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#27 Nov 24 2007 at 6:34 AM Rating: Decent
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I sqeaked through because I didn't hammer it. I tried, I got the error, I came here and saw others were getting the error, I tried again, got the error again, went and fixed a snack, and came back and got in on the third try. Go on, hate me. And I got in around the 10th try for my room mate's copy. I did cross stitch for her christmas present in between her tries.

I didn't spam it three times in succession! I waited in between tries! I didn't even get my expansion until stupid late last night because my boyfriend had my car >_>;; So I spent all day leveling another job in the jungles instead of complaining about not being able to go pick up my expansion.
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#28 Nov 24 2007 at 6:46 AM Rating: Default
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Common peeps... havnt you all figured it out by now.. were not gettin in because of the crazy DOS attacks.


Just kidding.. I'm pissed too but I couldnt resist to thro in a oldie but goodie.
#29 Nov 24 2007 at 6:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow, I actually managed to register.

Good thing I didn't take your "great advice" and continue to do what I had done the past two days.

Looks like spamming Retry actually works.
#30 Nov 24 2007 at 6:56 AM Rating: Default
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I agree bro.. i just got in to.. all while eating a bowl of cereal. :)
Multi-tasking FTW.
#31 Nov 24 2007 at 7:02 AM Rating: Good
I just finished also. Maybe something got fixed?
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#32 Nov 24 2007 at 7:06 AM Rating: Good
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I've got a job.
With 10 hour shifts.
I somehow got a week off.

Can't blame me for wanting to register the expansion on my week off, now can ya? :P Only makes sense...after all....the game WAS released 3 days ago.
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#33 Nov 24 2007 at 7:13 AM Rating: Decent
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There is too a way, it's the people who spam it that are clogging the servers even further.


Because spamming Retry is the only way that works for most people?

I've been trying to register for 2 days now. Not spammng Retry obviously didn't work for me.


That works because you EVENTUALLY get in.

Yet while you don't get in after the first few tries, you're making it worst by flooding the servers trying to get in instead of waiting for the issue to be fixed.


Why do you think the registration issue is actually going to be fixed? Seriously, what has SE done this week to make you think they'll fix it, other than let attrition fix the issue?
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#34 Nov 24 2007 at 7:16 AM Rating: Default
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I'd set it up so that after 10 failed tries at registration, you get a message saying that all your content ID's would be suspended for 7 days if you try to register again before waiting 30 minutes.

That'll weed out those idiots who lack self control and patience very quickly.


If you were SE, you would have a failed game, due to losing customers.

Punish the users for a mistake made by the game company...that makes perfect sense..
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#35 Nov 24 2007 at 7:18 AM Rating: Decent
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#36 Nov 24 2007 at 9:40 AM Rating: Decent
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The people who spam retry get to register. The people who give up don't. It's that simple.

It's not the fault of the damn playerbase that the registration server is overwhelmed. It wasn't the playerbase's idea to stick an ethernet card into an old Pentium II and call it a registration server. It wasn't the playerbase who failed to realize that lots of people would be trying to register an expansion on (surprise!) the first day they could. It wasn't the playerbase's idea to release the expansion right on top of an American national holiday, ensuring that most American players would get the expansion on the same day, rather than spreading it out a bit.

Admit it, fanbois, your lord and savior SE screwed up.

If you want to register, then spam. That's the bottom line. The players didn't make it that way.
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#37 Nov 24 2007 at 10:36 AM Rating: Good
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Even if we spam the retry button for days on end (up to 10+ hours for me) there are a few that get in after 5-10 minutes. Thats the part that pisses me off. Why is it that alot of people go 5, 10, or even 20 hours spamming the system without getting away from that annoying red screen while some one else gets lucky and sweaks through?


Because that's how luck works.
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#38 Nov 24 2007 at 10:41 AM Rating: Decent
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The people who spam retry get to register. The people who give up don't. It's that simple.
You certain about that? I tried once every ten or so minutes. Had better things to do than sit spazzing on a single button for my entire holiday weekend.

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#39 Nov 24 2007 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
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I keep saying there probably already WAS a queue system in place, but no one believes me. That's how file transfer protocols work. Maybe 100 or so people are the lucky winners at any given time, and when they're done, another person takes their place.


That isn't a queue, thats 100 simultaneous connections supported.
#40silverdevil, Posted: Nov 24 2007 at 11:06 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I spent 12 hours yesterday hitting the retry button every 10-15 mins and i'm still not in. I finaly gave up and took WoTg back to the store for a refund, no use paying 30 bucks for a game I cant enjoy. Just my 2 gil.
#41 Nov 24 2007 at 11:15 AM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
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The people who spam retry get to register. The people who give up don't. It's that simple.
You certain about that? I tried once every ten or so minutes. Had better things to do than sit spazzing on a single button for my entire holiday weekend.

My Dancer is 37.


Sure, why not? If you have a small chance of connecting for each attempt made, then the more attempts you make, the better your chances. Besides, on the PS2 at least each attempt took about five minutes before it'd let me try again. If it's different on Xbox or PC I don't know.

That doesn't mean I recommend that you spend twelve straight hours banging the retry button. That would be bad for your mental health. I'm pretty sure doing so will give you the most chances to register, though.

The way I did it was to spam it two or three times in a row, then do something else for a bit, and repeat. Both of the times I finally connected were in the middle of a spamming session. That probably doesn't really mean anything, except that taking breaks in itself won't improve your chances of registering.
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#42 Nov 24 2007 at 11:18 AM Rating: Default
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silverdevil wrote:
I spent 12 hours yesterday hitting the retry button every 10-15 mins and i'm still not in. I finaly gave up and took WoTg back to the store for a refund, no use paying 30 bucks for a game I cant enjoy. Just my 2 gil.


