New gay friendly guild!Follow

Where do I sign up? I'm glad to see that someone has actually started this guild, just from a pure socialization aspect. I love my current guild because they are rather strict on interpersonal communications with other players, and make it guild policy to restrict offensive language, off-color jokes, or any harassment. It is a family style guild that has been around for several years that is designed for all age groups. Although the guild has strict policies occasionally a comment or two will slip in, usually from the younger crowd.

I am pleased to say that even outside of the guild (when grouping and an occasional comment is made), usually I just make my feelings known and people are happy enough to change the subject. Sometimes you just wish you never heard the deragoatory comments to being with. Oh well...some things just take time I guess.

For Ralston - I imagine the purpose of the guild is strictly from a social aspect. You enjoy getting together with a group of your friends and playing EQ...right. Hopefully your group of close knit friends share something in common - why else would you be friends? The purpose of the guild is to find people to socialize and hang out with, not to spread a gay rights agenda throughout all of the EQ user community. I would draw a parallel of this guild to the Allakhazam guild on Morden Rasp, where the guild was formed by people who have gotten to know each other from these forums. Friends from the forum got together and decided to start a guild. Part of the fun of any game is the social aspects.

Good luck with the guild, Kumael.

And thanks for smoking out the brain-donors who can't see the difference between:

Being born gay Vs choosing an extreme political view

Immersing yourself in an RPG Vs Trying to live in it

I Role Play sometimes, I shoot the breeze with Guildies, mostly about EQ stuff, but sometimes about RL.
Given the rants from some of our our cerebrally challenged colleagues it's clear their Tolerance Bypass operations were completely successful and reinforce the reason why you are setting up the Guild.

Oh, and Ralston, Congratulations on your time machine. You seem really happy living back in the 1950s

How exactly would you have to endure the rantings and ravings of a socially-biased (or tolerant, you choose) guild?

Do you expect them to lead a Gay Pride march on Crushbone?

Or what about a "PowerLeveling Scholarship" advertising campaign, which would only be open to those newbies that decide to join?

Or, they can just sit in POK and scream "I'm okay with gay!" all day.


Seriously dude, you need to get a reality check. If people really wanted to stir up the hornet's nest, what they wouldn't do is making a simple statement on a message board.

The poster was simply making an announcement, possibly due to a common interest he/she had with other gamers, and was putting the word out.

Right about now, though, you sound like one of those whimpering loudmouths that simply scream bloody murder when they see/read anything that offends them, instead of just living and let live.


You might have a point if a pack of them in wolf-form come and wolfy-hump your dead carcass (or live one /shrug), but until that time comes, chill out.

EJ - Flaming Heterosexual, and proud of it. Woot, straight pride!

Uh, I saw this post and thought "gay" was sarcastic. But, this sucks. I can't BELIEVE so many support this. What the HELL is up with ****** getting in everyone's face and letting them know that they're gay?! Like we give a ****? And why, oh why would you care enough to tell people that you're gay in a VIDEO GAME. Does your insecurity with your decisions make you feel that others HAVE to accept you?! Especially people that you're NEVER going to meet in your life?! The only purpose telling someone in a VIDEO GAME that your gay is to start an argument. And of course I'm right. To make a guild that full of gay people is fine by me, but why would you feel the need to let EVERYONE know that you're gay?! That's what I don't understand. What goes through your head that makes you feel that EVERYONE cares? Hell let's do exactly what you want us to do and make a straight only guild so we can fight and bicker like little kids. That IS the only purpose this serves.. Jackass.

Now this is a horror I hoped to never contemplate!

To those getting all panicky and outraged, grow up.

edit: By the way, I wish you great success with your guild.

Edited, Mon Jul 12 22:12:53 2004 by Yanari

This thread is pretty damn gay.

Tehom, damn you're retarded.

