For all you newbie trade skillers....Follow

You are judging way too harshly. I spent hours the other night trying to find "15 elm" without any luck, yet I always ran past anyone who was working on a wood spawn. Why? Because I was taught to be polite and I consider it rude to intrude. That does not make me "greedy". I'm just someone with a different idea as to what a "polite" person should do.

Right now low level spawns are too rare for the number of people that want/need them. Hopefully, that won't always be the case.

I'm evil, I'll steal anything I can. LOL. Besides, the things respawn so fast, who cares? Just get used to the zone you're harvesting, know where the commonest areas are, run all the nodes when they spawn. Trade the stuff you don't want for the stuff you do. I think that's why they made it the way it is, to increase trading and interaction.

Sometimes I steal nodes, sometimes I don't depending on my mood and the need to level up a skill. Sometimes I gather it from far away (inorder to avoid agro) and somebody else comes and gathers the same spot, ... first time, I don't care, race you to whoever can click the fastest :) ... second time (same guy), feeling like being stalked, ... third time (same guy), ok, getting pissed, time to zone into another area.

I wouldn't consider sharing/stealing nodes KSing since you're not locked into it and nobody else is either. The newbie areas are all crowded and the commonlands/antonica is all so filled with bushes, fallen branches, rocks, dens and such that's just begging to be harvested. Best thing to do is share ... or wait until most everybody else is asleep and run around the new areas. If you're getting pissed at somebody needing to level up their skills, take a deep breath, and say it's only a game. People aren't trying to be a$$e$ or rude, they're just trying to level up

I too have the same problem. How am I to tell the person is harvesting vs. sending a tell to their friends they went up a level vs. just regaining some HP vs. blah blah blah.

Just because someone is standing by something doesn't mean they are doing anything.

Now usually if I see someone by a node I don't run over to it to harvest. Why? Because if they are busy harvesting that then there is a good chance a node may spawn somewhere else in which I can get all the items.

But I will never consider it "kill stealing"

1. Just because all the harvests come from one node they are all separate entities. It would be true "node stealing" if you started to harvest but someone was able to take that 1 specific harvest away from you. They cannot - they get the next one in line.

2. All of this is probably moot anyways since once you get out of the newbie zone the area is so much larger and the nodes are so spread out its rare to see people near the nodes anywasy. People are just freaking out right now because they want to get to skill level 40 so they can farm t2 nodes.

I would like someone to explain to me the opposite though - why is it not rude to want all the harvests from one node to yourself?

At first I would not harvest a node someone else was working on. To me it just seemed impolite. But now Im a level 12 Druid and I have 5 more points to go in trapping before all my skills are above 40. I've been spending a lot of waisted time in Oykmist forest trying to get trapping high enough so I can get out of this area and into Antonica, where I think a level 12 belongs. So if I see a critter den in Oykmist, Im on it.

I would also like to say that Im begining to like this method of trade skilling. It's very engaging and although agravating at times it's also fun. One thing I would like to see is a banker added to the trade skill area, this would save me a lot of zoning in and out.

OK! Need to nip this one in the bud, FAST!

FACT: Nodes are not locked.

FACT: There is no camping.

FACT: There are multiple chances to harvest a single node.

FACT: If the developers wished to lock nodes, they could have done so. They did not.

End this attitude now. You'll only end up hurting yourselves by the whining. Make enough of a fuss and SOE will alter the method and make it more difficult for all. (including the whiners)

Grow up and figure this out quickly and easily, or you'll just ruin it for all.

Anyways to start with the title of this post sucks... who the hell are you to think you know better... I read your post and basicaly that's the guide for the perfect selfish in his own little world. The harvesting tour in Qeynos.
Wake up buddy, you're not alone, courtesy applies in EQ2 and sharing applies in the town Qeynos.

Edited, Sun Nov 21 13:35:30 2004 by GilgameshAngelic

No. If the designers and programmers had chosen to go that way they would have just given you all two to four resources in one harvest. You click on harvest and get three randomly chosen items. Then modify the skill ups to happen 3 times more often so it all evens out.

