Things NOT to do on launch dayFollow

Edited, Mon Nov 8 07:26:46 2004 by Qnos

Money was indeed a big issue. Before the changes to crafting, the Artisans were pretty well off, but the adventuring types were pretty broke after armor/weapon reapair and spell scrolls were paid for. As of the last day of beta, no mobs i was aware of dropped coin. That doesn't mean that none did, but all i was and am aware of never did.

The suggestions i made above are in no way telling people what to do. Anyone with half a brain and "READ" the post would understand that. I am basing that list off things that happened every day in EQ2 BETA, NOT EQ LIVE!

All in all, let me sum it up this way. If you want to act your shoe size, go right ahead. My best guess is that the wise *** responses came from people below 18.

eople want to have fun and be entertained for their 40$ and $15 per month, they don't want to be harassed by those that want the game played for them. If you need directions, are looking for old weapons or armor, or need help with a quest, ask via a tell. Do a "/who all "insert class"" of your class or subclass and you will get a list of people that if asked, probably would be more than willing to help out. People WILL help you if you need it, but not if you demand it or ask in a rude way.

The EQ2 beta was the most helpful beta crowd i have EVER seen. I hope for all of you, you get to expirience what i did.




Edited, Mon Nov 8 07:36:17 2004 by Qnos

When the game launches it'll be /ooc = off for me. If someone asks for some info in my class channel or sends me a tell directly I have no trouble helping them out, but I don't want to hear "where's Hwal?" 800 times a day in Antonica :P I understand being a newbie, but people who are just too lazy to explore and learn some things on their own work my nerves. Or maybe I'm just jaded after 5 years of EQ....or maybe I just need some coffee.

Well Mr. EQ2Noob, even normally helpful people are put off when the same questions are asked every 30 seconds every minute of every day...especially when sticking your nose 20' out from the gate will enable the person to find the answer without asking. If you want to spend every moment of your time responding to lazy people, that's your business of course, but that is in fact what it came down to on beta. And it's a shame for those genuinely confused or lost, because you can't tell one from the other.

So don't jump on the guy until you are online and know what it is going to be like.

Well obvoiusly begging wouldn't get very far on a launch day for the simple reason nothing can be begged! Although I will help someone out if they need that extra plat, or if they've just started and could use my old gear..

Anyway do you honestly think people who call themselves "l337 d00dz0rz11!!1!one" will read your post, and in any way take heed of it?

And also I will be more than willing to help out other players using /shout or /ooc. I will also use that chat most probably to ask for directions and any information myself. It wouldn't be that bad if people were to read over what the says and check it for spellings/punctuation...

And obviously anyone arguing/offending someone in /tell is obvously doing it for a reason! Obvously anyone with social skills would probably not resort offending someone over the internet - But as we all know there are those who do not have social skills...

Just an FYI. There is a chat channel in game for spoilers. I think it is called EQ_spoilers. It should show up in your chat options.
I know this cause my first day I /ooc "Hey where do I find the Oak tree?" I looked for about 45 minutes first =P
I got a direct tell from a very polite and kind player telling me about the spoiler chat channel. This is a perfect solution for people that like to help others and people that get stuck.

Happy Hunting.
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Unfortunately, EQ has plumped up the general standard of what a newbie is = next to no one is an actual newbie. I remember starting 5+ years ago & rarely asked for questions in ooc. Most people, especially those joining the game in the past 2.5 years are expecting all the buffs, the gear, the trinkets & toys that they can get their hands on, free of charge, rather than do what I did & have to pick what spells I was going to buy, cause I only had money for 3, not 9 that that rank gave me. Now thats not a relevant aspect with EQ2 obviously, but the point is. Earn it yourself you lazy bum. If I can do it, so can you.

Explore, enjoy yourself & don't be such a whiney, "I gotta have it all, know exactly where I'm going & gotta make lvl 10 in one day" person.

I'm dreading starting out actually, as its been so long since I was a complete newb (not printing maps for awhile, so I can actually learn & walk the land meself) that I'm probably gonna be disgusted with the majority of the beggars.

Hope I'm wrong.

