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#1 Dec 10 2004 at 1:55 AM Rating: Decent
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As i just got to jeuno and wanted to put a pair of courage ring+1 I noticed i was gonna get a fee of 2009 gil so i was like O.o

I said ***** that but i was not mad about it i just sent a /sh saying 2009 fee for me to sell 1 ring ***** that they can kiss my big fat taru A$$!

But then i got a tell from a *** player or i think he was i never talked to him before he spoke english and he told me Are you happy now NA. I was like /huh then he went off .....

This used to be a good game ( I took that as b4 NA joined lol )
then he mention all we do is complain , complain and complain
he said everybody has the same chance to get a NM is not our fault you guys dont have what it takes

Then i was like is this conversation gonna lower my tax rate? oops was that a complain O.o lol

Then he said think about it NA complained about getting summons at early level , complain we got the expansion early even if it was for a couple days also complain about how they cant craft certain items. Now the issue of gilsellers which in case you didnt know they are LOTS of NA sellers

I was like i dont care much about that I got all the whm / blm gear from lv 1 to 50 and the erase scroll thanks to my sister lol But noooo he kept going anyways ; ;

I guess his point was the we are ruining the game because we cant do nothing good just complain about stuff but i read this forums all the time and what i see 99.2% are complains ; ; was this person right?

I know SE is trying to make everyone happy but i believe things are not going change now i log back and what do i see

Leaping Boots 500k
EMP Pin 510k
Astral Rings 500k

and after that i went and sat in front of moogle for 20 minutes lol and the first thing it came to my mind are the *** trying to push us out of this game for good?

I dont take this game seriuos i like to have fun if i died 10 times so what it happends , Rdm doesnt have dispell hey i give him a lil advise i wont tell that person to get out but other people treat this game as something very personal which i guess i will never understand why

Sorry about the post this is my 1st one and i just wanted to share this to see if any of you have encountered a similar experience

Thanks for your time take care =)



Edited, Fri Dec 10 02:00:14 2004 by Lacucaracha
#2 Dec 10 2004 at 2:01 AM Rating: Good
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then he mention all we [NA] do is complain , complain and complain


Perhaps he was right. We do complain too much. However, I don't think it's a cultural problem. Judging from his attitude, evidently all they do is complain, too. ;-)

Yeah, and let me clarify... I don't think it's fair to judge whole continents/countries/cultures by the whiney loudmouths. Humans by nature will express their dissatisfaction before they go shouting hurray hurray for something. Oftentimes satisfaction is expressed by silence.

Edited, Fri Dec 10 02:06:24 2004 by Gomek
#3 Dec 10 2004 at 2:02 AM Rating: Decent
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I dont think the japanese player needed to say all that. I'm sure there's plenty of eastern players complaing about tax also...But you dont need to encourage it by complaining. If you dont wanna pay the tax that bad, give a shout and do a one on one transaction or put it in the bazaar.

Why would the east want to push NAs out of the game for good? SE makes the updates not them.
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#4 Dec 10 2004 at 2:03 AM Rating: Good
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Probably get rated down for this, but I agree. We do complain too much. This is supposed to be something we enjoy, so if we don't enjoy it we should just stop playing it and not complain about it till the game is screwed up for those who do enjoy it.
#5 Dec 10 2004 at 2:12 AM Rating: Default
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Big surprise we complain, SE gives us the short end of the stick most of the time. If the shoe were on the other foot he'd be the one ******** about how he pays his fee and the servers are down always on jp prime time, or how americans claim all the nm's because we have a 4-5 second advantage, or how amercans have a one year head start and use it to bully others. Ironically he is whinning about whinning and therefore a hypocrite. Next tme he sends you a tell to ***** say "<blacklist> <you can have this>"
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#6 Dec 10 2004 at 2:14 AM Rating: Good
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Yes, the JP is partially correct. (although ironically, he is complaning about the NA's complaining too much lol).

In America, we are actually encouraged to complain in order to get things changed to our favor. Look at all the lawsuits going on today. People sue for just about anything in America now. Complaining is the most efficient way of changing things in America.

