So you think shes a girlFollow

QFT

I got hit on all the time in Runescape, and I played a male character. omgwtfbbq

It's happened to me a couple times in FFXI, but from what I remember they were from people that knew me previously, and it was said (mostly?) in jest >_>

QFT. That was out of line, Ajana, very much so.

So basically Rheywolf and Lylia you're ok with this person attempting to invade someones privacy? I could honestly care less about the rest but that set me off. As if people being stalked and harrassed in real life we now have scum like this doing it to people online because they don't agree with some lifestyle choice. There are very limited circumstances that what someone else does online is ANY of your business. If they're a 35 year old guy trying to pick up a 12 year old girl this is a problem. Someone telling you they're a guy or girl in real life.... well i'm sorry it's still none of your business.

I happen to have a problem because the OP is basically an online stalker. And OP guess what i don't want to put myself in your shoes. You've basically come on here and admitted you're stalking someone without giving a convincing reason(like they murdered your mother and are trying to catch them). Your reason is complete and utter BS. To point out a little of YOUR hypocrisy prove that you are in fact a woman...... oh wait it's none of my business just like these other peoples life is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

And to anyone thinking i'm out of line how would you feel if the OP decided to "check up" on you and you found out? Would you feel violated? I know for a fact i would and i would talk to a lawyer to see if there was any remedy I could seek against a piece of trash like this.

I don't really care if anyone "checks up" on me because I don't lie about anything in the first place. My life's an open book really, I have nothing to hide.

The gender thing doesn't really matter here, it's the fact that this person lied, and was deemed unfit for the linkshell as a result.

Well, first off, the OP did post this:



I've bolded the relevant part. Apparently this person sent the OP someone else's pictures claiming to be that person--something I find a much greater "sin" than someone merely Googling a person. There are very, very few of us who haven't Googled a long-lost friend's name, a boyfriend's name, our own names or those of their family members. Employers use it all the time to learn more about prospective employees--not digging for dirt, mind you, but just catching a glimpse of the information that is already out there, available for anyone who has a person's name.

I agree that it's none of anyone's business whether someone online is male or female, gay or straight, black or white or yellow or green or young or old or fat or skinny--BUT, when someone sends you pictures of "herself" and appears not only willing, but eager to invite others into their real lives, it can hardly be considered snooping.

Faking an identity isn't a way to avoid stalkers and creeps; not giving out personal information and sending out photos of "yourself" is, however. This is why there're no pictures of me out there and why most people don't learn my full name. Faking an identity is something people do for less virtuous motives than merely avoiding harassment; it's easy to avoid harassment without deceiving anyone about who you are.



Again, Googling someone isn't quite the same as stalking. The reason the OP Googled her "friend" is that she suspected her friend was someone other than who "she" was. And apparently "she" doesn't exist at all. I commend the OP for taking it upon herself to research some guy pretending to be a woman, because to me that's somewhat nefarious behavior.

The OP doesn't have to prove she's a she; her identity is not in question, because she's done nothing to raise anyone's suspicions that she is who she says she is--a person who became increasingly uneasy about her "friend."



I'm sure more people have checked up on me than I know. I don't care at all, as long as they're not using the information against me in any way. There isn't much information to be had; I don't put a lot of my real self out there to people I don't already know and trust...and that includes knowing that they are who they say they are.

Good luck talking to a lawyer about someone Googling you, though; better be ready to take your girlfriend/boyfriend to court, along with your employer (if you work), your teachers (if you're in school), your family members, your friends, and anyone else who's bored and knows your name. Let's try to remember that the OP didn't exactly look into anyone's medical or criminal records--just a cursory Google search will tell people most of what they want to know about others, assuming what they want to know is fairly harmless.

Oh, and please don't rate me down because you disagree with me. I don't care if you think I'm wrong, but the rate-down feature isn't to separate "People who think just like me" from "people who should be stifled on a public message board."

You are correct. My intended meaning is as you said, but I misworded a bit.

stalker

n 1: someone who walks with long stiff strides 2: someone who stalks game 3: someone who prowls or sneaks about; usually with unlawful intentions

Now you might be able to squint real hard and make a case for 'sneaks' but show me in the OP anything that can be construed as 'unlawful' intentions. In fact, it could very well be that the subject mentioned in the OP is attempting to fraudulently represent themselves. As for the 'sneaking' part, how is doing research through public information considered sneaky? I can't imagine turing in a thesis and getting a failing grade, because I was 'sneaky' in my research.

