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#1 Apr 09 2005 at 7:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey guys,

I was wondering what you thought about Orc vs Troll warriors. I thought I found a good thread on here about horde warriors, but it ended up being a debate over looks and alliance vs horde.

I would like honest opinions on Orc vs Troll for there racial abilities and stats. They seem pretty even to, but was wondering what you guys thought.

Thanks
#2 Apr 09 2005 at 8:05 PM Rating: Good
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The starting stats make little difference in the first 10 levels, and mean nothing after level 20.


And their racial abilities for each are being changed in the next patch. So, can't give you an opinion until then ;_;
#3 Apr 09 2005 at 8:05 PM Rating: Good
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Personally, Id go with a Tauren for a warrior. The racial HP bonus, as well as War Stomp just seem to fit the class better.

However, from the choices given, id probably go orc.
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#4 Apr 09 2005 at 8:14 PM Rating: Decent
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#5 Apr 09 2005 at 11:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Neither! Gnome all the way, baby! GNOOOOOOOOOME!
#6 Apr 10 2005 at 12:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Undead 4tw.

And yeah, racial abilities don't mean squat. Just pick which one looks better :P
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#7 Apr 10 2005 at 12:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Undead 4tw.

And yeah, racial abilities don't mean squat. Just pick which one looks better :P


OMG Troll pwns Undead. Troll 4tw!
#8 Apr 10 2005 at 12:43 AM Rating: Decent
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OMG trolls are lame! Go back to your breakdancing, lockpicker!
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#10 Apr 11 2005 at 12:27 AM Rating: Good
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Honestly, unless you are going for a specific look either undead or tauren is what you should choose. War Stomp and Will of the Forsaken tie for the best racial abilities in the game as far as I can tell, as both can really help you out in a pinch (Will of the Forsaken more in PvP than PvE)

Of course both trolls berserk ability and the orc's bloodrage ability, or whatever it is, are being updated in this upcomming patch so it is hard to gauge what the exact effect will be on balence when that is implemented.

For my money, I went tauren and war stomp has saved me countless times. (If you don't go fury for piercing howl war stomp can give the needed head start to run long enough to live)

Sorry I cannot support either troll or orc, but Tauren is simply a better choice (at this time)

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#11 Apr 11 2005 at 3:43 AM Rating: Decent
It definately depends on what kind of build you want to aim for.

I have a friend who has an orc warrior. This is definately a force to be reckoned with.

Orc Flurry warrior dual wielding two epic flurry axes. I'm telling ya.. thats nasty.

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#12 Apr 11 2005 at 4:22 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm in agreement that Tauren is more than just marginally superior. Warstomp is awesome in PVE, and equally as awesome in PVP. It stuns casting which is incredible vs any caster. In PVE, it garners a fairly decent amount of agro, which is very useful when trying to tank multiple mobs (which tend to b-line to your casters). When a mage is AEing a group like that, it also holds them still longer for blizzard to do its magic (literally!).

The stun is invaluable in PvP, especially vs casters. Sure you can only use it every 5 minutes, but it gives an edge over other races.

Will of the Forsaken for Undead is a serious contender too, although I'm not sure if it will shine so much in Battlegrounds where fear/charm spells may target other classes more than warriors. I don't play on a PvP server often enough to say for sure.

Right now, orc and troll really don't compare. Will this change? It's supposed to. But to what extent remains to be seen. Of your two choices, I would take orc. But I would never actually take orc.
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#13 Apr 11 2005 at 11:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Having played Tauren and Undead (undead 4tw) I can safely say that Will of the Forsaken is much more powerful in pvp than War Stomp. War Stomp isn't that great due to it's duration (what is it like a second or two?). Though I will admit it is a very powerful trait (at least compared to some others).

But if you are going for racial bonuses between Orc and Troll, I would go for Troll with that HP regen trait. It's not THAT great but it might save your life.

Personally I would choose which best fits your personality and which you think looks better (and has better /dance emote, undead female's SUCK).
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#14 Apr 11 2005 at 5:07 PM Rating: Good
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Undead females might have a crappy dance, but they have the coolest warrior special attack animations in the game. The female undead do spinning flip-attacks. And since you would be seeing these much more often than the dance, I would think it evens out.

