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#27 Apr 08 2009 at 8:33 AM Rating: Good
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I believe SE earlier stated that the Mog Satchel would essentially function as a portable Mog Safe. If I'm imagining it correctly (and one never really knows with these folks), you can access your satchel from anywhere, but you can only use, equip, bazaar, and otherwise take advantage of items in your actual inventory. This seems to make sense, since the game could otherwise have some difficulty knowing which group of inventory slots to look at when showing you what you can equip, for example.

Hey, it's not exactly double inventory, but you can still get to that stuff at any time and just move it in and out of your inventory, so that's still pretty neat. I'm looking forward to having more space to carry random crafting materials.
#28 Apr 08 2009 at 8:35 AM Rating: Default
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Now I am led to believe that Augmented items will come from Fields of Valor, the whole trade equipment deal. Who knows =/

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Note that it is not possible to equip or use items directly from one's Mog Satchel, or sell them via bazaars.


Wow, that kind of goes against what SE said... they made it seem like it is an extra inventory slot, but now it just functions as another mog locker? There is going to be an angry mob very very soon.



Edited, Apr 8th 2009 9:28am by ImmortalAlchemist



yeah a mog locker that you dont have to be in your mog house or at a moogle to transfer items too and from.... i dont see why anyone would complain... now i can carry around all my brd rdm thf and sam gear at the same time... which would be rather pointless since id still gavhave to go to my mog house to change jobs lol
#29 Apr 08 2009 at 8:35 AM Rating: Default
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I just personally find it unfair there's no chance of getting one unless you are on a PC and fork out gil... I do not really want a security token even if it worked on other systems (Does it?) though anyway.
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I kind of figured the Mog Satchel would work like this. It's not as bad as you think.

You can still access it from "anywhere in vanadiel" but you can't equip gear from macros in it, or use items from it.

What will be going into my mog satchel? Tons of crap.

- Extra poison potions, echo drops, silent oils, prism powders, all my ninja toolbags for things besides shihei that only need to get used once a month.

- One time use gear -- teleporting rings, warp cudgel, Tidal Talisman, etc -- that is used and then can't be used again for a period of time. Pop it into regular inventory, use it, take it off, Mog satchel it again til it's usable.

- Triggers. Sea, sky, salvage. I can keep the whole kit'n cabooble on me and free up some valuable mog house space.

- Currency that is presently sucking up space in my storage.

- KEYS.

Oh, I can totally fill up 80 slots with all this junk alone.

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#31jschaub, Posted: Apr 08 2009 at 8:35 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So, ummmm, how do I start the new missions? How do I augment? Where do I go and what do I do????? AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
#32 Apr 08 2009 at 8:36 AM Rating: Decent
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The Delkfutt key may now be obtained as a Key Item.
The key item may be obtained by trading the standard Delkfutt key to any location where the key is required to gain access. After obtaining the Key Item, the standard item may be discarded with no consequences.


Anyone laughed at that one?

I know its nice to get 1 invent back I guess >.> but from all the small changes they could have made that aint the one I would have asked for.


I figure it's more for those who did the rank mission to get it, then stupidly left it in their MH when helping someone else.

Or, like my wife, threw the damn thing away. Then when she went to do her ZMs for sky access, had to take the long way up.
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#33 Apr 08 2009 at 8:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Now I am led to believe that Augmented items will come from Fields of Valor, the whole trade equipment deal. Who knows =/

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Note that it is not possible to equip or use items directly from one's Mog Satchel, or sell them via bazaars.


Wow, that kind of goes against what SE said... they made it seem like it is an extra inventory slot, but now it just functions as another mog locker? There is going to be an angry mob very very soon.



Edited, Apr 8th 2009 9:28am by ImmortalAlchemist



Really? I read it as a mog locker you can access anywhere you wanted to. On the field in town mid battle. That's what it is.
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#34Hemphogg, Posted: Apr 08 2009 at 8:38 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Holy satchel fail, and thats why I don't preorder crap!
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I like it, I constantly forget my Key... Scatter brained I guess. And who would turn down an additional inventory slot?
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#36 Apr 08 2009 at 8:38 AM Rating: Default
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I'm a bit worried about the new expansion.

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Players will be awarded keys (in the form of Key Items) throughout the course of the scenario for claiming victory in battlefields and collecting particular items.