You're still going to have to buy it again in a few days when the registration server is fixed, you dolt.

Unless you absolutely refuse to ever play WotG because you couldn't register in the first couple days. In that case... wow.

Edited, Nov 24th 2007 1:19pm by bsphil
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#43 Nov 24 2007 at 11:21 AM Rating: Good
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Also, you can't return opened software. You'll have an easier time squeezing that thirty bucks out of SE itself. Which also won't happen.

Yer screwed.
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#44 Nov 24 2007 at 11:25 AM Rating: Default
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wow...I was not expecting this thread to turn into a heated debate. I was just saying that if i were SE I'd threaten to ban people if they spammed MY registration server.

Though if I were SE all along I would have:

torrented updates(similar to WoW)

a visible queue ,so i know just where the hell I stand in the registry.

A windower, several years ago - and not one that sucks.

However, if all the sudden I JUST now became head of SE and FFXI specifically, I'd just threaten to ban people. It's to late for SE to fix their inefficient registration process for THIS update. Also...Lolgaxe just said his dancer was 37...which means...time to log into unicorn and try to figure out which dude he is.
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#45 Nov 24 2007 at 11:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Well I tryed to take it back, no go. But I was gonna get a bifferent game to play. So I was gonna pass on it yes, because this is now redundant (spelling).
It's the point that SE cant do anything right, and the player base always has to live with BS like this. I payed my 30 bucks to play a game not wait 2-4 days to play it.

and the 12 hours was coming back and hitting the retry once every 10-15 mins while do other things. No way in hell am I gonna sit here and do that lol.
#46 Nov 24 2007 at 11:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Himmelskralle the Righteous wrote:
However, if all the sudden I JUST now became head of SE and FFXI specifically, I'd just threaten to ban people.


You're going to ban people for wanting to play... how is this helpful? Would fix the registration lag at least, because everyone who tried to is banned for the next week. The problem will disappear... until next week when all the bans are up and everyone tries to register again.
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#47 Nov 24 2007 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
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The reg thing just adds insult when i still get stuck at whitegate npcs. Though SE could have got another server up for reg that they turn around and use in the future for new expanions or thier new MMO. Its not like it will go to waste investing in that. I'll enjoy the chacne at lvling low lvl jobs till the conjestion goes down. I had a feeling when it got pushed back this was going to happen, I hate it when im right.
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#48 Nov 24 2007 at 12:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Aww man i'm so mad now >.< finaly got to put my code in then that went through, so I started to get happy. Hit the ok button and error >.< %^$%#& lol
#49 Nov 24 2007 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
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SE dropped the ball, and they appear to be doing nothing to fix that.

I work at a webhosting company. So i am farmiliar with sudden influxes of traffic when one of our clients gets a spot on a TV show, newspaper, radio.. ect..

Common sense tells them that they are going to get more traffic. Hell, they can even figure out how many people will see the add and project how many hits they will have... (keep in mind, most if not all our clients are complete idiots)

They still realize they need to talk to us and go over the numbers, move to a VPS, dedicated, or cluster.

SE knows how many players they have. They also know that this is a holiday in the US. Anyone with a brain could tell you that people would plan to play the expansion with the time off. They even knew that the PC version would be delayed and cause a train wreck... but it looks like they did nothing to get ready for it.

Well, my registration finally went through, so no more complaining.

But this was a FUBAR move on SE's behalf. After running this game for so many years... they really should know better.
#50 Nov 24 2007 at 12:13 PM Rating: Good
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silverdevil wrote:
Aww man i'm so mad now >.< finaly got to put my code in then that went through, so I started to get happy. Hit the ok button and error >.< %^$%#& lol


Don't be an idiot and back out now. Just keep hitting retry and eventually your code will go through. If you hit exit then you have to start all over again.
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#51 Nov 24 2007 at 12:24 PM Rating: Good
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I dunno, running with the whole 3-5 minutes to register thing, way back when SE said the PC/PS2 split is about 50/50, with the majority of PS2 in Japan while the PC is NA (and elsewhere). Since then, the 360 version's come, so let's just say the split's now 2:2:1 PC:PS2:360. When the expansion went live, I don't remember reading about registration problems until the PC version finally hit the shelves. Let's be generous and assume 100k people got in between the PS2 and 360 crowd before this point (because let's face it, people want in first to exploit everyone else).

This leaves 125,000 PS2, 75,000 360, then the 200,000 PC in just throwing BS numbers around for the Wed/Thur reg times. There are 1440 minutes in a day, which means at 3-5m per registration, 288-480 individuals should've registered. Of course, this assumes only one person can go at a time which would be insanely stupid. Let's say 25 can go at once. 7200-12000 in a 24 hour period seems more like what's going on when you compare the collective cries of *********** I've been spamming!" and "Yay, got in!" Though, as I type this, those numbers should be about 10300-18000.

So, we've got a lot of users to go, don't we? Oops doesn't even really begin to cover it. Especially when this issue never surfaced with the registration of CoP or ToAU. I had a lovely little 5:30am-10:15pm shift for work yesterday, so I didn't really get to spam. Tried a few times when I got home, went and watched a movie, tried a few more before I went to bed, then woke up about an hour and did some clicking between reading. Still not in. Still annoyed. Though, I still have to go to work again in about a half hour so I'll have 6 hours of everyone else getting the chance to at least try and get in, but the numbers will still be staggeringly depressing when I get home.

I'd like to be playing what I bought on my day off tomorrow, but it's not seeming likely. Frankly, spamming retry's got **** to do with the issue when you realize 2 other expansions came and went. There's something else we're simply not being informed of and being left to speculate over, and that's just the easiest scapegoat.
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