I think your post was very good. Some points I disaggree with somewhat....you can't tell people what to do, because it'll make some do it all the more..know what I mean? ;)
I played in the beta and I do agree with people spamming the OOC chat-too many times I heard "where is Cannix Silverflame or the siege lands, or undead, I would help at frist, but it got tiring. I didn't have any problem finding Cannix, I stumbled upon him accidently just by exploring, which is how I found the Fallen Gate that I so desperatly wanted to find, but didn't bother asking, because I am the type of person to try first.
I will help people that ask politely, manners do go a long way. Even though we are playing a game, there is a certain level of respect for other people that everyone should have, as if it were RL.
I played EQOA for 2 years and one time at lvl 28(Necro), I got asked, very cutley, by a lvl 12 necro where I got my cool robe. I explained I got it from a mob drop and it took a long time to get. He asked what mob and said he'd try when he was high enough, said thank-you and went on his way. I saved his name in my friends list and when I couldn't use the robe anymore-I sent him a tell and asked if he got a cool robe, he said not really so I repaired the robe I had, and gave it to him, brand new. At first he didn't want it, but I insisted because he was so very nice to me when he asked about it, and he couldn't thank me enough. :)
As far as stupid names, what can you do..I have seen some aweful names like "HerD!@k" and "HisC*#T"-some couple that thought it was funny on EQOA, only thing is...all ages play this, and it is inappropriate and just silly. I had a toon named MaryJane, but that is as far as I go.
Bad langueage the same...it is inapprpriate, but nothing you can do about it..I use bad language but not directed to anyone(calling people names) and only with people I know(private chat or in a group like if I died or had something chase me I might say.."holy ****, run!" or something....), as to not offend anyone.
Begging is pitiful..I ignore people that do it!
Soloing-I do alot, but like to meet new people and group also...it is much more fun to group IMO.
Quest-It is called "Everquest"-and you can get great things from doing them. :)

Is it me or were most of the people who were horrified with the original post people who DID NOT play in beta? I got to play beta for a couple of months and loved it. I saw lots of changes go in during that time.

I made a real attempt to explore on my own at first and I am happy I did it. The world is beautifully done and I loved exploring it with no maps. I will admit that I WAS pretty happy when they put in the in game tracking map for Antonica though. That would have helped a lot figuring out where I was in the world at times.

The bad thing about Beta and what I expect when it goes live is the REDICULOUS number of people who will start this game up without reading ANYTHNG at ALL!!!! How did they get through the Isle of Refuge without even knowing what a spirit shard is or how to use a waypoint? They did not even read the dialogs in the tutorial to miss that kind of info.

The best tip is to actually read or listen to what the NPCs tell you! If you get a quest it is very rare that they do not give you a pretty good idea where to look for the next step. There is never a doubt of what zone to head to for the next step either.

And finally I think old EQ 1 players are in for a shock with the money and armor system. By level 17 I had only bought one piece of armor. That was only because I never stumbled across a quest for that slot. I also never built up my cash to 2 GOLDS! The only thing people seemed to spend any cash on was for spell upgrades.

Yes. I will always remember that about the original EQ when I first started about one year after its launch. I was fighting around, fending for myself and people would just walk up to me and give me equipment, or buffs, or heal me. It made me feel like I was part of a community. From that day on I have done the same whenever I saw a (non-annoying) newbie.

Great list Qnos, and I agree with most of it. However, asking about the location of npc's I disagree with. SOE could have made it a lot more clear on where to find them. I would never say to someone, "Go to Chicago and find person xxx for me." The person I sent would likely never find the one they were looking for. Yet, these are the directions that SOE has given us. "Find Hwal Rucksif in Antonica, oh btw, you are kos to 99.99% of all of the mobs in the zone and they con red to you good luck."

Well that's why i posted the list, to hopefully give a few tips to help people avoid the chumps. I don't think power gamers are chumps however. There's good and bad in every playstyle.:)

What he means Mr. Friendlypants is that people zone in amd without taking so much as 5 steps /shout "Where is so-and-so?" I have asked where locs and mobs are but that was after I had literally uncovered 85% of the map and guess what? The stuff I was looking for was in the black part. One part that gets me is people asking for BIG landmarks that you can see from a LONG distance away.