In japan, people rarely complain. They learn to deal with it and live their lives accordingly. Lots of women in Japan rarely report sexual harrassments and women are treated like objects. Unlike America where feminists and activists have complained and fought long enough for women to be treated equal.
#7 Dec 10 2004 at 2:15 AM Rating: Decent
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well is not about getting rated down or up is about all of us we play the same game so all of us should work together dont matter what issue or race is involved

Were humans and of course were going to complaint about stuff but we also should learn how to deal with things, If everything was easy in life they will be no challenge in getting your goals done

I love to party and i love my job White mage!! I party with pretty much anybody since i play AM hours and i try to have as much fun as i can

Maybe one day we will all get along and work together as a Big team!!
#8 Dec 10 2004 at 2:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Complaining is the NA way. Not just in this game. I mean, this is America, not to discount the Euros, but, lets leave you out for now.

America is always about complainin when we dont like somthing. We dont like Campers getting in the way of our RDM afs, so we complain about it, and they change it. Snippers Rings were out of control, so we complained and they changed it. We dont like the changes, well complain about it, and it wil change.

Japan on the other hand, and I speak compleatly from generalized opinion, is less about complaining. Sure, the JP let thier voice be heard, but there not as boisterus as we are. We dont care if we make asses out of our selves in trying to get what we want. They do how ever. There much more of a 'go with the flow and everything will work out fine" mind set, where as America is about ' fix it now'
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#9 Dec 10 2004 at 2:20 AM Rating: Default
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^^^^
thats exactly what i just said lol
#10 Dec 10 2004 at 2:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, we have complained enough about fish bots til SE completly made fishing worthless, any more complaints you guys have ready for next week? Maybe they will make mining as crappy as fishing is now. Maybe all those high gil synthed items will get even more expensive with the tax now. Maybe I wish people would stop complaining to SE about every little thing and maybe SE won't nerf anything else. As far as the whole jp/na thing goes, they complain about us too much. "JP PT ONLY!" You know you've seen it too much lately.
#11 Dec 10 2004 at 2:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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Most japanese players I've played with have been very cool and fun to party with, even when stuck with emotes and letter-tab key dialogue. The Japanese player you met was actually a North American, afterall, North Americans above anything else, like dissing themselves. HAr Har Har.
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#12 Dec 10 2004 at 2:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Sorry but if I dont like an aspect of something, I'm going to speak my mind. As for the people that enjoy it (those with loads of gil already who are just ******** cause now they cant get richer even quicker) how it is, well thats too bad. I know you are trying to rake in another 200k+ by camping coffers in Castle Oztroja, but see I (and other DRKs, BRDs, RDMs, etc) actually need it for a valid reason. So sorry you have to go make your easy money elsewhere. Oh, you cant keep camping VE to rack in another 500k for your horribly overpriced hairpin? Meh, too bad.

If people are really trying to sell astral rings for 500k (over double the cost) then dont buy it. That person will continue to lose gil until they sell it for a somewhat reasonable price (OMGz!). They can deal.
Assuming the person is correct that in Japan women are treated like objects, and the only reason that American women have equal rights is cause they can complain, then by all means please complain and stop being such a wuss.
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#13 Dec 10 2004 at 2:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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Any player who thinks JP don't complain about the game much has obviously never read Shitaraba or 2ch...
#14 Dec 10 2004 at 3:04 AM Rating: Decent
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wow, that jp is such a hypocrite. NA complain too much? HE'S complaining about us complaining! -_-

We're human damnit. When you don't like something you complain. Hell, even animals do it! Ever hear a dog whine when it doesn't get what it wants? Guess what that is.

Perhaps some of us do complain too much.. but nice way for him to generalize the whole NA population. -_-

Jp are great and all.. I know some and they're really great people. But come on, they're not pure and god like. I'm tired of this. They're just like us.. you can't blame an update on one population of the game. -_-
#15 Dec 10 2004 at 3:05 AM Rating: Good
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let me make my statement. and i believe it to be true. atleast from where i see it.
I have went around areas on Alexandder server and did a possible bot count. And i must say that the largest majority of botters IS JP.
A lot of these updates have come along due to botters...
So in my opinion some of the updated made are a good thing in some ways, no matter how you look at it. All bots do is ruin games. Seen it happen really badly in Ragnarok and now moving into Star Wars Galaxies. So i do not think the JP have any right to complain about us. All they ever do is complain about us and put us down. Like we're trash or something...
I see a lot of search comments:
English Party. No Thanks.
JP PParty Olny.
i think it's racism within its self right there.
i invited a JP one time. he joined and went. Oh! NA Party! No Thanks! t(-_-t)
So... you tell me
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#16 Dec 10 2004 at 3:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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*reads thread..