The only race that has warrior attack animations nearly that cool are the Gnomes with thier spinning leap-slashes. Most other races just do a little spin move, while Orcs and Tauren perform overhead bashes.
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#15 Apr 12 2005 at 2:49 AM Rating: Decent
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orc = ax spectialtion
tauren = more hp
troll = eh...
undead = WoTF


so if ur going def spec id go with tauren for the more hp
offencive go troll or undead
and if u want a pur crit war go orc
#16 Apr 12 2005 at 9:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Troll all the way. Trolls get battle regen(hp during combat)... nuff said.
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#17 Apr 12 2005 at 9:17 AM Rating: Good
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Looks. Go with whichever looks the best (in your opinion).

I very rarely see Troll or Undead Warriors thou. Most of the ones I've seen have been Tauren, with some Orcs.
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#18 Apr 12 2005 at 9:27 AM Rating: Good
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troll
troll all the way
the racial stats (as said before) dont amount to squat after a few levels and the racial traits dont really give you much either
it all comes down to this
orcs ARE cool, but trolls FRICKEN PWN
how you do'een mon?
joo wan axe?
who you wammie kill?
NEW TROLL HERE

there really is no question here, i have tried to roll an orc character before, but since i dont really want to play a warlock, all the orc classes are troll accessable, so i cant ever bring myself to be an orc
trolls 4tw
EDIT: also wanted to add, that on EVERY server i have ever been on the horde side, trolls have the least population, so adding to our numbers couldn't hurt :P

Edited, Tue Apr 12 10:29:02 2005 by FinalRare
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#19 Apr 12 2005 at 9:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Orcs allways were and allways will be the original warrior that the others are trying to be. Quite honestly, to see an Orc as anything alse is kind of wierd.


Edited, Tue Apr 12 10:46:14 2005 by knotadwarf

Edited, Tue Apr 12 10:49:05 2005 by knotadwarf
#20 Apr 12 2005 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
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I have a 59 troll warrior, and he's been a lot of fun... have an orc hunter (huntress?) and she's cool too, except her emotes, all sound like someone strangling a baby.

So I'd put my 2 coppers with a troll, although they look really goofy in their armor... didn't think it would bother me much, but if you compare it to the orcs... I'll just say the orcs look like real warriors, and the trolls are just kinda lanky...
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#21 Apr 12 2005 at 3:53 PM Rating: Decent
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#22 Apr 12 2005 at 10:33 PM Rating: Decent
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For the Horde :

Tauren : Warrior-Druid
Troll : Shaman-Priest-Mage
Undead : Rogue-Warlock-Priest-Mage
Orc : Hunter-Warrior-Shaman
#23 Apr 13 2005 at 3:31 AM Rating: Decent
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War stomp, for a shaman, is the only racial+class combo that i wouldn't pass on.

The tauren war stomp shines in pve: best used to drop a 2 seconds improved fire nova totem (mobs would stop it before time otherwise). Very good racial capacity in pvp too, still for a shaman, as a tool when at cc with casters to stop them casting (that and ES, it's nice), or to get 'some' cheap distance against pure cc classes.

Wotf saved my ud mage once, but doesn't look so 'specialy good' to me.

I'm enjoying to play a troll for now, for no special reason.
#24 Apr 13 2005 at 6:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Troll allll the way. Check out their mounts. You get to ride a freakin raptor dude! Thats reason enough for me =) I picked human, greeeatttt now i get some lame horse and a felsteed that looks like a giant raging goat. lol
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#25 Apr 13 2005 at 7:03 AM Rating: Decent
troll is a lot harder than orc is when starting out.
#26 Apr 13 2005 at 9:17 AM Rating: Default
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I would hold off on making an Orc or Troll warrior untill the improved racial traits are introduced. As it stands right now, Tauren and Undead have alot better racial traits, and imo undead are the ONLY race where all there abilities are worthwhile (will of the forsaken is great for PvP, and occasional PvE caster using fear/charm/sleep, shadow resist is probably the most useful resist imo, 300% waterbreathing is a better ability then most realize, and cannabalize is a great way to reduce downtime for warriors/rogues.) That being said, if you don't care about the abilites go for what looks best to you. I personally think all 4 horde races look good, whereas I would NEVER make a dorf or gnome cause they are fugly. Just my 2 cents.
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