So are we going to need to get that 1% drop rate item after a BC to get our augmented armors? Or am I just paranoid about SE's game design?


ops, code instead of quote.

Edited, Apr 8th 2009 6:39pm by Mellowy
#37 Apr 08 2009 at 8:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Well at least there are two new battlefields. Hopefully the past equivilent of ISNM is anywhere near as good as ISNMs. I love that system.

wtf mannequin storage.

Wake me when someone dat mines the weapons and armor kthx
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#38 Apr 08 2009 at 8:38 AM Rating: Default
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I just personally find it unfair there's no chance of getting one unless you are on a PC and fork out gil... I do not really want a security token even if it worked on other systems (Does it?) though anyway.

Protip: It does. Its just a keychain, not a USB login stick.

If you're posting on this forum, you can enable it for your PS2 account, but afaik you can configure one entirely within POL too.
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#39 Apr 08 2009 at 8:39 AM Rating: Good
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So, ummmm, how do I start the new missions? How do I augment? Where do I go and what do I do????? AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Sorry, /panic. I just hope they make it fairly obvious on how we start these two things.
Ten bucks says zoning into Jeuno starts the new expansion..

Once we can plug through the files and see how long the scenario is mission-wise....man I can't wait XD

And Mellowy - I bet it works like this

"Mellowy Defeats UltimaciaSephirothZeromus"
"Mellowy Obtains Key Item: "SupercoolItemVoucher!"
Mellowy runs to Chest
Clicks chest
Chest: "OMG MEllowy YOU CAN TRADE THAT KEY ITEM FOR THIS, THIS, THIS, OR THIS. WHAT DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CHOOSE?"

Which goes in line with the "You can reap as many rewards as you want from it" thing in one of the recent interviews.

Edited, Apr 8th 2009 11:40am by plutoknight
#40 Apr 08 2009 at 8:39 AM Rating: Decent
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I was expecting to see a lot more detail on armour augmentation and I see absolutely nothing on it aside from the know issue regarding it. Really SE how can you introduce an entirely new concept to the game in an update and not even touch on it.

That being said, the rest was all pretty much mentioned. I am glad I didn't /toss my manequins though... They finally have a purpose again.

Guess we'll wait for the data mining to start and see if maybe there is more in the gear than just the bells...

Over-all, aside from the expansion, not really a whole lot of "YAY" stuff for me. WHM definitely gets some new toys to play around with though.
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#41 Apr 08 2009 at 8:39 AM Rating: Good
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Shocked nobody has mentioned it, FoV in sky!!!

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#42 Apr 08 2009 at 8:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Oh? Really? I thought you had to use the flash before they allowed you to get the sachet... In that case, I want my +80 inventory space please!
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Seriously, I already paid my $10 for the expansion, they better not make it a 1% drop from a lvl 75 group BCNM. Sorry, for 10 bucks, make it 100% drop and let me solo it. You already got my money!!
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#44 Apr 08 2009 at 8:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Shocked nobody has mentioned it, FoV in sky!!! Finally 72-75 solo just got easier.


It's gonna make sky awfully crowded though. Gonna be a lot of BSTs in sky.
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#45 Apr 08 2009 at 8:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Shocked nobody has mentioned it, FoV in sky!!! Finally 72-75 solo just got easier.


Why would we? Stupid Sky doesn't want my NPC friend.
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I'm dissapointed.

Don't get me wrong, lots of good stuff, but after they released the Whm info first, I was expecting it to get better each time (as it usually does, and as it should). Instead, every update after the Whm one has been lamer and lamer.

I'm looking really forwad to the Augmenting system and Whm updates, but they REALLY should have left the Whm update till last - it was so great it was hard to follow.

Can't wait till dat miners get stuff :3
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Btw guys, 2111 files to download for PC version. I have the day off today, so .DAT mining will start shortly
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I propose that some form "they should have saved WHM for last" become a FFXI meme, because that's about the five-hundredth time I've seen someone say that.
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I think the new FoV bonuses could be incredibly good, but we'll have to see. What kind of items will the NM's drop? How much XP will we get for trading seals? I have 1400 beastman and 600 KS seals, so I could sure use them.
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I propose that some form "they should have saved WHM for last" become a FFXI meme, because that's about the five-hundredth time I've seen someone say that.
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