Damn, you lot really complain alot ^^
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#17 Dec 10 2004 at 3:25 AM Rating: Decent
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its "JP" not ***... lemme make that clear.

*** is such a discusting word, much like calling someona *****, ******, or ****.

I am actaully offended by it.

Yes, we complain to much... thats that.

and this new tax rule, is product of our complaint.

fork over the 2009 gil, we made it that way.


later,
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#18 Dec 10 2004 at 3:26 AM Rating: Decent
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its "JP" not ***... lemme make that clear.

*** is such a discusting word, much like calling someona *****, ******, or ****.

I am actaully offended by it.

Yes, we complain to much... thats that.

and this new tax rule, is product of our complaint.

fork over the 2009 gil, we made it that way.


later,
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#19 Dec 10 2004 at 3:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Probally what that JP didnt care to think about, is that there were probally JP players who were complaining just as much as NA players. SE is obviously gonna lean to the JP complaints before ours because the JP player is gonna have more influence on thier stock than NA or Euro players. If more JP are leaving FFXI because of these complaints then ya they're gonna do something bout it.
(all IMO)
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#20 Dec 10 2004 at 3:31 AM Rating: Decent
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*** is such a discusting word, much like calling someona *****, @#%^, or ****.


Disgusting*

What's really disgusting is the literacy of today's americans...
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#21 Dec 10 2004 at 3:35 AM Rating: Decent
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#22 Dec 10 2004 at 3:55 AM Rating: Decent
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I i hate those players who essentially say: "I used to be leet, but i cant handle changes and competition". Yes the game changed, for good or for bad? I dont know....
The only thing i know is that you just have to find other ways to make money. And that's the cool thing about FFXI, not picking up a random guide on how to make money but dealing with a live economy that changes so if you market savvy and know how to jump in on trends you can make decent cash.
Till now every patch opened up new possibilites and made standard cash cows less interesting, i think that's a good way to stop gil farmers. Theyr cashflow would be stopped for them for a while, till new ways to make gil would be found.
Last patch looks like cooking gets more usefull, if you look at the market you can actually make some money with cooking now.

Edited, Fri Dec 10 04:01:36 2004 by Sjans
#23 Dec 10 2004 at 4:02 AM Rating: Default
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Complain = Reform.
American Culture = Big on reform.
Liberals = Very good at complaining.

I'm conservative, and I don't give a damn about much of anything in this game. If my party wants me to have a monster signa and mary's horn, well, they can give me the 7548925749238 gil I'm going to need to buy that stuff. I die? So what, as long as it was fun. If I get killed by a mandragora or bunny, I'm sad. But if Vrtra kills me...well, dam...I just had a good day lol ^_^

JP complain that we complain too much....awesome. I <3 hypocricy
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*** is such a discusting word, much like calling someona *****, @#%^, or ****.


Disgusting*

What's really disgusting is the literacy of today's americans...
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Hey **** you. Literize this beeyatch.


Seriously though. If anyone is going to be the english police here it's gonna be be. Comprende?
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Troll.

Almost had me. Almost. If you don't like the game, please go elsewhere. If you just enjoy irking people, know that I've pretty much ignored everything you said.

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#26 Dec 10 2004 at 4:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey NAs. I m JP.
Dont you know the reputation of NA in this game in Japan?
All Jp seems like to hate NA.
And always complains about JP and NA being in the same servers.
JP thinks most of NA is doing RMT.
Indeed one of my NA friend is buying gils and raising wood works to 99.
And he/she bought one some item for 6 mil. It was 500 k item O.o.
JP indeed complains about NA. Always!
If you think it is a lie you could hear this from JP.
I know many NA but almost all of them are doing RMT or autofishing.
I really tired of them, Why are they doing such stupid things.
I m so tired. Plz stop doing RMT and autofishing and raising items prices.
Reputation of NA and Chinese is getting worse and worse now in Japan. You could see JP forums.
Autofishing in Buburimu east cliff is hot.
There are many autofisher gathering in Bubu hehe.
It is a Critical Bug. You cannot fish active mobs there lol.
Many anon NA are there lol.


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