They went through more effort to make it work the way it currently does, and it wasn't by accident.

Edited, Sun Nov 21 19:29:38 2004 by Ghostpaw

I'm only a level 9 artisan and expect to ding 10 scholar tonight. My experiences thus far in the tradeskilling have been, for the most part, good. The only exception is the harvesting in the Tier One zones.

Because the game is so new the majority of the player base is playing in the Tier One zones, that can't be avoided. As a result more people are harvesting in these zones. It often takes me two or three times as long to do a collect 15 in the Tier One zones as it is taking me in the Tier Two zones. In another few weeks the Tier Two zones will be filled (if that's really possible because the Commonlands are HUGE!) and we may face the same problem there. In an effort to relieve some of the pressure in the harvesting SOE increased the spawn times. Unfortunately, during peak hours, this is insufficient in the smaller Tier One zones, however we have to realize that this is really only a short term problem as the populations on the servers advance in levels and spread out over the zones.

As far as whether or not it stealing or ninjalooting of a node or if someone is greedy because they expect to be able to harvest a node that they found by themselves will not be solved here or by Sony. It is an individual belief. I personally will not harvest a node (even if I need it) if it appears that someone else is already working that node. The only exception to that rule is that if they harvest from a node I'm working because they obviously believe that it's ok to jump a node and won't get offended. If I see a fellow tradecrafter in the Commonlands harvesting something I'm not, I'll send them tells for locs for nodes that I find that they can use.

We, as a small community of DEDICATED tradeskillers, should respect and help one another whenever possible. If you're on Nektolos server and need a hand or a component or subcombine that I can help you with, just drop me a line.

I strongly disagree with the idea that it's KS-ing to be harvesting, gathering or what have you on the same node that someone else is already using. I believe that since this is not handled as a "locked" situation as it is with mobs engaged already that is saying that it is open for all. Also, there are multiple tries on these nodes with the potential of harvesting defferent things on each attempt. I would condsider it "sharing" rather than KS-ing and is simple good manners. That allows for more people to gain from the node and also keeps those individuals who are tempted to be just a wee bit on the "mine mine mine" side of greedy.

If there are a lot of players who feel strongly about not sharing these nodes then they should give a feedback message asking Sony to make these situations "locked" once being used so that others cannot join in on the same node. Then the arguemnt will be solved.

Until such a time as this happens it should be kept in mind that this is a "game" and that sharing is a good thing.

Just my one silver's worth.

Ok I need to correct myself, about crafting, which I was really talking about. I was wrong about not having the items for the recipes that Apprentice Draek gives you to make, on the island of refugee. The items are every where and what u cant find you make, to complete the recipes. I have made many things before leaving the island of refugee, my bed, hammer heads, patterns for armor, steaks of many kinds, it was fun.
But, I must say on EQ2, the mob is locked, but not the harvesting. Someone had come up and took what I was harvesting. That is like kill stealing your mob on eq 1, Can be quite frustrating. I think for the amount of peeps playing in one server, the harvesting respawn time should be quicker on the Island of refugee..Since it is a tutitoral, and a place of training. To me the training isnt just doing the quests, or getting your skills up, but also, getting up your crafting, as well. If there is not enough harvest to go around, I can see why peeps are just taking it.

I do recommend making or buying bags before leaving the island, cause from what I experienced, I was unable to find any hand bags where I was sent, nor did i find any once i became a citizen. There is a quest to get a handbag, but not sure if u can do that quest more than once.
You can also, make crates, and put them in the bank.. before u leave, of course that means getting your skill up high enough to make the crates. Get the recipes books too before u leave the Island, found they are hard to find, when u leave.

On the island raising your collecting skill is tough, cause of the rareity of the drops for collecting.

If you're waiting for people to start being considerate, don't hold your breath. My attitude is, people suck by default and I expect nothing but negativity from them. This way, when they do prove otherwise, it's a treat. I figure it's better to be moving along at a baseline with intermittant rewards than a baseline with intermittant letdowns. Lower those expectations and enjoy the occasional positive curveball=)