In revieweing all the posts to date, I realized that Ralston and samuelstephens are the only real asshat hatemongers replying to the thread. Samuelstephens is obviously just a child, and so I wouldn't expect him to deal well with this sort of topic, but Ralston seems older and should know better. Some of my friends (who happen to be gay) would probably say that Ralston is just repressed and is just waiting for someone to flip his coin. Just a thought.

Good to see that simple respect for others is so prevalent here.

with a subject like Kumael started (on his/her first ever post mind you) you knew this would turn into this kind of thread.

now frankly i dont care your sexual prefernces but i do agree there is no need to flaunt the fact that you are gay by starting a homosexual guild.



i cant help but feel the same way about this. i dont have to go around flaunting that i am heterosexual. i have homosexual friends and co workers that are professional people, and they are just people who are gay. they have no desire to go around wearing rainbows and screaming "Hey look at me im a homosexual." people are poeple no matter what they choose for sexual preference, politics, or religion. i think there is no place for this in this game. we get enough in real life about how ignorant people are when it comes to this matter.

i see it like when i was bartending, there was no talking of religion or politics in the bar, now we have to add another one to this, no talk of sexual preferences either. it never ends good.

if you are happy with yourself no matter what you choose to do, great.


Kumael wrote:


im not sure what revolution you are trying to start. but this isnt the place to flaunt your homosexuality.



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Edited, Tue Jul 13 10:29:21 2004 by Miccah

I love it when people try to use big words to make it sound like they know what they're talking about. Listen to this...

"Most people that are uncomfortable around others with alternative lifestyles are very defensive and will fight to the last breath to justify thier own insecurities."

LOLROFLMAO! Yea, that's it! I'm insecure with my lifestyle (meaning that I too want to become gay), so I am gonna put down others! Yea! Right on! LOL! .... come on Jessettee, you can do better then that.

"Let it die it's not worth the breath you can't change narrow minds. "

Lol, I'll refer you back to your own quote just one line above that one.

"We also have the right to interact as we see fit."

Now don't enter flame wars if you suck at them.

Yes...18 is still a kid. You have so much in life yet to experience, college being just one example. Ahhhh to once again be back in the blissful world of academia far removed from the working world. Heck I would give my right arm just to have a 3 month vacation every summer, instead of being cooped up in this dark alcove surrounded by computers all day.

I will openly admit that putting "Come be a part of the revolution" was not the most intelligent thing to put at the end of the posting. This probably should have best been left out.

The fact of the matter is the guild was formed primarily as a social aspect, and to allow LGBT EQ players to group without harassment. I don't like it when I'm grouped with people outside of the guild and they spend a great deal of time flirting with the skimpily dressed female characters. I like it even less when the situation degrades down to inter-character gyrations, and the participants expect everyone in the group to stand up and applaud. What you find funny I might find extremely offensive. When the group members learn that in real life I'm gay and didn't appreciate the comments (particularly when they are derogatory to women in general), then the tide turns to outlandish statements as we have seen in this forum thread. Simply put...I'm sick of it.

Like it or not one of the most valuable skills learned in a MMPORG is learning how to interact with people, often located all across the globe with different ideas, values, and beliefs. It is understood that this is a game and is being played for personal enjoyment, and there are times when we should be allowed to “let loose” and enjoy ourselves. We have to be careful that the time, circumstances, and audience are appropriate for these moments. One of the basic frustrations I’ve encountered is people who don’t understand the time and audience, and then wind up greatly offending people in the process.

No but if someone heard it was a gay guild and was only 12 years old like some people posting in this thread are then I think thats whats going to happen...

ok and because i am in a majority, if this were a post about starting a heterosexual guild, then what would your response be to this? im sure i would hear the flames.



im not sure why having a guild centered around sexual orientation is necessary in this game other than to do what it is doing right now. igniting the ignorance of people.

Like i said


if you feel you need to let everyone know about your homosexuality, then i think there are different ways you can go about this. i have not heard anyone refer to someones sexual preferences in game, this is going to start that fire.




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Edited, Tue Jul 13 11:55:52 2004 by Miccah