Your thoughts on latest spell changes?Follow

thanks for the info Deballic. Im still trying to figure all this stuff out myself (for my Shammy)

"The dot's crit when you own the aa (Cant think of the name now) "

Critical Affliction?

I used lucy for my numbers but



TD = Total damage
DPM = Damage per Mana

Swarming death
old = 6ticks 240/tick 350mana 1440TD 40.0DPS 4.11DPM
new = 9ticks 224/tick 357mana 2016TD 37.3DPS 5.64DPM

Immolation of Ro
old = 10ticks 140/tick 320mana 1400TD 23.3DPS 4.37DPM
new = 10ticks 144/tick 295mana 1440TD 24.0DPS 4.88DPM

Winged eath
old = 9ticks 143/tick 350mana 1287TD 23.83DPS 3.67DPM
new = 9ticks 122/tick 229mana 1098TD 20.33DPS 4.79

IF Lucy is correct and my math holds up (feel free to debate either)

After casting all 3
old = 523/tick 1020mana 4127TD 87.13DPS 4.04DPM
new = 490/tick 881mana 4554TD 81.63DPS 5.16DPM no stance
new = 612/tick 881mana 5688TD 102.0DPS 6.45DPM Offensive Stance

All my numbers are not focused at all. But I see a slight DPS (6.73%) decrease for a rather large (27.72%) increase in mana effecncy with no stance

17% DPS increase and 59.65% increase in efficiency with offenseive stance

Heck according to my figures you are gaining 141 mana and 427 damage for free every 60ish sec. 141 mana over 10 ticks is 14 mana per tick.

Obviously our numbers are different. I got mine from Lucy where did yours come from?

I know you were talking Damage per Tick but

old = 6ticks 356/tick 356mana 2136TD 59.33DPS 6.00DPM
new = 9ticks 289/tick 289mana 2601TD 48.16DPS 9.00DPM Normal
new = 9ticks 361/tick 289mana 3249TD 60.16DPS 11.24DPM Offensive Stance

for a 50% increase in mana efficiency you lose 23.19% DPS That is unstanced

With stance added it is almost twice as much damage per mana spent AND a tad more DPS.

Over all looks like improvements to me. Dosent even count decreased cast time making it easier to cast with kiting.

Edited to add stance info

Edited, Fri May 13 17:14:47 2005 by sbs

Immolation of Ro before the change was 95/tick, I would sometimes get up to 110/tick with my coldain bracer.

Winged death was around 143/tick

Swarm death was 245/tick or so.

I use them every day, as my dru (66 now) is my main.

You also have to actually try these things to see their actual damage, as the in game description on the spells is bugged badly, showing sometimes only 50% of the damage in the description.

I as well have a 66 Dru as my main and use these three all the time. Thats why I am 100% sure on the damage they used to do when I cast them. As I said, must have been a bug, although that seems a little weird.

Edit: However if your Immolation of Ro is only doing 95 a tick it would go to validate my point about DoT's being bugged. You may want to check to make sure we are refering to the same spell. Immolation of Ro: Lvl 62 Fire based DoT

Edited, Fri May 13 22:30:55 2005 by jchapin

Pray it's for sale in the bazaar. I turned in roughly 30 parchments before I got it.

Yes, but, if you haven't noticed it yet, take a look at your pet. I'm not sure what lvls this applies to yet. But the 49 pet (now 47 or something) got nurfed big time. From what I can tell, it's hps are down from 2300, to about 1700. I am wondering if there aren't some other changes too, as my pet can't even stand up to a DB mob anymore in Dulak. I could solo there np (and not overly easy I might add). But since patch, I have to cast like crazy to keep pet alive, and on top of it, I have to let pet sit out of fight and kite the mob about every 3 mobs. Yeah, the DoTs I like better, dmg is nicer, cast time is better, lower mana, but it's not worth it for what they did to our pet.