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#127 Sep 01 2009 at 4:45 PM Rating: Excellent

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Video footage shows the military repeatedly open fire here on unarmed citizens and medical personnel advancing toward Tiananmen Square to locate the missing and assist the wounded.
So, the humor is simple. The horror of people being crushed by tanks is juxtaposed with a humorous ideal of a tongue in cheek greeting card similar to ones offered by companies like Hallmark.

Oh I get it now, I missed the part about the slaughter of innocent people referenced by a greeting card being funny. I guess if you don't know anybody that was hurt by it you can find it kind of difficult to relate. Imagine if someone made a similar "joke" referencing 9/11...

I don't think the definition is really meant to be "making light of terrible events." There has to be some humor, irony, or existential fatalism or something to be black comedy. Doesn't really matter though, its offensive and in poor taste and its not something that should be repeated or proudly displayed.

It's still black comedy, whether you find it funny or not.

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#128 Sep 01 2009 at 5:00 PM Rating: Good

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soulshaver wrote:

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Video footage shows the military repeatedly open fire here on unarmed citizens and medical personnel advancing toward Tiananmen Square to locate the missing and assist the wounded.
So, the humor is simple. The horror of people being crushed by tanks is juxtaposed with a humorous ideal of a tongue in cheek greeting card similar to ones offered by companies like Hallmark.

Oh I get it now, I missed the part about the slaughter of innocent people referenced by a greeting card being funny. I guess if you don't know anybody that was hurt by it you can find it kind of difficult to relate. Imagine if someone made a similar "joke" referencing 9/11...

I don't think the definition is really meant to be "making light of terrible events." There has to be some humor, irony, or existential fatalism or something to be black comedy. Doesn't really matter though, its offensive and in poor taste and its not something that should be repeated or proudly displayed.

It's a form of comedy. Whether you laugh or not is not the point. The intent is to make you go "oh god" but then at the same time find the humor in it. Is it not for everybody? Obviously, but some people find it humorous enough that it lives on. As for 9/11 references, it's been done, too.

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#129 Phurios, Posted: Sep 01 2009 at 5:01 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Feel free to close/lock this thread whenever, I've done everything I set out to do in 2 posts.

#130 Sep 01 2009 at 5:06 PM Rating: Good

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soulshaver wrote:

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How much is the rent on that rock you're living under?

Guess I haven't been keeping up with the lolforumposts.

Actually more like you don't read much.

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Phurios wrote:

Feel free to close/lock this thread whenever, I've done everything I set out to do in 2 posts.

Oh, I thought you wanted a discussion. Why not discuss then? Oh wait, that's right, you wanted to attention ***** then run off into the sunset to be forgotten. Seems to be the new cool trend to ask for your own thread to be locked I guess.

Edited, Sep 1st 2009 9:11pm by Pawkeshup

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#131 Sep 01 2009 at 5:09 PM Rating: Excellent

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soulflakes wrote:

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Video footage shows the military repeatedly open fire here on unarmed citizens and medical personnel advancing toward Tiananmen Square to locate the missing and assist the wounded.
So, the humor is simple. The horror of people being crushed by tanks is juxtaposed with a humorous ideal of a tongue in cheek greeting card similar to ones offered by companies like Hallmark.

Oh I get it now, I missed the part about the slaughter of innocent people referenced by a greeting card being funny. I guess if you don't know anybody that was hurt by it you can find it kind of difficult to relate. Imagine if someone made a similar "joke" referencing 9/11...

This guy seems to be getting quite a few laughs.

soulflakes wrote:

I don't think the definition is really meant to be "making light of terrible events." There has to be some humor, irony, or existential fatalism or something to be black comedy.

"Tanks" sounds like "Thanks", it's a pun, the humor doesn't need to be complex or deep for it to still be black comedy. People tell these types of jokes to alleviate anxiety and awkwardness associated with a certain subject by trivializing it as a psychological defense mechanism. As such, it is more effective if you can relate to the subject matter.

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#132 soulshaver, Posted: Sep 01 2009 at 5:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yeh thats a great example of black comedy. Notice that it has a theme and it doesn't reference the actual vicitms, just the towers.

