't like them, it should give you more of a reason to build up your character so that they are totally awesome, turn on your pvp and battle every paladin/shaman you come across. Not encourage you to come onto a forum and try to whine louder than the opposite class that they suck more. (very bad English...)
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