The OP also stated that this has gone on for months, and that the subject in question asked the original poster to post photographs on the original poster's web site. If these in fact turned out to be fraudulent, then the original poster would be an accessory to perpetuating a fraud. That would be an irresponsible and possibly unlawful action. If a sales clerk at a local convenience store is presented with what they suspect is a fraudulent ID from a person attempting to purchase liquor, does that clerk not have a responsibility to deny the sale until acceptable proof of age is presented?

Using the word stalker in conjuction with the internet is a rather serious accusation, much more serious than stating your suspicions about the gender of another person. You should be more careful about throwing around baseless claims of stalking, lest you find yourself having to seek legal advice.

If someone asks to be a part of 'your' linkshell, asks you to post pictures of them on 'your' website, then, in fact, that does become 'your' business.

From what I can discern from the OP, this person felt that they had been lied to and betrayed. And was simply asking the person to come clean and tell them the truth. There are many reasons why a person would want to be able to trust a member in their linkshell. And if that trust if blemished or destroyed, then why shouldn't a person have the right to evict someone from their linkshell?

And please, refrain from name calling ("piece of trash like this") as it only diminishes your position.

Ok I take offense to this. That statement there is sexist IMO. I'm a girl and I'm completely copmpetent in my party. You say I'm "Just a girl"... well ya know what I know a whole bunch of "just a guys" that don't have the skills that I have.

Get off your high horse. Girls can play video games just as well as guys can. We aren't some sort of intellectually inferior breed of being that has to be hand fed everything because we can't do it on our own. Thats a very common stereotype that video games are for men, and women that play video games have to be helped because they are inccompetent and/or can't figure out how they work. We don't need to be hand fed anything more than guys do. Lotsa guys suck at video games too ya know. That door swingss both ways.

I've played RPG's all my life. Console RPG's always have the women playing the cleric, the healer type that has to be protected by the manly warriors because they fall on the battlefield first when pummeled by opposition. Is that where you get this notion?

I can live with video games portraying females as the healers and men as the warriors, (although I do like it when I see women warriors like Ayla in Chrono Trigger). But if you take that perception into reality you've made a big mistake.

Thats my opinion and I stand by it.

-Melphina

I think you read that wrong... He was just giving an example. That instance he gave sometimes happens. He's not saying that that happens all the time, and that all girls are like that. XD

It is a sexist way of thinking. There are a lot of boys who think that way (note that anyone who believes this is a boy, not a man, because men are familiar enough with women to know better than to make such assertions). I don't take offense at it so much as I like to disprove it utterly; I know I'm a decent player, and while I may not be the Best Ever, that's not because I'm female, but because I'm not as invested in the game as someone with more free time and a deeper obsession.

There are just as many horrible male players as female players--more, actually, since there are still plenty more male gamers than female ones. But it's so easy to look at crappy player A and crappy player B and say, "Ohhh...B sucks because she's just a girl!" whereas there's no such easy way to hook lousy playing on gamer A.

Edited to add:

Yeah, I don't think the guy posting this is guilty of thinking this way, just pointing out that some people do think this way. It isn't sexist to point out sexist thinking, just honest.

Edited, Tue Jun 6 00:00:59 2006 by Lylia

I remember when I was younger and I used to play Ragnarok Online. When I played, people used to ask for money all the time, and I would give it to them if I had enough. There were times when I was feeling generous and would give 10,000, maybe even 1 mil, even if the person only asked for 1,000. This didn't vary between genders. For me, I don't think there has been one time when I thought, "Wow, she sucks because she's a girl". More like, "Well, she just started the game so she's not used to it yet." Or, in my older brother's girlfriend's case, "She hasn't played many games in her entire life, so it'll take a little while to get used to."

What I don't understand is this: how can you generalize an entire population of females being bad at gaming just because you know many females who do suck at gaming? That doesn't account for the billions of other females. Stereotyping is so wrong and pisses me off a lot =P.