#133 Sep 01 2009 at 5:12 PM Rating: Good

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Phurios wrote:

Feel free to close/lock this thread whenever, I've done everything I set out to do in 2 posts.

And by this you mean 2 posts on every site you posted your little(lol) essay on, right?

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#134 soulshaver, Posted: Sep 01 2009 at 5:14 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Oh wow I missed "The most offensive ad ever" because I don't read the lolforumposts. Were you trying to prove my point? Thanks.

#135 Sep 01 2009 at 5:15 PM Rating: Excellent

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Phurios wrote:

Feel free to close/lock this thread whenever, I've done everything I set out to do in 2 posts.

Out of curiosity, what was that? Because I don't think anyone has actaully discussed your "work" yet, and if the point was to prove people are ******** (or just for entertainment value) the "out of topic" or "asylum" forums would have been a much more fruitful.

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#136 Sep 01 2009 at 5:16 PM Rating: Excellent

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soulshaver wrote:

Yeh thats a great example of black comedy. Notice that it has a theme and it doesn't reference the actual vicitms, just the towers.

Here is another example of black comedy:

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"Let me tell a joke here,'' Ahmadinejad said. "I think the politicians who are after atomic bombs, or testing them, making them, politically they are backward, retarded.'

It also has general themes of nuclear annihilation and political retards. Notice though that it doesn't reference any specific victims of a tragedy.

This quote is talking about sending a postcard to actual unnamed Chinese persons mocking their tragic loss. I don't see how that qualifies as a joke, or comedy.

You don't understand it to be funny, fine. It's the juxtaposition which attempts to create the humor, which some people find funny. In the quote, I doubt anyone was actually planning to send a card. Much like I don't think anybody actually printed out the card I posted and gave it to somebody seriously.

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Oh wow I missed "The most offensive ad ever" because I don't read the lolforumposts. Were you trying to prove my point? Thanks.

I initially saw that ad on the 6 o'clock local news. I'm pretty sure it was on the news in more forms than just online.

Edited, Sep 1st 2009 7:18pm by Overburn

#137 Sep 01 2009 at 5:17 PM Rating: Decent

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soulshaver wrote:

Imagine if someone made a similar "joke" referencing 9/11...

Tonnes more... in case it's funny yet XD

...it is... :O

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#138 Sep 01 2009 at 5:21 PM Rating: Decent

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soulshaver wrote:

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Actually more like you don't read much.

Oh wow I missed "The most offensive ad ever" because I don't read the lolforumposts. Were you trying to prove my point? Thanks.

Well, since the ad campaign is for a Dutch magazine, the articles in the news are, oddly enough, in Dutch. But, since it's obvious English is your second language, have a whack at the originating article.

Edited, Sep 1st 2009 9:22pm by Pawkeshup

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The idea of old school is way more interesting than the reality

#139 soulshaver, Posted: Sep 01 2009 at 5:23 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So this stuff is generally considered offensive enough to make the news then you're saying?

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soulshaver wrote:

Imagine if someone made a similar "joke" referencing 9/11...

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#141 Sep 01 2009 at 5:25 PM Rating: Good

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To the OP, I am sorry that the better players ruined your experience with FFXI. That your failure to actually put effort in your job choice ruined your experience with FFXI, and I am especially sorry that you actually believed, without a shadow of a doubt, that at least one person on the internet would not only read your wall-o-text, but would agree with you 100%.

Allow me to give you some internet 101. The average internet user has an attention span of no more than 1 full minute (give or take) and will especially hate seeing nothing but a page of text. There are far better things to do, especially when skimming through the first few sentences helps to determine the wall-o-text is someone being a cry baby.

Leave now, or forever be flamed. You have been warned.

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#142 Sep 01 2009 at 5:31 PM Rating: Good

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I initially saw that ad on the 6 o'clock local news. I'm pretty sure it was on the news in more forms than just online.

So this stuff is generally considered offensive enough to make the news then you're saying?

