For all you newbie trade skillers....Follow

Since everyone is dishing out their Opinion and serving it up as a moral standard for playing this game, I figured I might as well pile on some more crap to this thread.

Everquest II is a role playing Game. I am an Evil Ratonga Thief and I make my living killing everything and anything that earns me a buck. Now, being a roleplaying game and my character being evil and surviving on thievery, I think its my duty to steal kills, items and whatever else my evil character can get ahold of. So be it.

However, if you want to have a set of morals and live by the golden rule, you are welcome to play a Paladin and run with the pack in Queynos. It would make sense not to steal from another character then. That is what roleplaying is all about.

Thanks,
Jim

Ok, since some people seem to have this inane idea that harvested goods are just like mobs, even going so far as to use the term "pulling" (omg I didn't believe that one when I read it, how do you "pull" a hunk of tin?) then what you are really telling me is this:

You and 2 other people are out hunting an uncommon spawn. All of a sudden, 3 of them spawn. They are just far enough away from each other that you can only pull and fight one at a time.

So, do you pull one and let each of the other 2 people pull one or do you start screaming NO THEY ARE ALL MINE YOU DIRTY KS'ers!

This whole argument is just plain ridiculous. There are 3 attempts per node so that more than one person can benefit from the node, not so you have your own personal "pull" of 3 items.

Now if you want to truly compare it to KS'ing it would work slightly different. There would be ONE attempt per node, and if someone with higher skills that could mine/chop/gather faster than you came up and got the node after you had already started working on it THAT would be KS'ing.

It is definitely NOT rude to share a resource that was so obviously meant to be shared.

If any of you want to walk past a node because someone else is there working on it well good for you. I certainly am not going to complain if you join me at a node I am working on, I will still get mine.

Your ethics, while well intended, are misplaced. Please don't try to ram them down my throat.

<steps off of soapbox>

Grist Gudhart
Oasis server, EQ2

Fennin Ro server EQ1
Morrell Thule server EQ1

Just two things I want to point out :


- Don't be offended when reading Newb(ie). Newb just means New Player, ie all of us atm, Noob is the offensive term


- Stop discussing whether it can be compared to KSing or not. It was just a comparison and I guess the original poster simply exaggerated a bit. Rather discuss if it's rude or not, that's the point after all.

It is NOT KS.
You are supposed to share your nodes otherwise SOE wouldnt constructed nodes like this and made locked-node-encounters..
I wont even bother to reply if someone tells me to stop 'KS there nodes'.. mby laugh abit..

So what you are telling me is that if I arrive at the table to find a nice pie cut into 8 pieces I am not supposed to take a slice because someone else got to the pie first and therefore all 8 slices are theirs. If I try to take a slice from the pie I am just being "rude".

Ok, got it. I guess my definitions of 'rude' and 'courteous' just differ greatly from yours.

As for me I am going to help myself to a slice of that delicious pumpkin and the next person that comes along is welcome to a slice as well. If no one else comes along then i am free to eat the whole pie if I want to, or if someone else cut into it first then we can share the whole pie.

That is assuming, of course, that the pie is up for grabs and this person did not "pay" for it (i.e. risk their life breaking a spawn, pulling a mob, etc.)

Now if there was only one slice, on the other hand, the person that was there first gets it. If I should like a taste I would politely ask.

Heh, sorry for all the pie analogies but I am looking forward to that turkey dinner with all the goodies tommorrow :-)

I guess the main thing I am saying is if I start chopping wood and someone else comes along let em swing their axe. I am still going to get my piece of wood. They are not taking it away from me. Not only that, because I was the first one there I will probably get TWO pieces of wood and they will get one (assuming the success).

I don't know how many of you have been out "foraging" in r/l but many years ago I used to go out seeking certain mushrooms. If someone else came along and started picking I didn't say "hey, go find your own mushroom patch... I was here first". No, I usually gave them pointers such as "hey, make sure you thump the mushrooms to knock off the spoors before you pick the, that way there will be plenty next time we come out here" or "here's some nice ones over here".

In game if i am trapping and someone comes and traps in the same nest I may strike up a conversation with them and try to find out if they are seeking pelts/skillups like I am or just harvesting in general. If they are harvesting in general I may try to work a trade with them, if they are also after pelts I may encourage them to harvest the other nodes as well so that more nests spawn. I sure wouldn't get mad at them for doing the same thing I am doing.

To those of you who think it's rude let me pose a question: If you are fishing on a dock and someone else comes and casts their lines off of (gasp) the same dock do you think they are rude and get offended?

I know if I am the second person to that fishing spot I may be friendly and ask "catch anything?" or "how's the fishing?"

I often get a response such as "They seem to be biting good over by that big rock" or something else friendly like that. One thing I have NEVER gotten is "this is my spot, go find your own". Now I realize that if I cast my line out to where he is having some luck I may be catching fish that he would have caught otherwise, but no one owns the fish until it's caught and it certainly isn't considered rude unless I interfere with his fishing. Why should it be any different just because we are in a game?

Grist Gudhart
Oasis server