Shocking enough, maybe. Again, as I've said atleast 3 times before, it's not for everybody. For ****'s sake, people liked Mencia long enough for his show to last like 3 seasons and Tyler Perry comes out with a ****** movie every 2 months.

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soulshaver wrote:

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I initially saw that ad on the 6 o'clock local news. I'm pretty sure it was on the news in more forms than just online.

So this stuff is generally considered offensive enough to make the news then you're saying?

So, what you're really saying is that you're enjoying all the attention we are paying to your useless posts, when in fact most of us are just doing it for the lulz?

Did your mommy not hug you when you were a kid? Please, tell us what hurts. We're here to help you.

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The idea of old school is way more interesting than the reality

#144 Sep 01 2009 at 5:36 PM Rating: Good

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Phurios wrote:

Feel free to close/lock this thread whenever, I've done everything I set out to do in 2 posts.

So much for having a discussion, eh?

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#145 Sep 01 2009 at 5:38 PM Rating: Good

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Pawkeshup the Ludicrous wrote:

soulshaver wrote:

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I initially saw that ad on the 6 o'clock local news. I'm pretty sure it was on the news in more forms than just online.

So this stuff is generally considered offensive enough to make the news then you're saying?

So, what you're really saying is that you're enjoying all the attention we are paying to your useless posts, when in fact most of us are just doing it for the lulz?

Did your mommy not hug you when you were a kid? Please, tell us what hurts. We're here to help you.

Maybe his mother "hugged" him too hard in the wrong place? You should get out the doll.

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#146 Sep 01 2009 at 5:46 PM Rating: Default

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I was just hoping to take up the OP's offer on an artful discussion over the issues addressed, but I failed to derail the thread from the name calling flamefest that it usually is. I guess I fail at lolforumposting.

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Pawkeshup the Ludicrous wrote:

soulshaver wrote:

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I initially saw that ad on the 6 o'clock local news. I'm pretty sure it was on the news in more forms than just online.

So this stuff is generally considered offensive enough to make the news then you're saying?

So, what you're really saying is that you're enjoying all the attention we are paying to your useless posts, when in fact most of us are just doing it for the lulz?

Did your mommy not hug you when you were a kid? Please, tell us what hurts. We're here to help you.

Maybe his mother "hugged" him too hard in the wrong place? You should get out the doll.

OMG YOU USED BLACK HUMOR! IMMA FLAME YOU RAWRARAR!!!

soulshaver wrote:

I was just hoping to take up the OP's offer on an artful discussion over the issues addressed, but I failed to derail the thread from the name calling flamefest that it usually is. I guess I fail at lolforumposting.

OK, let's do something that will make us both happy. You make an intelligence response to the OP, and then I'll link to a thread where that response existed back when people gave a **** about pointless discussions like this.

Edited, Sep 1st 2009 9:52pm by Pawkeshup

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Olorinus the Ludicrous wrote:

The idea of old school is way more interesting than the reality

#148 Sep 01 2009 at 5:52 PM Rating: Good

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soulshaver wrote:

I was just hoping to take up the OP's offer on an artful discussion over the issues addressed, but I failed to derail the thread from the name calling flamefest that it usually is. I guess I fail at lolforumposting.

Simply adding lol before a word doesn't magically make you better than the thing you put lol before. I'd be happy to have a discussion, as long as it's not on something boldly incorrect and hypocritical.

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soulshaver wrote:

I was just hoping to take up the OP's offer on an artful discussion over the issues addressed, but I failed to derail the thread from the name calling flamefest that it usually is.

You'know, since you seem to like that sort of long winded, conceited finger pointing you could just browse the old general forum threads and read the thousands of discussions that have already been conducted on these topics. ~~Just look for the ones that mention quitting, HNM troubles, elitists, player competence, pro/anti-SAM, pro/anti-RDM,~~ pretty much any of them will do, the more entertaining ones are locked and multiple pages.

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#150 Sep 01 2009 at 7:28 PM Rating: Decent

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soulshaver wrote:

Imagine if someone made a similar "joke" referencing 9/11...

Never been to 4chan I see.

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